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What is the best Puppy Version ever, LOL
2.14x
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2.14x
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2.14x
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Other: 2.14x only
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clarf


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PostPosted: Thu 28 May 2009, 23:41    Post subject:  

ttuuxxx wrote:
clarf wrote:

Beautiful work ttuuxxx... I love 2.xx Puppy series.

Are you going to add some fixes to this Puppy 2.14X Reloaded?. Are you going to post a list with the apps updated?.

Well if you find some fixes, I'll add them Smile
When I'm totally finished I'll list the apps, since its still a bit on-going, Smile I'll hold off a bit.
below is a snapsht of most of the packages I compiled, other than blinky, and maybe a couple of others.
ttuuxxx


Great work tuuxxx, Did you have to update or patch some libraries to compile those new versions?.

About new fixes, updating to new versions already fix some specific applications problems. For that reason it make sense to have a fixes list on well know Puppy 2.1x problems. Moreover using updated programs enhance Puppy, for example Pmount from 2.17 is faster in that version than early Puppys.

Fora additional fixes I remember right now some for 2.16 and 2.17 series. Please take a look on:

-browser bug, and easy fix by miriam (http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=20908). Don´t know if necessary with latest versions Question .

-Updated Wallpaper Application by MU (http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=21017). Don´t know if you already updated this one Question .

If I could remember other fixes I´ll post them later.

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ttuuxxx


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PostPosted: Fri 29 May 2009, 00:22    Post subject:  

clarf wrote:


Great work tuuxxx, Do you had to update or patch some libraries to compile those new versions?.

yes the main applications that was were stopping a lot of updates were, gtk2,pango,cairo,,glib. They've been all updated, So things like gimp,seamonkey can be compiled.
I'm still updating the devx and will be releasing it maybe today.
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tubby

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PostPosted: Fri 29 May 2009, 05:05    Post subject: more bugs  

Hi ttuuxxx, a couple of bugs that are beyond my very limited knowledge, hopefully someone knows the answers already from original releases.
Firstly xerrs log show a couple of the problems namely jwm warnings, these seem to be pointing to a small white square in the bottom right hand coner of the screen obscured by the task bar. also fontconfig error ' cannot load default config file '.
When i plug a usb memory stick in no icon appears on the desktop, using usbview shows the memory stick but when i looked at /proc the computer locked showing /proc scanning. Sad
I am using a usb wifi stick so i know the ports are functioning, i have tried the memory stick with and without the wifi stick but the same thing happens.
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PostPosted: Fri 29 May 2009, 10:32    Post subject: Re: more bugs  

tubby wrote:
Hi ttuuxxx, a couple of bugs that are beyond my very limited knowledge, hopefully someone knows the answers already from original releases.
Firstly xerrs log show a couple of the problems namely jwm warnings, these seem to be pointing to a small white square in the bottom right hand coner of the screen obscured by the task bar. also fontconfig error ' cannot load default config file '.
When i plug a usb memory stick in no icon appears on the desktop, using usbview shows the memory stick but when i looked at /proc the computer locked showing /proc scanning. Sad
I am using a usb wifi stick so i know the ports are functioning, i have tried the memory stick with and without the wifi stick but the same thing happens.


Hi thanks for that, I fixed the fontconfig, and the jwm"corners"warning, the square-box is a known bug, to all puppies, Below is some info to what cause it, a clipboard.
I fixed the missing absvolume icons.
Your usb stick is a strange one, the usb sticks I use work perfect, I tried 4 different kinds/makes. Can you find a error report?
Thanks for your help also.
ttuuxxx

#0.9.8 sync selection-buffer and clipboard. only useful for older apps
#such as rxvt that use the selection-buffer...
[ -f /usr/bin/autocutsel ] && /usr/bin/autocutsel &
#...disadvantage of this is it creates a little square bottom-right of screen.

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PostPosted: Fri 29 May 2009, 14:26    Post subject: usb stick  

Thanks for replying with your fixes, as to my usb problem i can not find any error messages that look like they point to usb. Usb view shows it correctly as a cruzer with all the attributes.
Have you tried to open the /proc/bus/usb/devices folder?, as i do not have an icon on the dektop for usb when i plug one in i am wondering if something may be broken.
Do you think that as my desktop icon for the partition i am running this distro on has vanished, ( it went walkabout after 2 or 3 boots ) has a bearing on my problem? Also if i look into Mnt it shows as a folder not a drive.?.
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PostPosted: Sat 30 May 2009, 15:06    Post subject: Frugal 214x HD install  

vg1 wrote:
mawebb88.


