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01micko

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Posted: Tue 21 Apr 2009, 01:46 Post subject:
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Ok big_bass
First impressions of Slaxer-pup 4.12. Nice!
I run an Asus A7S8X.... SiS chipset, (AMD 2100+ Athlon, 512DDR ram, shared with graphics, onboard Sata.... which in the verbose bootup was detected, though I've no Sata drives... Beem would like it!
Sound and network worked OOTB, both onboard, no probs with xorg, onboard 64M graphics.
Was a little slower to boot than a stock Puppy, extra things in the list to detect I expect, but none the less it looks and feels very crisp.
I like it! Now to try on a slower box... (don't think the 486 is quite up to it live though )
Cheers... Mick
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01micko

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Posted: Tue 21 Apr 2009, 02:42 Post subject:
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Hi big_bass
Well I'm back on my oldish IBM Aptiva... SiS chipset AMD k6 400MHz, 256sdram, 8M shared graphics, onboard sound and USB... all the onboard stuff was detected at bootup plus my 2 realtek ethernet cards. All worked too.
Had some trouble with wireless, that's the only way this box connects. Using my netgearWG111V2 (realtek.. rtl8187) was a failure, but I blame the card. I can only get it to run sweetly on a fast box in any puppy, and then it needs tweaking, depends how far from the router I am... . It was detected at bootup but I couldn't raise it, even with "if config wlan0 up" command. So I plugged in my el cheapo TP-link wireless B-G adapter and it was not detected at bootup. I racked my brain and remembered it is a Ralink using rt37usb module. I loaded that and here I am in about 60seconds.
So for me slaxer-pup is great.. now to try the lappy
One thing I forgot to mention... for some reason this OS seems to play an mp3 file better than 4.2 and marginally better than spup using BK's woof kernel. This box is too slow to test flash. I need this kernel for my spup!!!!
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Lobster
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Posted: Tue 21 Apr 2009, 02:53 Post subject:
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| Quote: | mans best friend is
puppy pfix=ram |
The truth
Many thanks.
I am using it on an AMD Athlon X2 dual processor - with the newer ISO you have posted.
I don't seem to have two processors running - what is the command line scriipt - that show this? (I ran top view from the menu)
Seems OK so far . . .
I tried the 'flush memory' script you included but that did not seem to close the audio player used to test audio (worked)
I have been through the thread 3 times now.
I am trying hard to understand what you have done and why?
It seems quite technical - the good news for those wondering it looks and feels like Puppy 4.12
The real question I have is how is this different to woof built spup?
Is it in the kernel and compression used?
You have started from Slackware with the configuration file rather than with Puppy?
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01micko

Joined: 11 Oct 2008 Posts: 7019 Location: qld
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Posted: Tue 21 Apr 2009, 03:17 Post subject:
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big_bass
Back again.
Lappy is an IBM Thinkpad R31, Celery 1066(P3 architcture), 512sdram, 8M Intel graphics, again, everything on board works OOTB! Even the Trackpoint stick thingy. Nice.
Ok, wireless. I have a Netgear WG511V2 pcmcia card on this one... crappy Marvell chipset unsupported by Linux... however it works a treat in all Puppies with ndiswrapper. This is where I hit a snag. . All seemed to be going ok when I got a fatal error.... no ndiswrapper module! Please load another module! Ah well, two outa three aint bad! And if I tried another adapter I know it would work But I couldn't be bothered ATM (Sorry!)
Hope some of this helps... and if not, at least puts a smile on your dial knowing that three vastly different sets of HW work just fine OOTB with Slaxer_Pup
Does BK know what your up to? I'm sure he'd be interested.
Cheers
Mick
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01micko

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Posted: Tue 21 Apr 2009, 03:27 Post subject:
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@Lobster
I think that what big_bass has done is used the slackware 12.2 kernel only, obviously with patches to get it to run live. I think all the packages are stock 4.1.2.
