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QT4 desktop wm, filemanager, browser+flash, torrent, more...
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technosaurus


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PostPosted: Tue 19 May 2009, 01:06    Post subject:  QT4 desktop wm, filemanager, browser+flash, torrent, more...
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I was impressed with the speed of the latest opera builds with qt4.5 so I went in search of a QT (only QT no kde libs) window manager and this was what I got.

here are the downloads

All QT4 libs are packaged separately here:
http://puppylinux.asia/members/T/QT-4.5.2/ puppy:linux for user:password

and finally Antico 0.2 (requires libQt{Core,DBus,Xml,Gui})
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?mode=attach&id=18434
exit to prompt and
Code:
startx antico


known issues:
some menu entries get lost - similar to lxde and other wm in various puplets - this is AFAIK due to non-standard menu entries
I had issues with getting folders on the desktop - programs went fine however

here is a stock shot
screenshot
qtcmd-0.6.5-i486.pet
Description  This is QT Commander - file manager (5AUG2009 development build)
pet

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Filename  qtcmd-0.6.5-i486.pet 
Filesize  867.05 KB 
Downloaded  531 Time(s) 
antico-0.2.1.pet
Description  latest version and end of development unless ...?
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Filename  antico-0.2.1.pet 
Filesize  354.77 KB 
Downloaded  510 Time(s) 
dbus-1.2.14-i486.pet
Description  This is the dbus I compiled against - you may need it too
pet

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Filename  dbus-1.2.14-i486.pet 
Filesize  291 KB 
Downloaded  539 Time(s) 

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PostPosted: Tue 19 May 2009, 02:35    Post subject:  

Do you have a good QT filer to go with it?
Why do you particularly want a QT wm?
To get rid of GTK we would need at least a word processor, spreadsheets, drawing program(s) and CD/DVD burner, but it seems to me that there aren't good QT-only options for some of these things - they tend to require KDE Sad

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PostPosted: Tue 19 May 2009, 12:06    Post subject:  

Variety is the spice of life, besides I like the speed, flexibility and portability of QT - I am looking at getting something for each category from qt-apps. There are many programs that can compile against QT vs GTK such as vlc, webkit and others that are IMHO best in class for speed & size.
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PostPosted: Tue 19 May 2009, 13:09    Post subject:  

i think it would be intreresting to have qt based puppy, although it needs to find good apps
smplayer should be mentioned also Very Happy

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PostPosted: Tue 19 May 2009, 14:13    Post subject:  

Yes its a nice idea in theory, however so many core puppy programs are based on gtkdialog that it would be very difficult to go completely QT. I don't know of any drop-in replacement for gtkdialog... that would eliminate most of the wizards and several other programs that start with p. The wizards could mostly be converted to bash+xdialog, but we are talking about a lot of time for a lesser quality program... not something I would want to do. Perhaps the 2 wm style approach in 4.2 is a more realistic goal.

I have already found quite a selection of the other QT programs at qt-apps and also included in the QT-4.5.1 source tarball

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PostPosted: Tue 19 May 2009, 15:58    Post subject:  

Intersting, nice work. It can be combinated with opera shared libs (smaller size) and also with transmission since 1.6 has qt client. Now lets start the search for other qt apps. Very Happy

The only think I don't like with qt is that isn't GPL Sad
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PostPosted: Wed 20 May 2009, 02:03    Post subject:  

Why is LGPL so much worse than GPL?

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smplayer should be mentioned also

Nah - if we had QT we might as well use VLC, which is now QT and has:
1. A better interface (I think)
2. Better DVD support
3. Better VCD support
4. Better support for various other things Smile

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PostPosted: Wed 05 Aug 2009, 22:37    Post subject:  

just for comparison here is qlwm compiled against qt-4.5.2

the config files are in /root/.qlwm

requires only qtcore and qtgui (same as opera10)
qlwm-4.3-i486.pet
Description  Cutdown version
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Filename  qlwm-4.3-i486.pet 
Filesize  61.52 KB 
Downloaded  445 Time(s) 
qlwm-4.3-i486.pet
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pet

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Filename  qlwm-4.3-i486.pet 
Filesize  72.72 KB 
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PostPosted: Thu 06 Aug 2009, 21:41    Post subject:  

I just added QTCommander as a File Manager to 1st post. The QT4 version is not available as a tarball - development only but it seems ok for testing.

Opera is available as a browser, but I also have a < 5mb pet that has the QT Webkit Browser (flash works on it too)
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PostPosted: Fri 07 Aug 2009, 18:26    Post subject:  

Here is a torrent client
QTorrent-4.5.2.pet
Description  Basic bittorrent client from QT examples
pet

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Filename  QTorrent-4.5.2.pet 
Filesize  110.69 KB 
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PostPosted: Fri 07 Aug 2009, 18:30    Post subject:  

And a webkit browser that works with flash out of the box (and less than half a MB pet) needs QT{webkit,network,xml,gui} libs
QtBrowser-4.5.2.pet
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Filename  QtBrowser-4.5.2.pet 
Filesize  198.57 KB 
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PostPosted: Fri 07 Aug 2009, 20:59    Post subject:  

Here is a simple text editor for odf and html documents
QT4Editor-4.5.2.pet
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PostPosted: Sat 08 Aug 2009, 11:11    Post subject:  

as a burner goes, you could use tkdvd ?
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PostPosted: Sat 08 Aug 2009, 17:41    Post subject:  

but that's not QT Question
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PostPosted: Sat 08 Aug 2009, 17:55    Post subject:  

yes but its a good small less than 1.5MB including deps non gtk burner. whats the other choices min 5MB gtk deps plus burner app. or maybe bashburn but its not as nice.
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