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Make X apps speak text too! fokSyf Eye R (Puppy and Ubuntu)
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mcewanw

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PostPosted: Sat 30 May 2009, 21:33    Post subject: fokSyf Eye R future  

I haven't been involved with foksy work for a long time, but I'm working behind the scenes on it again now.

I am currently slowly building a version for Tiny Core linux; have uploaded espeak to their repos, have a TC extension of yasr under testing, and today managed to compile speech-dispatcher for that system as well.

However, I'm not forgetting Puppy. I now have Puppy 4.2.1 with devx as well and have checked that speech-dispatcher compiles okay on it (which it does). I imagine the fokSyf Eye R version I produced (with patch) for Puppy Dingo (4.00) might work with Puppy 4.2.1 but I'm planning to produce a new version with updated programs and I'll try out some of the commandline apps Trobin used with his Speech Pup too and consider creating dotpets of some of these apps for incorporation into foksy.

I'm planning to change the fosky format though; separate dotpets rather than one big dotpet. I may also create an sfs version of it, since that should be quite trivial to arrange. Will be a few weeks till I do all this though; I'm busy with home matters right now - I will soon upload yasr and speech-dispatcher for TC and develop the Puppy version of foksy at the same time I do the one for TC - so more choice for the visually impaired and anyone else who wants speech accessibility (with or without X apps).

Note that TC now has a microcore option, which doesn't load X if you don't want it. Booting to the commandline in Puppy, on the other hand, tends to require boot script hacks/changes, which makes it more difficult to bolt such accessibility options onto official puppy's (Trobin, for example, needed to make a remaster, Speech Pup, in order to allow booting straight to the commandline). The recent official puppy has also increased the use of embedded bling.

Woof system seems promising. Perhaps there will be a non-X option? Apparently "bling" will be an option only with woof, which is great since a lot of bling and desktop clutter generally tends to be discriminatory and difficult for screen readers to handle, IMO, unless it is particularly designed to increase accessibility. I believe that Robert Shingledecker suffers from poor vision, which might be one reason why TC lends itself to this sort of application so readily.
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Aitch


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PostPosted: Sun 31 May 2009, 08:42    Post subject:  

Hi mcewanw

Been following your work - good stuff

Would this little gem interest you at all?

http://www.plop.at/en/humanpad.html

not quite the same focus, but I don't know what connections to 'disabled people' sites you have?

[note: they also have a touchscreen driver/again, different focus, but useful enough...]

found it whilst following up on use of plop as a boot manager, for hard to boot pc's

look forward to turning on a pc, which says 'Hello Aitch, what do you want to do, today??'

Are we that far away??

Aitch Smile
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PostPosted: Mon 23 Nov 2009, 01:23    Post subject: foksyfeyer 1.0.0-1 works fine on Puppy 4.3.1
Subject description: Screen Reader speech environment using yasr plus espeak etc
 


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technosaurus


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PostPosted: Mon 23 Nov 2009, 02:08    Post subject:  

If you just want something lite, I made a pet that will speak the text in your clipboard (using a hot key) or whatever text you pass to it - using a web based tool... GUI in the planning stages
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=49249
Code:
#!/bin/sh
MYWORD=""
if [ ! $1 ];then
MYWORD=`xclip -o`
if [ ! $MYWORD ];then
Xdialog --title "Enter the text you want to hear" --editbox " " 6 99
MYWORD=$?
fi
else
MYWORD=$@
fi
seamonkey -remote "openurl(http://www.cstr.ed.ac.uk/cgi-bin/cstr/festivalspeak.cgi?voice=nina&UserText=$MYWORD,NEW-TAB)"

for best results set seamonkey to use /usr/bin/aplay to play wav files when it comes up

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mcewanw

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PostPosted: Mon 23 Nov 2009, 16:23    Post subject: espeak works well with your Alt-l hotkey arrangement  

technosaurus wrote:
If you just want something lite, I made a pet that will speak the text in your clipboard (using a hot key) or whatever text you pass to it - using a web based tool... GUI in the planning stages


Well there is light and there is light! :-) Foksyfeyer doesn't need to be online and run seamonkey to read text from the clipboard and it does a lot more than that... And the only "heavy" part of foksy is the 3.5 MB download and storage space on disk for it; being commandline apps the memory and general resource usage is generally tiny (even espeak doesn't consume a lot of resources on my Pent III 450MHz 256MB RAM laptop)..

However, I do like your popup (Alt-l) idea for a simple clipboard reader solution. Pity that the Festival voice synthesis demo site forbids the technique you used of accessing it directly via cgi, especially since the synthesis quality from there is so good (not surprisingly it is good though - they use a synthesised voice that would be over 100 MBytes to download and use locally!)

Rather than giving up on your great idea because of the restrictions on accessing the Festival facility, you could maybe use a different non-restricting site for the synthesis, or simply use espeak alone in conjunction with your idea, as I've described on your main thread concerning gaiksaurus/thesaurus/voice synthesis hotkey popup. I'd love to see your planned GUI come to fruition:

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=364943#364943

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PostPosted: Wed 17 Aug 2011, 05:26    Post subject: fokSyf Eye R version 1.0.0-1 downloadable on the web again
Subject description: Not updated, but may still be useful
 

Trobin has found a use for this:

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=553340#553340

so I thought I'd put the files back on the web somewhere...

Last Stable Version: 1.0.0-1

Please uninstall any old version before installing the latest,
and then run foksy setup and reboot as usual.
[Remember the space between foksy and setup].
Please read installREADME.txt in detail before installing.

You can find the last versions of fokSyf Eye R for both Puppy Linux and the Ubuntu-family Linux distributions via:

http://wiakapps.daugdog.com/wb010000.html

Refer to first post in this thread for installation details etc...

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PostPosted: Wed 17 Aug 2011, 19:14    Post subject:  

I did compile speak from the speak package down to a <400kb pet. It needs an external audio player to play (aplay works) I even hacked a script that will play in real time by using stdout as the output and piping it through aplay....best of all there are no wierd dependencies

If anyone's interested, let me know.

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PostPosted: Wed 17 Aug 2011, 23:22    Post subject:  

technosaurus wrote:
I did compile speak from the speak package down to a <400kb pet. It needs an external audio player to play (aplay works) I even hacked a script that will play in real time by using stdout as the output and piping it through aplay....best of all there are no wierd dependencies

If anyone's interested, let me know.


I've not used that one, but it if you upload it to the forum somewhere I would like to give it a run.

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PostPosted: Thu 18 Aug 2011, 05:55    Post subject:  

here is speak along with a few scripts
speak-1.45.05-i486.pet
Description  cut down from espeak
pet

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