Spup from woof uses either a stock 4.1.2 kernel or Barry's woof kernel... sorry forget the number ATM and I'm not near a running spup box. Then many of the packages come from the Slackware 12.2 repo or the Slacky.eu repo and are stripped by woof's scripts.
So essentially, Slaxer_Pup is Slackware 12.2 in Puppy clothing and spup is woof in Slackware clothing. Sheep don't come into it. Does this make any sense at all???
Cheers
Mick
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aragon
Joined: 15 Oct 2007 Posts: 1690 Location: Germany
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Posted: Tue 21 Apr 2009, 10:06 Post subject:
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| 01micko wrote: | Ok, wireless. I have a Netgear WG511V2 pcmcia card on this one... crappy Marvell chipset unsupported by Linux... however it works a treat in all Puppies with ndiswrapper. This is where I hit a snag.  |
hi micko,
if i interpret barry's actual notes on his 2.6.29.1-kernel right, ndiswrapper uses the fuse-modul. so ndiswrapper maybe needs a recompile agains the slaxer-kernel/slaxer-fuse-module.
just a thought.
aragon
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Lobster
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Posted: Tue 21 Apr 2009, 11:44 Post subject:
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| 01micko wrote: | So essentially, Slaxer_Pup is Slackware 12.2 in Puppy clothing and spup is woof in Slackware clothing. Sheep don't come into it. Does this make any sense at all???
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Slaxer is Slackware with a Puppy front end
Spup is Puppy built from Slackware files
and the sheep are . . . eh . . .
will have to read the thread again . . .
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aragon
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Posted: Tue 21 Apr 2009, 11:51 Post subject:
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| Lobster wrote: | | Slaxer is Slackware with a Puppy front end |
Puppy with a slackware heart?!?
"Let me now present big_bass as Dr. Christiaan Barnard..."
aragon
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elraven
Joined: 03 Apr 2007 Posts: 80 Location: wnc-usa
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Posted: Tue 21 Apr 2009, 12:17 Post subject:
slaxer pup 4.12 back in action Subject description: thank you ! |
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Thank you , thank you, thank you ! This pup is cool beans ! it scoring big with people that have seen mine and want to know ,"how do i switch to puppy linux". Of course my phone bill is going up , mainly because ladies are calling me asking about it. You know how it is. " Hi, i'm a friend of so and so and i was wondering......" .
Anyway thanks Big Bass your top shelf in my book.
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Roy
Joined: 31 Dec 2008 Posts: 436
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Posted: Tue 21 Apr 2009, 13:09 Post subject:
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big_bass,
Small test on a SINGLE CORE Dell D610 as a Live CD:[/code]
| Code: | Computer
Processor Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1.86GHz
Memory 2062MB (121MB used)
Operating System Slackware 12.2.0
User Name root (root)
Date/Time Tue 21 Apr 2009 05:16:43 PM GMT-8
Display
Resolution 1024x768 pixels
OpenGL Renderer Unknown
X11 Vendor The X.Org Foundation
Multimedia
Audio Adapter ICH4 - Intel ICH6
Audio Adapter ICH-MODEM - Intel ICH6 Modem
Input Devices
Lid Switch
Power Button (CM)
Sleep Button (CM)
AT Translated Set 2 keyboard
USB OpticalWheel Mouse
Video Bus
Video Bus
Video Bus
PC Speaker
PS/2 Mouse
AlpsPS/2 ALPS GlidePoint
Printers (CUPS)
CUPS-PDF (Default)
IDE Disks
ST9160821A
HL-DT-STCD-RW/DVD-ROM GCC-4244N
SCSI Disks
hama Piko Business2.0
Operating System
Version
Kernel Linux 2.6.27.7 (i686)
Compiled #1 SMP Mon Nov 24 13:32:01 Local time zone must be set--see zic
C Library GNU C Library version 2.6.1 (stable)
Distribution Slackware 12.2.0
Current Session
Computer Name puppypc
User Name root (root)
Home Directory /root
Desktop Environment Unknown (Window Manager: JWM)
Misc
Uptime 21 minutes
Load Average 0.01, 0.05, 0.07
Kernel Modules
Loaded Modules
lp
snd_pcm_oss PCM OSS emulation for ALSA.