Edit: in your case it should read:

Code:
title Puppy214X
rootnoverify (hd0,1)/puppy214X
kernel /vmlinuz root=/dev/ram0 PMEDIA=satahd PDEV1=sda2 PUPMODE=12 SFSFILE=ntfs,sda2,/puppy214X/pup_214R.sfs ZDRV=ntfs,sda2,/puppy214X/zdrv_214R.sfs PUPSAVE=ntfs,sda2,/puppy214X/pup_save.2fs
# pfix=fsck DEV1FS=ntfs
initrd /initrd.gz


Make sure that you have a 'satahd' flag on sda2, which you probably do already. P214R has a problem when booting a frugal install the first time without a pup_save. Either boot from cd first & create a pup_save on exit, or borrow a copy of an existing pup_save & try with that. It probably won't work correctly and you will later discard it, but if you do succeed to boot then with this save_file file in the appropriate dir [and named pup_save.2fs so it is pointed to correctly in the above entry] you should be able to boot with pfix=ram and create a proper pup_save on exit.

Once you get it going you can add DEV1FS=ntfs to the kernel line to gain a sec or two at boot.

Does that help?

vg


Thanks vg for your suggestions. Tried but still not successful. Gets further but ends up with kernel panic. Tried taking out one parameter at a time but no joy and lost myself what I had or had not tried. I don't think my drive is sata BTW.

BTW I have 214R working fine from a USB stick on the same PC. I think I just try 214X from the same stick for my next move. Will report back if I have any further news.
Rgds Mike
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PostPosted: Sun 31 May 2009, 00:25    Post subject:  

G'day,
Just found this Project - all I can say is thank you to all the developers working on this especially ttuuxxx.... Puppy Series 2 certainly breathes new life into old computers.
I can test and compile programmes but system stuff is beyond me - in the next few days will start a thorough testing of the updates.
Is there going to be a central repository for the updated Puppy series 2 programmes or are you going to take Barry's suggestion and place them in Ibiblio?

Maybe kindly ask Caneri if he would be willing to start a new Folder Repository for New and Updated programmes - Series 2. In this way anything I make workable for series 2 will have a home.

Cheers
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PostPosted: Sun 31 May 2009, 05:19    Post subject:  

Mike,

sorry to hear you still get kernel panic.If you think your drive is not sata then try PMEDIA=idehd and replace each instance of sda by hda. Ensure you have 'idehd' on hda1.

Whatever the problem you will still need a pup_save file. Try using a copy of your working 214R pup_save. Place it in the appropriate folder & name accordingly. If all names & grub entries agree then it could work. If it boots but does not work correctly you at least know that the menu.lst entries are ok. But you still need a working pup_save and the method described in my earlier post will not work.

To create a new empty pup_save boot into your p412 in rox, navigate to /hda2/puppy214x and open a 'terminal here' [right click > window > terminal here ' or just " ' "] then:
Code:
dd if=/dev/zero of=pup_save.2fs bs=1M count=32

to make a 32MB pup_save.2fs, then:
Code:
mke2fs pup_save.2fs

to turn it into an ext2 file system. Alternatively you can use any pup_save file, click to mount & open in rox [ie in p412], delete all inside it, click again to close, and you have an empty pup_save file.

Now boot with this empty pup_save file in /hda2/puppy214x and a correct PUPSAVE parameter as in the previous post, and your p214X should boot as with pfix=ram. It will ask you a few question as on first boot & will populate the pup_save. On 2nd boot it should work as normally with a new pup_save.
I went through this precise sequence and it worked for me. I now have a frugal install with a new pup_save and all works fine.

Good luck.

vg
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PostPosted: Sun 31 May 2009, 12:27    Post subject:  

legendofthor wrote:
G'day,
Just found this Project - all I can say is thank you to all the developers working on this especially ttuuxxx.... Puppy Series 2 certainly breathes new life into old computers.
I can test and compile programmes but system stuff is beyond me - in the next few days will start a thorough testing of the updates.
Is there going to be a central repository for the updated Puppy series 2 programmes or are you going to take Barry's suggestion and place them in Ibiblio?

Maybe kindly ask Caneri if he would be willing to start a new Folder Repository for New and Updated programmes - Series 2. In this way anything I make workable for series 2 will have a home.

Cheers
Martin


To tell you the truth I don't know, each package I compile can be split into 2-3 packages. usually the main program and the dev files and sometimes the locales. Now time that by 50 or so packages and your talking about a lot of extra work, really 95% of the packages are included in the the actual Os and Devx. Those packages would only be good if you want to do a unleashed and even then there is no unleashed for 2.14.1r, heck we can't even get the recompiled kernel for it, and the regular default 2.14 kernel without the extra modules is really not a good general kernel, like I said all the earlier 2.02-2.14 don't work on sata dvd players or newer videocards and xvesa is 10fps, I wouldn't be doing this if it wasn't for the updated modules in 2.14.1r. If Barry was to recompile the kernel with extra modules like 2.14.1R has then I would think about doing all that extra work. Actually I probably would start from scratch again. This time with a proper xdg puppy menu and a barebones version.

as for the a new repo etc, thats for whoever wants to continue this after I'm done, maybe John from teenpup since he has proven that he likes this series. I'm more for Dpup and think that Dpup will be a better choice for older pc's when I'm finished with it.

