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Tipsy Puppy 4.1.3 with universal video driver, now R1
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fgenius


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PostPosted: Tue 28 Apr 2009, 16:02    Post subject:  Tipsy Puppy 4.1.3 with universal video driver, now R1  

Oh, no, Puppy Linux has drunk way too much wine again, and now he's all wobbly! Look, he's running Windows apps as if he were Windows!

Big thanks to all the people who have contributed to this very Tipsy Puppy, especially:

+gray, who made NOP 4.1.3, which is the (hopefully proud) parent of Tipsy.
+MU, who spent many hours troubleshooting scripts so that Tipsy could run on many graphics cards.
+technosaurus, who keeps updating wine (Windows Is Not Emulated) so fast that it's hard to keep up with it. Now in version 1.1.18
+and all the others who have made the other components of Tipsy: dosbox, pwidgets, streamtuner, timidity++ (midi system), etc.

For those of you who won't read on, here's the puppy:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=7M1EQC9Q

Update: Revision 1, with some bugs squashed and wine 1.1.28:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=3FPIREF0

The goal I had for Tipsy Puppy is to carry "my computer" on a flashdrive. I want to be able to move from machine to machine, taking possession of its hardware and running my apps as seamlessly as possible.

But many of those apps are video games, and that means powerful graphics and (at least, for now) the ability to run Windows programs, hence the Wine. I've also thrown in DOSbox, for those old programs that are still a lot of fun, plus Timidity++ (midi music for games), and some of the amenities in Puppy 4.2, like streamtuner and pwidgets.

Faithful to NOP, its parent, Tipsy has no word processor, spreadsheet, etc., so you can add your favorite pet or sfs. To this effect, it incorporates the load_sfs script from this forum, which can load as many as you want without restarting.

The biggest difference between this Tipsy and the previous one (4.1.2, also in this forum), is the universal video driver, combining packages made by MU and gray, plus some script tricks by MU, which will hopefully cover most video cards found in a computer able to boot from USB. Because of this, Tipsy has put on a few megabytes, tipping the scales at over 200 MB, but it's probably worth it. It can also run Compiz fusion (pretty wobbly windows!), thanks to MU's clever scripts, modified from those in Newyearspup.

It still has a few bugs, which I hope you're going to help me squash:
1. the Compiz Config Settings Manager doesn't display any icons, I don't know why. It still fully functional, though. This has been solved in R1, thanks to tazoc
2. sometimes Thunar (the file manager) hangs, especially when a tree view is displayed on the left pane. See the readme on the desktop, on how to avoid this.
3. some of the video drivers are not likely to get much use. Please let me know which drivers can Tipsy shed in future updates, in your opinion.

Thanks, and enjoy it.

Woof, woof, wrrrllloouf, hic!

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PostPosted: Tue 28 Apr 2009, 16:28    Post subject:  

Wow, sounds cool as Fgenius! I'll certainly look for a chance to download it. What I really like about it is that it showcases what Puppy can really do, all on a flash drive! Brilliant! It's like you stick your flash in, on someone else's computer and it boots up into a foreign but beautiful land Smile, flashing screens, pretty lights, 3D games, and while looking so great, it can still run their Windows programs! I like it Fgenius, I'd say you're on the right track Very Happy

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PostPosted: Wed 29 Apr 2009, 01:01    Post subject:  

Quote:
For those of you who won't read on, here's the puppy:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=7M1EQC9Q


I am clearly not drunk enough to read the captcha.
Seems I need some captcha reading software because it seems crustacean proof

8 tries is my limit Smile
Embarassed 9th try worked . . .

Hopefully someone else or somewhere else will host Cool

Update: OK I am in it now, with nvidia and compiz running OK
That was an easy set up for my nvidia card (I choose the medium modern driver)
It has NOP, Wine and Tipsy compiz wobble - just as advertised
MS Office, Photoshop and other Window programs should work OK
Well done!
- OK off on my new bicycle now to mow a lawn and repot herb seedlings Smile

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MU


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PostPosted: Wed 29 Apr 2009, 02:13    Post subject:  

I had to enter the characters in lower case, it took several tries, too.

A mirror will be avialable in half an hour here:
http://puppyisos.org/isos/2009-01-to-06/Tipsy-4.1.3/
user: puppy password: linux

I cannot check, if the upload succeeded, as I must leave now to go to my course.
Will check it in the evening.

Mark

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PostPosted: Sun 31 May 2009, 05:29    Post subject:  

Hi,

I noticed that you used Megavideo for your upload rather than the usual mirror sites.

Are you interested in marketing Tipsy puppy?

I have tested your derivative against several others in this forum, and have found it to be the most functional and stable one of all, the main distribution among them.

If you are interested in burning or distributing the iso, I am willing to make a website for you for no money down, and a split of any profit afterwards.

I have never offered anyone this work arrangement before, but as your operating system will be playing the integral role in my workspace, it would be a worthwhile and fulfilling next project for me.

Please have a look at our site and tell me what you think.
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PostPosted: Tue 02 Jun 2009, 00:24    Post subject: Great Job
Subject description: Very sleek
 

Nicely done fgenius. First puplet I've tried with xfce.

PupDial did not probe my modem properly, so copying the wvdial.conf from my full 4.1.2 hdd install over fixed that. But then no blinky.