snd_seq_dummy ALSA sequencer MIDI-through client
snd_seq_oss OSS-compatible sequencer module
snd_seq_midi_event MIDI byte <-> sequencer event coder
snd_seq Advanced Linux Sound Architecture sequencer.
snd_seq_device ALSA sequencer device management
snd_mixer_oss Mixer OSS emulation for ALSA.
psmouse PS/2 mouse driver
tg3 Broadcom Tigon3 ethernet driver
libphy PHY library
ipw2200 Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 2200/2915 Network Driver
ieee80211 802.11 data/management/control stack
ieee80211_crypt HostAP crypto
pcspkr PC Speaker beeper driver
snd_intel8x0m Intel 82801AA,82901AB,i810,i820,i830,i840,i845,MX440; SiS 7013; NVidia MCP/2/2S/3 modems
snd_intel8x0 Intel 82801AA,82901AB,i810,i820,i830,i840,i845,MX440; SiS 7012; Ali 5455
snd_ac97_codec Universal interface for Audio Codec '97
ata_generic low-level driver for generic ATA
ac97_bus
evdev Input driver event char devices
snd_pcm Midlevel PCM code for ALSA.
snd_timer ALSA timer interface
snd Advanced Linux Sound Architecture driver for soundcards.
soundcore Core sound module
snd_page_alloc Memory allocator for ALSA system.
shpchp Standard Hot Plug PCI Controller Driver
intel_agp
intelfb Framebuffer driver for Intel(R) 830M/845G/852GM/855GM/865G/915G/915GM/945G/945GM/965G/965GM chipsets
agpgart AGP GART driver
video ACPI Video Driver
output Display Output Switcher Lowlevel Control Abstraction
parport_pc PC-style parallel port driver
parport
fuse Filesystem in Userspace
aufs aufs -- Another unionfs
squashfs squashfs 3.4, a compressed read-only filesystem, and LZMA suppport for slax.org
sqlzma LZMA uncompress for squashfs. Some functions for squashfs to support LZMA and a tiny wrapper for LzmaDecode.c in LZMA SDK from www.7-zip.org.
unlzma LZMA uncompress. A tiny wrapper for LzmaDecode.c in LZMA SDK from www.7-zip.org.
yenta_socket
rsrc_nonstatic
pcmcia_core Linux Kernel Card Services
Devices
Processor
Processor
Name Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1.86GHz
Family, model, stepping 6, 13, 8 (Pentium III/Pentium III Xeon/Celeron)
Vendor Intel Corp.
Configuration
Cache Size 2048kb
Frequency 1862.11MHz
BogoMIPS 3724.22
Byte Order Little Endian
Features
FDIV Bug no
HLT Bug no
F00F Bug no
Coma Bug no
Has FPU yes
Capabilities
fpu Floating Point Unit
vme Virtual 86 Mode Extension
de Debug Extensions - I/O breakpoints
pse Page Size Extensions (4MB pages)
tsc Time Stamp Counter and RDTSC instruction
msr Model Specific Registers
pae Physical Address Extensions
mce Machine Check Architeture
cx8 CMPXCHG8 instruction
apic Advanced Programmable Interrupt Controller
sep Fast System Call (SYSENTER/SYSEXIT)
mtrr Memory Type Range Registers
pge Page Global Enable
mca Machine Check Architecture
cmov Conditional Move instruction
pat Page Attribute Table
clflush Cache Line Flush instruction
dts Debug Store
acpi Thermal Monitor and Software Controlled Clock
mmx MMX technology
fxsr FXSAVE and FXRSTOR instructions
sse SSE instructions
sse2 SSE2 (WNI) instructions
ss Self Snoop
tm Thermal Monitor
