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disciple

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PostPosted: Sat 23 May 2009, 04:49    Post_subject:  Audacious 2.0.1 released
Sub_title: but it is even more bug-ridden than before
 

Audacious 2.0.1 has been released. Unfortunately it is still so bug-ridden that I'm not going to package it Sad
Only one bug I encountered in 1.5.1 is fixed and I've already seen a couple of new ones... and the NEWS says there are likely to be LOTS of new bugs Rolling Eyes

If you want a decent audio player use xmms or pmusic or gnomemplayer...

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PostPosted: Mon 01 Jun 2009, 19:44    Post_subject:  

I have noticed that you have not filed any bugs against audacious 2.x. Infact, I have noticed that no puppy users have filed any bugs. Bugs can be filed at http://jira.atheme.org/ .

Also, I think you owe us an apology for your commentary against our projects. It's literally the least you could do.

I think you should stop packaging Audacious altogether, and let someone who is committed to working with upstream take over.

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PostPosted: Mon 01 Jun 2009, 22:21    Post_subject:  

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Also, I think you owe us an apology for your commentary against our projects. It's literally the least you could do.

Yes, sorry. I didn't mean so much to criticise, rather to draw attention to the fact that a new version is out, and warn people not to expect it to be really bug-free (as the NEWS also does).

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I have noticed that you have not filed any bugs against audacious 2.x

IIRC the new ones I saw had already been filed by other people.
The old ones I'm not sure about, but they are all well known and in the past I've got patches for them from distributions such as Debian, so I kind of assumed (maybe incorrectly) that they would be known about upstream. I guess I should go through and check that they are filed.

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I think you should stop packaging Audacious altogether, and let someone who is committed to working with upstream take over.

Just FYI I've never packaged Audacious, but I was considering it. I'm actually a little surprised no one else has packaged it for Puppy yet.

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PostPosted: Tue 02 Jun 2009, 01:59    Post_subject:  

disciple wrote:
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Also, I think you owe us an apology for your commentary against our projects. It's literally the least you could do.

Yes, sorry. I didn't mean so much to criticise, rather to draw attention to the fact that a new version is out, and warn people not to expect it to be really bug-free (as the NEWS also does).


Ok.

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I have noticed that you have not filed any bugs against audacious 2.x

IIRC the new ones I saw had already been filed by other people.
The old ones I'm not sure about, but they are all well known and in the past I've got patches for them from distributions such as Debian, so I kind of assumed (maybe incorrectly) that they would be known about upstream. I guess I should go through and check that they are filed.


Audacious 2.x is considerably better than 1.5 ever was. 2.1 which is due out by the end of June should resolve any regressions that weren't intentional.

Saying that "xmms is better" or whatever isn't even factual. Audacious 2.0.1 has less bugs than 1.5, and Audacious generally has less bugs than XMMS. The warning in NEWS is due to a fundamental rewrite effort to introduce needed sanity into the remaining parts of the code which were largely untouched since XMMS times, and it warns that there MAY be bugs. There MAY be bugs in Audacious 1.5 too, but the amount of work done was much less invasive, so we didn't feel that a warning was necessary.
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PostPosted: Tue 02 Jun 2009, 02:21    Post_subject:  

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Saying that "xmms is better" or whatever isn't even factual.

It is a matter of opinion whether xmms is better or not, but I've never noticed a bug in xmms, whereas I've noticed maybe a dozen in Audacious (some of them quite serious, like the one where all the error messages rapidly fill up your hard drive. Is there a way to restrict the size of the error log?). So even if xmms has more bugs (xmms has been around so long I would have expected them to be ironed out by now), they seem to be obscure.

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PostPosted: Sat 13 Jun 2009, 12:37    Post_subject:  

wow disciple who would know they would find this thread out of thousands on here and billions in the world, They must have some sort of google bot working for them, well they sure got you good, LOL LOL man this was a funny thread to read, first thing that came to mind, " Oh Crap the Audacious Cops are here,run disciple, run" lol

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PostPosted: Sat 13 Jun 2009, 14:47    Post_subject:  

Yes, And while you at it nenolod , why not package it up for us as a .sfs or .pet?
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PostPosted: Sat 13 Jun 2009, 15:10    Post_subject:  

runtt21 wrote:
Yes, And while you at it nenolod , why not package it up for us as a .sfs or .pet?


LOL thats a good one Cool glad to see the fellow support Smile
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PostPosted: Sat 13 Jun 2009, 18:22    Post_subject:  

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We stick up for our own here

I'd really rather you didn't.
Guys, don't be ridiculous. His point was that we should be filing bugs instead of just criticising. That's just what I intend to do when I have the time to wade through all and see if there are any that haven't already been filed. What about you?

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wow disciple who would know they would find this thread out of thousands on here and billions in the world,

It's almost as impressive as amigo turning up anywhere a GTK1.2 app is mentioned, or the mtPaint guy for that matter Smile

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PostPosted: Fri 19 Jun 2009, 05:11    Post_subject:  

ttuuxxx wrote:
but really xmms was and is the best audioplayer for linux, I do not see any major improvements, the only thing I see is less ported plugins, larger file size and more bugs.

I completely agree with you
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