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James C · Joined: 26 Mar 2009 Posts: 6717 Location: Kentucky

Gave both versions a quick spin on a P3 733 mhz, 256mb ram with 1gb swap. Boot up and shut down was fine with both.

Had the muted sound deal on both versions, no problem getting it going though.All the basics seem to work fine.

01micko · Joined: 11 Oct 2008 Posts: 8670 Location: qld

tempestuous · Joined: 10 Jun 2005 Posts: 5468 Location: Australia

tempestuous · Joined: 10 Jun 2005 Posts: 5468 Location: Australia

Snappy or not?
I posted a while ago in ttuuxxx's thread about the general idea of upgrading Puppy 2.x, and how I was concerned that if you upgrade all its libraries it would cease to be Puppy2.

218-alpha seems not as snappy of my Pentium2-350 as the original Puppy 2.12-2.16 series, but I might just be imagining this. If I still had my old Pentium1 laptop the differences would be clearer.

Raffy, or 01micko, or anyone else, what are your opinions about Puppy 2.12-2.16 vs Puppy218 vs ttuuxxx's 214X2?

OlddogNewtricks · Joined: 07 Jun 2009 Posts: 124 Location: U.K.

tempestuous wrote

what are your opinions about Puppy 2.12-2.16 vs Puppy218 vs ttuuxxx's 214X2?

I feel ttuuxxx's 214X2 is on a par with older pups, & feels perkier than 2.18, It still has features like the seperate ZDRV sfs file which can be dumped once you've set up for your machine & a remastering script that allows you to produce a new pup_xxx.sfs easily. (dougal's work here I believe). I've always frugall installed, so a simple remaster & replacement of the pup_xxx.sfs file is what I love about puppy. I' ve never used a pup save file so I can tinker away knowing a reboot (which literally takes seconds with puppy) brings everything back the way it was. A superb linux learning tool.
My old (3 years!) computer has a 2.5 ghz cpu & 256 ram which I could easily upgrade to 1-2 gb but why should I, that's the microsoft way.
Keep It Small & Simple

Well done Barry & everybody else involved in this tiny marvel.

phew!! thats my 10 pence worth.

Keef · Joined: 20 Dec 2007 Posts: 890 Location: Staffordshire

Compaq Armada 3500
PII 300mhz
320mb RAM
2gb CF card in IDE adapter (SanDisk Extreme III - 20MB/s)
No CD, HD or floppy.

Manual frugal install (from pup2-218.iso), booting from GRUB.

Runs quite well - 214X seems a little faster (possibly the best I've tried on this setup), but has been less stable and I've had problems with save files.

Wifi connection works (Netgear WG111T usb) via ndiswrapper. Network Wizard told me it was unable to establish a WPA connection, but I refused to believe it, and running Auto dhcpcd does the trick.
Won't detect a CF card in a PCMCIA adapter (but neither will 214R or 214X and a few others.)
JWM configuration manager: selecting 'apply GTK theme to JWM' results in exiting X. Typing xwin doesn't help, neither does running xorgwizard, so cannot get back to the desktop. Deleting .jwmrc did get me back, but without a taskbar or menus. Not sure what to do next so had to reboot and start again with new savefile.

mawebb88 · Joined: 13 Jul 2008 Posts: 246 Location: France nr Lyon

Hi Barry

Re my comment on your blog. I tried as you said:
# modinfo rt2860sta
# lsmod
# modprobe rt2860sta

Still no joy. See screen shot attached.
Rgds Mike

Béèm

I don't get a wireless device on my Medion MD8818
I should have the rt73usb driver loaded, but it's not there.

jrb · Posted: Thu 11 Jun 2009, 22:33 Post subject:

Nice package, Older Xorg definitely works better on my Shuttle P4 2.4mhz.

Issues noted so far:
Have to open console and type "fixmenus" and then restart jwm to get menu entries for .pets

Pnethood finds the other computers on my network but doesn't detect the shared folders. Works fine in Puppy412.

Also have gotten this type of message several times trying to run various .pets from the right click menu:

jrb · Posted: Thu 11 Jun 2009, 23:08 Post subject:

Puppy package manager just got confused. It failed to register the last .pet I installed, even though its there in the filesystem, And it has two of the .pets I installed and then uninstalled listed. 7 .pets listed correctly, one missing, two listed incorrectly. I have my pup_save backed up so I'll start over with it.

01micko · Joined: 11 Oct 2008 Posts: 8670 Location: qld

mawebb88 · Joined: 13 Jul 2008 Posts: 246 Location: France nr Lyon

Installed the pup2-218.iso as frugal:

My Grub menu.lst is:

ttuuxxx · Posted: Sun 14 Jun 2009, 01:52 Post subject:

Hi i'm interested In 2.18, actually I wouldn't mind making a few releases, but I do have a couple of questions, both version of 2.18 take 700Mb extra compared to 2.14.1X/R releases, my free memory applet says 1.6GB free, where as 2.14.1X it would say 2.3GB free after boot, same with 4 series etc.
When I boot up, Xorg can not detect my screen resolution, Usually from series 3 + it does no problem, I have to use the "Generic" drivers to use Xorg.
Barry dropped gtk1 and tcl and saved around 2MB compressed, but the iso grew 6MB to 99MB, when 2.17.1 was like 93MB, So where did the 8MB go? Is it just due to the newer applications, Sure 2.14.1X grew also about the same, but I added extra bins and libs etc. The reason why I asked is because 8MB is a lot to play with, but when get a 99MB iso and you try to work with it and keep it under 100MB magic number, well it makes it real difficult, plus it was for extra kernel modules so 2 series would be on par with 4 series, then I shouldn't have to use the "Generic" drivers, or maybe some sort xorg wizard update could be made, with the generic drivers in a tickbox on the screen size page, Basically tick "generic drivers" and select the screen size. it would save 2 screen test, about 3 minutes of messing around, plus its a bit complicated for first time users, also on my other tv PC, I always use the Generic drivers because it works with tv-out s-video on my video card.

ttuuxxx

Joe J · Joined: 13 May 2009 Posts: 7 Location: New Jersey, USA

Picpuz displays an error message when started. I fixed it by changing lines 33 and 34 of picpuz.cpp as follows and compiling:

ecomoney · Posted: Tue 16 Jun 2009, 23:24 Post subject:

Rcrsn51 has written some excellent install scripts that should work from the command line (and also incedently make it very easy to install puppy linux to a hard drive on a dedicated machine)

Download
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?mode=attach&id=19138

Documentation
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=42660
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=42876