pbe Pending Break Enable
nx No-execute Page Protection
up
bts
est
tm2
Memory
Memory
Total Memory 2062276 kB
Free Memory 1736548 kB
Buffers 39200 kB
Cached 204888 kB
Cached Swap 0 kB
Active 80596 kB
Inactive 198776 kB
High Memory 1171268 kB
Free High Memory 922312 kB
Low Memory 891008 kB
Free Low Memory 814236 kB
Virtual Memory 0 kB
Free Virtual Memory 0 kB
Dirty 0 kB
Writeback 0 kB
AnonPages 35288 kB
Mapped 25160 kB
Slab 14400 kB
SReclaimable 9520 kB
SUnreclaim 4880 kB
PageTables 752 kB
NFS_Unstable 0 kB
Bounce 0 kB
WritebackTmp 0 kB
CommitLimit 1031136 kB
Committed_AS 176860 kB
VmallocTotal 114680 kB
VmallocUsed 8344 kB
VmallocChunk 105856 kB
DirectMap4k 32768 kB
DirectMap4M 884736 kB
PCI Devices
PCI Devices
Class 0600 8086:2590
Class 0300 8086:2592
Class 0380 8086:2792
Class 0604 8086:2660
Class 0c03 8086:2658
Class 0c03 8086:2659
Class 0c03 8086:265a
Class 0c03 8086:265b
Class 0c03 8086:265c
Class 0604 8086:2448
Class 0401 8086:266e
Class 0703 8086:266d
Class 0601 8086:2641
Class 0101 8086:2653
Class 0200 14e4:1677
Class 0607 104c:8036
Class 0780 104c:8038
Class 0280 8086:4220
USB Devices
Printers
Printers (CUPS)
CUPS-PDF (Default)
Battery
Battery: BAT0
State charged (load: 1 mA)
Capacity 4800 mAh / 4800 mAh (100.00%)
Battery Technology rechargeable (LION)
Model Number DELL Y13385
Serial Number 4499
Sensors
ACPI Thermal Zone
THM 44°C
Input Devices
Input Devices
Lid Switch
Power Button (CM)
Sleep Button (CM)
AT Translated Set 2 keyboard
USB OpticalWheel Mouse
Video Bus
Video Bus
Video Bus
PC Speaker
PS/2 Mouse
AlpsPS/2 ALPS GlidePoint
Storage
IDE Disks
ST9160821A
HL-DT-STCD-RW/DVD-ROM GCC-4244N
SCSI Disks
hama Piko Business2.0 |
Unfortunately, the Universal Installer script would not allow me to create a USB-drive version (as you have already noted). No wireless access points are available for testing, but Ethernet functions fine.
-Roy
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Roy
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Posted: Tue 21 Apr 2009, 13:23 Post subject:
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big_bass,
I also tried Slaxer_Pup on my own Dell Mini 9 (Inspiron 910) with an Atom SMP-capable processor. It is actually a single core chip that uses multi-threading, as I understand it. This is a finicky machine that does not like any official Puppy release since the Dingo-retro kernel... but I think this is a puppy thing since it does fine with past and current releases of Ubuntu, Anti-X, Mint, Slitaz, etc.
And the Live CD would not load past this point:
| Code: | Loading kernel drivers needed to access disk drives...squashfs: version 3.4 (2008/08/26) Phillip Lougher
squashfs: LZMA support for slax.org by jro
aufs 20081117
fuse init (API version 7.9)
done
Searching for Puppy files in computer disk drives...kjournald starting. Commit interval 5 seconds
EXT3 FS on hda2, internal journal
EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode.
pup_412.sfs not found. Dropping out to initial-ramdisk console...
