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Sage · #21 Post by **Sage** » Wed 08 Apr 2009, 11:25

..........and 10alpha???

01micko · #22 Post by **01micko** » Wed 08 Apr 2009, 19:18

Well with Easter coming I may get the time. (you're just trying to sell me on Opera... aren't you sage..

)

#23 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Wed 08 Apr 2009, 19:26

Hey Mick

I don't think Opera Could ever fly as fast as Firepup, Plus it has the Qt feel to it. grrrrrrrr lol
anyways if you want the latest version Opera 9.64 8.2MB that should work out of the box and its 2.5MB compressed smaller because I removed the locales and only left english, here's a link
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=40969
it should work out of the box for you.
enjoy
ttuuxxx

01micko · #24 Post by **01micko** » Wed 08 Apr 2009, 19:33

tuuxxx

I'll give 9.6 a spin over easter too. I'll do some times. I'm suspecting there willl be nothing between Firepup and Opera.

Sage · #25 Post by **Sage** » Wed 15 Apr 2009, 09:20

Easter is over. Agog are we, awaiting your results...........

01micko · #26 Post by **01micko** » Wed 15 Apr 2009, 10:31

Agog no more

Firepup-4.3-dev

Google (from start) 20.3s
pupplinux.org 18.1s
01micko's site 6.8s
Barry's Blog 6.3s
Puppylinux.ca 11.9 s

Opera-9.64

Google (from start) 14.3s
pupplinux.org 9.5s
01micko's site 3.8s
Barry's Blog 4.4s
Puppylinux.ca 6.2

There ya go

Footnote, spup on AMD k6 400MHz, 256MB ram running live. I mixed them up. All sites should have been in cache because these are "best of" figures. Nice

Later I'll compare Opera-10 alpha with SeaMonkey-2 alpha.... on fast and slow box...hehe

Sage · #27 Post by **Sage** » Wed 15 Apr 2009, 10:47

Brilliant, 01 - perhaps the naysayers will listen, at last?
You are going to like 10a even more.....

#28 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Wed 15 Apr 2009, 12:38

Sage wrote:Brilliant, 01 - perhaps the naysayers will listen, at last?
You are going to like 10a even more.....

Naaa Sage Those times for Firepup are really slow, I've never seen them that slow, The only reason why they would be slow is the base its being tested on, Since Opera is a static Qt version and uses its own QT and Firepup was compiled on puppy 4 series & Libs and its being used on a slack/puppy mix it could be that. I know that opera would never open/fully load http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy in 2.2sec like I posted on the first page using 4.2 or 4 series. In the future I might try to make a static browser, I really should rip apart opera one of these days and see how it ticks

ttuuxxx

01micko · #29 Post by **01micko** » Thu 16 Apr 2009, 08:43

ttuuxxx

Slow machine, fast OS.

There are more to browsers than speed. I won't go into that. The compilation issue I think doesn't matter. IMO, these are reasonable speeds for Firepup on a slow box, believe me it is slow! (compared to my athlon), and it could be dumb luck that Opera was faster.. (maybe Sage was using voodoo

).

Cheers

panzerpuppy · #30 Post by **panzerpuppy** » Fri 17 Apr 2009, 06:24

Updated the Opera Do-It-Yourself Guide (Apr 17 2009):

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=28317

01micko · #31 Post by **01micko** » Fri 17 Apr 2009, 07:20

panzer

When I used your Opera 9.5 link I just ran "install.sh" from term. Any reason you don't do that? Worked fine for me.

ttuuxxx has a 9.64 compile available as a .pet, that works ok. I understand if people want more than the pet offers.

ttuuxxx.

Maybe a bug with your Opera9.64 pet, passwords for forums etc seem not to be saving for me. Any idea?

Cheers

#32 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Fri 17 Apr 2009, 07:35

Naa its the full static package from Opera itself, nothing removed. Opera doesn't give you as much control over it as does Firefox, but if you really wanted to fix it, I"M !00% sure you'll find your answer in the /root/.Opera hidden folder. It would be one of those config scripts.
ttuuxxx

panzerpuppy · #33 Post by **panzerpuppy** » Fri 17 Apr 2009, 10:27

panzer

When I used your Opera 9.5 link I just ran "install.sh" from term. Any reason you don't do that? Worked fine for me.

It works fine, but if you *don't* use the shellscript,you have a portable (sandboxed) Opera confined to one directory. That means easy updates / upgrades / backup:

When you're upgrading ,just delete everything but the 'profile' directory and extract the fresh build to the Opera folder

Backup: You can copy the whole Opera directory to a USB flash drive and use it from there (a basic script will do the trick)

01micko · #34 Post by **01micko** » Fri 17 Apr 2009, 10:42

ty panzer

I did the same about a year ago when FF3 was emerging, in Mandriva... (my pre-puppy days... dark ages

)

01micko · #35 Post by **01micko** » Fri 17 Apr 2009, 11:19

ttuuxxx, no problems... I just didn't know how to use the wand... the idea is a bit silly IMO

Sage · #36 Post by **Sage** » Wed 22 Apr 2009, 08:05

Time rolls on, 01. I might need to change my underwear if I wait much longer for your O10a assessment....

ecomoney · #37 Post by **ecomoney** » Tue 28 Apr 2009, 07:38

Would you also test ecofox in your report

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=40497

It was developed on P700/192mb's, it wont fare well in terms of speed against the other browsers (even though its been speed optimized in its config)m but users will save time not having to configure themselves

Colonel Panic · #38 Post by **Colonel Panic** » Tue 28 Apr 2009, 08:09

I've been impressed with the recent versions of Seamonkey, especially since they've incorporated spell checking into the browser. I still use Sylpheed or Claws for E-mail though.

01micko · #39 Post by **01micko** » Tue 28 Apr 2009, 20:21

. I might need to change my underwear if I wait much longer for your O10a assessment....

Sage

No numbers, because I've been flat out doing other stuff as well as testing. Even real life stuff!

Opera10 alpha is very fast in quite a few puplets, including NYP, spup, slaxer-pup and standard 4.21.

However in NYP a new browser enters the equation. FF3.07 which Mark has humming very fast.

I may in the next week or so take a look at ecofox... is that based on FF2.x?

Colonel Panic · #40 Post by **Colonel Panic** » Tue 28 Apr 2009, 21:04

Yep, 2.0.0.20 (the latest update of the 2 series as well as the last one planned) if I remember rightly.

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