I've been working of the devx, and fixing a small few issues it had. Also the xfburn package I made for 4 series didn't work because of the older glibc, So I recompiled the backend of xfburn, below are 2 packages, could some people please install both packages and test xfburn and see if it runs well ?
This is the first time its been ported to 2 series, just remember it comes with its own burning engine, so if you had issues with other burners then try this one. Since its the latest burning backend.
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PostPosted: Mon 01 Jun 2009, 07:06    Post subject:  

Hi Guys just made another version up and I was going to release it, but first I wanted to test it, and found a couple of small issues, So i'll fix them then release it in about another 2 hrs or so, does anyone want Pburn included, Most of the backend is already included for the other burning applications, it will add about 188kb compressed. Well let me know.
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PostPosted: Mon 01 Jun 2009, 11:21    Post subject:  

ttuuxxx wrote:
Hi Guys just made another version up and I was going to release it, but first I wanted to test it, and found a couple of small issues, So i'll fix them then release it in about another 2 hrs or so, does anyone want Pburn included, Most of the backend is already included for the other burning applications, it will add about 188kb compressed. Well let me know.
ttuuxxx


Thanks ttuuxxx, you are quite fast...

I´ll like to see icewm updated for 2 series, I tried to compile 1.3.3 version once for Puppy 4.1.2 and I couldn´t (didn´t tried to compile it for 2 series yet). Had you tried it ttuuxxx?.

I don´t use Pburn right now, but 188kb seems a very small size Wink .
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PostPosted: Mon 01 Jun 2009, 13:45    Post subject:  

clarf wrote:
ttuuxxx wrote:
Hi Guys just made another version up and I was going to release it, but first I wanted to test it, and found a couple of small issues, So i'll fix them then release it in about another 2 hrs or so, does anyone want Pburn included, Most of the backend is already included for the other burning applications, it will add about 188kb compressed. Well let me know.
ttuuxxx


Thanks ttuuxxx, you are quite fast...

I´ll like to see icewm updated for 2 series, I tried to compile 1.3.3 version once for Puppy 4.1.2 and I couldn´t (didn´t tried to compile it for 2 series yet). Had you tried it ttuuxxx?.

I don´t use Pburn right now, but 188kb seems a very small size Wink .


ok a bit late for this release, but I'll try to compile icewm and include pburn next release Smile
I did manage to compile the latest icewm on upup, Due to the fact that we have a older glibC on this 2 series, it makes flash buggy on some sites, I think flashblock will be in the next release also, youtube works fine even in fullscreen, but sourceforge when your trying to download crashes the browser, grrrrrrrr like they need flash anyways, I narrowed it down to a utf8/flash issue.
I'll have to look into it, or just use flashblock which is usually best anyways, makes sites load quicker and less cpu/memory usage.
ttuuxxx

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PostPosted: Mon 01 Jun 2009, 13:58    Post subject:  

clarf wrote:

Thanks ttuuxxx, you are quite fast...

I´ll like to see icewm updated for 2 series, I tried to compile 1.3.3 version once for Puppy 4.1.2 and I couldn´t (didn´t tried to compile it for 2 series yet). Had you tried it ttuuxxx?.

I don´t use Pburn right now, but 188kb seems a very small size Wink .


Well I just tried to compile Icewm and it compiled just fine Smile
So that can be a extra after Smile
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PostPosted: Mon 01 Jun 2009, 14:05    Post subject:  

Here's the latest stable Icewm, I haven't added or modified it, So its really plain-Jane looking and no freememory applet or blinky. That will happen much later Smile lol
also included a Locales/nls package
ttuuxxx

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PostPosted: Mon 01 Jun 2009, 14:10    Post subject:  

Here's the next release guys, lots of updates and bugs fixed Smile
enjoy Smile latest software like Geany, leaf pad, osmo,gftp, mtpaint, 5ball,(older flash) etc Removed some text from the connection wizard that said "coming soon" lol like how?? and made a link on it to wireless drivers, and added icons. etc, added a excellent gtk2 theme that tronkel used in 302ce Smile Thanks tronkel Wink
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Ps the first release I installed gnutls but it was kind of big, so I removed it and replaced it with the latest Openssl, and then dillo was dead due to the fact it links against the full path, so then I made a couple of system links and dillo was up and running again. I could of recompiled dillo but what else could of been broken, the safest way way just to make a few links.
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