/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off
#scsi 2:0:0:0: CD-ROM HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-E50L NE01 PQ: 0 ANSI: 0
sr0: scsi3mmc drive: 24x/24x writer dvd-ram cd/rw xa/form2 cdda tray
Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.20
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In an attempt to bypass this problem, I loaded Slaxer_Pup onto a 2GB USB memory stick via a Windows version 319 of unetbootin. Other folks have successfully run the later official Puppy distro (k2.6.25.16) on their Mini 9s using this method (and version of unetbootin) on a USB drive. This was as far as that attempt loaded:
| Code: | Loading kernel drivers needed to access disk drives...squashfs: version 3.4 (2008/08/26) Phillip Lougher
squashfs: LZMA support for slax.org by jro
aufs 20081117
fuse init (API version 7.9)
done
Searching for Puppy files in computer disk drives...kjournald starting. Commit interval 5 seconds
EXT3 FS on hda2, internal journal
EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode.
pup_412.sfs not found. Dropping out to initial-ramdisk console...
/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off
#scsi 2:0:0:0: Direct-Access hama Piko Business2.0 1100 PQ: 0 ANSI: 0 CCS
sd 2:0:0:0: [sda] 3963904 512-byte hardware sectors (2030 MB)
sd 2:0:0:0: [sda] Write Protect is off
sd 2:0:0:0: [sda] Assuming drive cache: write through
sd 2:0:0:0: [sda] 3963904 512-byte hardware sectors (2030 MB)
sd 2:0:0:0: [sda] Write Protect is off
sd 2:0:0:0: [sda] Assuming drive cache: write through
sda: sda1
sd 2:0:0:0: [sda] Attached SCSI removable disk
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I would be more than willing to make another attempt with this netbook, if someone could give me directions to follow. Oh, and I tried typing "Puppy Pupdirectory" that was mentioned in a previous poster (this thread), but obviously am not seasoned enough in Linux to pursue the subtle Pupdirectory hint further.
-Roy
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big_bass

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Posted: Tue 21 Apr 2009, 15:36 Post subject:
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thanks Loster, micko,Roy
for testing and reporting
here is a cheat
to get the info fast
I'll add more
| Code: | #!/bin/sh
#quick info grabbing for testing
dmesg >/root/dmesg.txt&&gzip /root/dmesg.txt
cat /proc/cpuinfo>/root/cpuinfo.txt&&gzip /root/cpuinfo.txt
cp /tmp/bootkernel.log /root&& gzip /root/bootkernel.log
#only for xorg uncomment
#cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log>/root&&gzip /root/Xorg.0.log
#cat /tmp/xerrs.txt>/root&&gzip /root/xerrs.txt |
Lobster this is what you were looking for
duo detection
see image see the number 2 highlighted
I will make an easy summary of what was done to make Slaxer_Pup
different
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01micko

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Posted: Tue 21 Apr 2009, 16:06 Post subject:
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| Quote: | | if i interpret barry's actual notes on his 2.6.29.1-kernel right, ndiswrapper uses the fuse-modul. so ndiswrapper maybe needs a recompile agains the slaxer-kernel/slaxer-fuse-module. |
I think that's right aragon.... I read that too on BK's blog.
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Béèm

Joined: 21 Nov 2006 Posts: 11782 Location: Brussels IBM Thinkpad R40, 256MB, 20GB, WiFi ipw2100. Frugal Lin'N'Win
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Posted: Tue 21 Apr 2009, 17:35 Post subject:
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| 01micko wrote: | | I run an Asus A7S8X.... SiS chipset, (AMD 2100+ Athlon, 512DDR ram, shared with graphics, onboard Sata.... which in the verbose bootup was detected, though I've no Sata drives... Beem would like it! | I'll give it a try then.
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Béèm

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Posted: Tue 21 Apr 2009, 18:14 Post subject:
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Worth trying, but no joy for the second sata HDD.
Also I didn't see something about my second cpu.
I am pretty sure the kernel I need is 2.6.29.1
With upup-015 (2.6.29.rc7) I have my second sata HDD.
Fortunately Barry announced that he had chosen the 2.6.29.1
I tried wow's unamed also, this one having 2.6.28.5, but this one don't pass the boot.. I get an error message I don't understand and didn't get an answer. But I know wow is very busy.
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