Would like single click launching, double click is too much like windoze. I

Multiple desktops with scroll wheel would be nice.

Xorg failed had to go with Xvesa.
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PostPosted: Tue 02 Jun 2009, 20:35    Post subject: Re: Compiz Config Settings Manager doesn't display any icons  

fgenius wrote:
1. the Compiz Config Settings Manager doesn't display any icons, I don't know why. It still fully functional, though.
I had the same problem in LHP and found this file '/usr/share/mime/magic' in Newyearspup02.

I can't explain what it does but it worked for me in Lighthouse Pup.
-TazOC
MimeMagic1-1.pet
Description  This pet inserts the file 'magic' into /usr/share/mime/
md5sum: d548faee5093681c693cbcc147b422d7
pet

 Download 
Filename  MimeMagic1-1.pet 
Filesize  5.79 KB 
Downloaded  491 Time(s) 

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MU


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PostPosted: Tue 02 Jun 2009, 22:05    Post subject:  

I did not follow this thread in detail, but as you talk about mimetypes:

/usr/share/mime/ contains files, that are used to generate mime-info.
This concept is used by most desktops, except Puppys Rox-Filer.

To actually create/update those info, one must run the command:
update-mime-database /usr/share/mime

Often also one needs to run this after instaling a program:
update-desktop-database

These should be run, whenever a new program was added, that adds files to /usr/share/mime.

Xfce and the filemanager Thunar are based on shared mime info.
In Newyearspup I execute these two commands when Puppy starts, as it uses Pcmanfm, a filemanager, that also is based on it.
So when a new sfs is added, the mime info in it will be added to the database.

Mark

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PostPosted: Sat 27 Jun 2009, 23:02    Post subject: Y-A-D-M..
Subject description: yet another download mirror
 

Hi fgenius,

Thank you for this puplet....he's now mirrored here also, with a couple of screenshots to entice the unwary Wink :
http://puppylinuxstuff.meownplanet.net/down3.html#tipsy

User: puppy
Pass: linux

Very Happy

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PostPosted: Tue 18 Aug 2009, 16:27    Post subject:
Subject description: Thanks! I'm back
 

I haven't looked at the forum for a while, but now I'm more or less back. Will try to incorporate the suggestions above into an update to Tipsy Puppy.
Thanks a million!
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PostPosted: Tue 25 Aug 2009, 22:16    Post subject:  

XFCE control panel does not save changes to settings on reboot.
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PostPosted: Wed 26 Aug 2009, 18:11    Post subject: Tipsy puppy updated  

Look at the head post for a link to Tipsy Puppy 4.13 Revision 1.

Wine has been updated to version 1.1.28, thanks to technosaurus
The compizconfig bug is squashed, courtesy of tazoc.

Die, win***s, die!

woof, woof, hic!
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PostPosted: Wed 26 Aug 2009, 18:32    Post subject:  

Hi, just thought you might like to know that Tipsy Puppy (and Lighthouse Pup) have been noted on Barry's Blog for built in Wine...
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Posted on 26 Aug 2009, 12:37 by Mistfire
Re: puppy with built in wine
Barry there is puplet called Tipsy Puppy. It has wine already inside of it and it uses xfce desktop environment. It is equipped with other building blocks like qt and gtk+ for better performance.
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Posted on 26 Aug 2009, 14:39 by BarryK
Tipsy Puppy
Ah yes, I recall that name! I have located the home page:

http://puppylinuxstuff.meownplanet.net/down3.html

...created by forum member 'fgenius'.
It's nice to be recognized and recommended!

Keep up the good work,
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PostPosted: Thu 27 Aug 2009, 02:29    Post subject:  

Yes, i noticed on the server logs that there's been a flurry of activity referencing Barry's blog - there've been several more downloads of Tipsy over the past 24 hours because of it, so am in the process of uploading fgenius' updated version now and will update Tipsy's info on the appropriate page when that's done.

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Posted on 26 Aug 2009, 14:39 by BarryK
Tipsy Puppy
Ah yes, I recall that name! I have located the home page:

http://puppylinuxstuff.meownplanet.net/down3.html

...created by forum member 'fgenius'.
Never thought of it as a 'home page' for anyone's puplet but doesn't matter, long as fgenius doesn't mind and those who want it can find it....a home for 'homeless' puplets? Laughing On that note, if you know anyone who needs a 'home page' for their puplet, i'll be happy to help out.

What i started off doing, a couple of months ago, was mirroring a few of the high-volume download puplets at the time (whether or not they had homes to go to), to take a little heat off caneri's servers, then added a few (the homeless ones?) that were being hosted on file-sharing sites....some users were having difficulties downloading from them, so wanted to add an alternative option.

My site desperately needs some good housekeeping now but i've been a bit distracted with other things lately....hopefully i'll get to concentrate on tidying up and improving the layout soon.

BTW tazOC, i use your excellent Lighthouse Pup too, thank you....so many wonderful puplets, so little time....howwwwl... Wink

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PostPosted: Fri 28 Aug 2009, 06:51    Post subject:  

Hi fgenius. Thanks a million for your well-made puplet. Just the thing I need to replace my old WNOP. Compiz worked well on NVIDIA 5500 and 6150. Also worked flawless with ATI x1050 video card. No Compiz however for my old ATI9250 where I intend to do a full hard disk install. Any suggestions on how I can make compiz work on the 9250? Thanks.
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