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disciple

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PostPosted: Thu 19 Mar 2009, 00:58    Post subject:  
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Thanks for the "heads-up" about the backlight staying on.
Does cutdown on lifetime of lcd screens; so I'll be turning
off power more often.

I think maybe you missed my point. By default Puppy turns the screen black after a while, but if you add the offtime setting to xorg.conf, the screen is properly blanked and should go into standby mode.

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I think power down drives (stop spinning?) is just available on
laptops. Laptop drives only use 1/4 or less power than 3.5 inch
pc drives anyway.

I've never tried that, but it is usually an option on desktop pcs in Windows, and people do claim to get substantial power savings from it.
There is a manual command, which I can't remember... but I think you must unmount the drive first.

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I was under the impression (probably mistaken) that "ecomoney"
was using old pcs' with crt monitors. I guess it is "standby" mode
that the crt monitors drop to after 20 minutes of non use.

They shouldn't switch to standby with Puppy's default screen "blacking" - they should need proper screen blanking. I'm curious to know exactly what's going on Smile
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PostPosted: Thu 19 Mar 2009, 01:05    Post subject:  
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There is a manual command, which I can't remember

I think it is hdparm (with the right option) that you are after.[/code]
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PostPosted: Thu 19 Mar 2009, 12:26    Post subject:  
disciple:

Just to be clear about what I've found, (tried 2 different crt monitors)
on my pc.

After 10 mins. the screen goes black; moving the mouse will bring
screen back instantly.

After 20 mins. of black screen, the power used by the monitor drops
to 1-2 watts (depending on which monitor). Moving the mouse brings
screen back up slowly; just like pushing the power button.

If I remember correctly, it's done this since I started with 3.01 up
through 4.12.

I don't know how to modify xorg conf. yet; so have not messed with
any settings.

When I get a chance, I'll attach a crt to my laptop to see if there is
any difference.

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PostPosted: Fri 20 Mar 2009, 00:15    Post subject:  
Interesting... I wonder if there is some suspend function or something, using acpi or apm, that my machines don't support.
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PostPosted: Fri 20 Mar 2009, 01:38    Post subject:  
The bios in the pc is Phoenix 4.0 release 6.07 1998 rev. 1

Power button has sleep-wake mode.

Hard disk has timeout.

Auto suspend timeout--time in standby before entering suspend.

I've always just run default settings.

Couldn't get the laptop to run a crt.
Probably time for me to learn xorg config so I can get synaptics,
svideo, etc. working properly.
Have any suggestions where I should start?

thanks
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PostPosted: Sun 12 Apr 2009, 06:46    Post subject:  
A really good review of how "green" puppy is

http://greentechgirl.com/e-waste/puppy-linux-for-old-pcs/comment-page-1/#comment-298

By a girl of all things!!!
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PostPosted: Sun 12 Apr 2009, 07:38    Post subject:  
ecomoney wrote:
By a girl of all things!!!


Shocked
It's an outrage!
Look what this gal has done with a perfectly good instrument . . .
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/1905431/canon_rock/

oh Ok . . . I liked it really Smile
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PostPosted: Sun 12 Apr 2009, 12:40    Post subject:  
Lobster...you need to be jumping on this sort of thing for puppy publicity, havnt you heard green is the new black?
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PostPosted: Sun 12 Apr 2009, 22:13    Post subject:  
this gal has even demystified the eternal secret of configuring the GRUB bootloader...far more difficult than playing the violin in my experience.
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PostPosted: Mon 13 Apr 2009, 11:50    Post subject:  
As they say - 'not just a pretty face' Very Happy

Nice, useful find, Rob

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PostPosted: Mon 13 Apr 2009, 12:22    Post subject:  
Wonder if we can get her to do a puppy linux beginners introductory tutorial?

Im sure it would be more watchable than anything I could produce. Razz
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PostPosted: Mon 13 Apr 2009, 13:13    Post subject:  
He He

I've asked - better than the ruderies posted by some on there.......

"I'd like to grub her", etc

C'mon you nerds - get out more!

http://www.linuxhaxor.net/2009/04/11/nixies-linux-haxor-quickie-getting-started-with-grub/

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PostPosted: Fri 17 Apr 2009, 02:46    Post subject:    
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He He

I've asked - better than the ruderies posted by some on there.......

"I'd like to grub her", etc

C'mon you nerds - get out more!
WATT? Those DRMed sons of BSODs are attempting to sync with my linguistic style? I outta boot their ASCIIs so hard their cookies crumble. I outta >/dev/null their faces. I outta signal a high priority interrupt during their breathing routines. I outta skew their clocks until their flipflops pop. Their motherboards are so fat they could install Vista on their BIOS. Their idea of a fast chip is a Dorito on an airplane. Their opamps are more like op-outs. Their NANDS NOR. They think PI is 3. If they ever come within arm's reach, they're getting a 300mF cap to the head, followed by a swift rm -f *. I'll ^C them so fast they'll think I'm the Doctor. I'll rot their bits until their segments fault. I'll defrag their hides and sell them on Ebay. And then I'll be in their kitchen, eating their foodz.

And to top it off, I'll have a cat notify them that all their base are belong to us.
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PostPosted: Sat 25 Apr 2009, 01:46    Post subject:  
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Lots of people leave their PCs on overnight. Often, this is for no good reason whatsoever, it’s just out of laziness. But sometimes it’s a conscious decision: if you want your computer to continue receiving updates, or transmit/receive information of any kind during the wee hours of the night, you need to leave it on. But even the lowest power settings generally burn more power than you need to do that minimal amount of computing.

Now, those people can use a system called Somniloquy. Although this device may be hard to spell, it does offer a cool service. Most computers have four levels of power consumption – regular use, standby, sleep/hibernate mode and completely shut down. A lot of people, including myself, prefer to hibernate their PCs rather than shut them off, because it allows them to start up again more quickly. With Somniloquy, you can hibernate your PC and still have it communicate with other PCs. Check out more details on Phys.org.

edit:fixed link to physorg.com. click it to go.
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PostPosted: Sat 25 Apr 2009, 18:21    Post subject:  
Phys.org appears to be a parked page, however, engadget....

http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/25/somniloquy-external-networking-card-lets-pcs-sleep-talk-essent/

PG, what have you been reading?? Laughing Laughing

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