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kirk

Joined: 11 Nov 2005
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Location: florida

PostPosted: Sun 12 Apr 2009, 07:33    Post_subject:  Fatdog 112
Sub_title: re-uploaded 4-14-09
 

Changes since Fatdog 111:

* upgrade Flash 10 to the latest version.
* Grabbed Joe's nightly build of JWM. This will be the default now that fullscreen problems are gone.
* Xine-ui replaces Gxine.
* include SDL headers.
* upgraded Dougal's network wizard to latest version with Jamesbond's mods.
* upgraded Pburn
* removed module ssb from the initrd.gz, no idea why it was there and it causes problems with bcm43xx and wl.
* upgrade Pfind
* added Jamesbond's mount.cifs and nbtscan
* Seamonkey from Puppy 4.2 replaces Firefox, Komposer, and Sylpheed.
* added Git to the devx file.
* added smartctl.
* gpicview is the default viewer for images.
* added pdfclean.

Thanks to Jamesbond for his help.


Changes from Fatdog 110 to Fatdog 111.

* Update Kernel to 2.6.28.6, without 4k stacks and with PCI_MSI, for improved Ndiswrapper support and to support the latest ATI driver.
* Fixed Lxpanel not being visible at boot. Thanks to Wow.
* Turned off auto update in Firefox. Thanks to eztuxer.
* Added Chntpw and GUI. Used for resetting MS Windows passwords.
* Added a GUI to make partition backups of NTFS (Windows). This will backup a NTFS partition into one big compressed image file or into multiple smaller files. Tested with Windows 2000 and Vista. You'll find these last two under "Utility" in the menu.
* Recompile Openbox to fix a mistake.
* Several other small fixes and improvements.

Changes from Puppy 4.1.2 to Fatdog 110:

* Add Firefox 3.06 to replace Seamonkey.
* Add Komposer
* Add Sylpheed
* Add Scribus
* Add Pdfedit
* Add Gimp
* Add Kino & needed libraries.
* Add full Xorg 7.3
* Add SDL libraries.
* Add Qt3 libraries.
* Add Openbox and Lxpanel
* Add US English dictionary to Abiword.
* Upgrade to Flash 10
* Upgrade Gftp.
* Changed kernels to linux-2.6.28.4
* Changed to squashfs 3.4 with lzma compression.
* Upgraded ALSA libraries.
* Changed pup_save from ext2 to ext3.
* Fixed cancel job bug in CUPS.
* Added modem support for Blackberry (Verizon 8803e)
* Added the kernel source to the devx file along with qt3, SVN, and other stuff.

It's 120MB, you'll find it here along with the devx file.:

http://puppylinux.asia/tpp/kirk/Fatdog/iso/112/

Note: You'll see versions of the iso and devx files with logrow-aufs2, DO NOT use these, they are experimental.


A Open Office 3.01 sfs file is here:

http://puppylinux.asia/tpp/kirk/Fatdog/iso/111/OpenOffice3.1.sfs

And a pet package for ATI's fglrx driver:

http://puppylinux.asia/tpp/kirk/Fatdog/iso/111/ATI_fglrx-9.2.pet


Username=puppy
Password=linux


Note: I did not compile the extra modem drivers. I did enable "Development" modules. So there is some different hardware support. For instance, the rtl8180 wifi module is in there.

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Caneri

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PostPosted: Sun 12 Apr 2009, 08:36    Post_subject:  

Hi kirk,

I fixed the permissions on .asia for the devx and copied the new files to .ca
http://puppylinux.ca/tpp/kirk/Fatdog/iso/112/

A Open Office 3.1 sfs file is here:
http://puppylinux.ca/tpp/kirk/Fatdog/iso/111/OpenOffice3.1.sfs

And a pet package for ATI's fglrx driver:
http://puppylinux.ca/tpp/kirk/Fatdog/iso/111/ATI_fglrx-9.2.pet

Eric

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Sage

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PostPosted: Sun 12 Apr 2009, 08:40    Post_subject:  

So, it's a good news:
Xine-ui replaces Gxine
bad news:
Seamonkey from Puppy 4.2 replaces Firefox, Komposer, and Sylpheed
version, then!

Stick in Opera10alpha instead and all our woes are gone....
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kirk

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Location: florida

PostPosted: Sun 12 Apr 2009, 13:54    Post_subject:  

Eric,

Thanks for for fixing the permissions. I keep forgetting to check that. Most of all thanks for the hosting!


Sage,

Oh yes, SeaMonkey version is 1.1.15. I know there's a 1.1.16 out with a couple of fixes, but not worth the bother. I did try the latest Opera10a snapshot, seems a lot slower on pages with Flash than the previous version, you still can't post comments to Barry's blog and then there's the FTP issues. I really do like Opera 10, especially since Fatdog has QT, but it's not quite there yet. One big problem with Opera is that web designers tend to test out their creations with IE and Firefox and that's all. I'm not sure if/how Opera overcomes this. Maybe if IE and Firefox become acid3 compliant.
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Sage

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PostPosted: Mon 13 Apr 2009, 03:43    Post_subject:  

No problem with Firefox, just tend to prefer life without SM !
NYP, NOP and other derivatives manage Opera without any difficulty.
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jamesbond

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PostPosted: Mon 13 Apr 2009, 04:31    Post_subject:  

I am normally very quiet about this, but I guess it's time to raise my voice. By necessity, I will have to vote against Opera as the default browser until the problem is fixed (by Opera --- this is not a puppy problem).

The problem I will mention was true for Linux version of Opera 9. I have not tested Opera 10, and Windows versions of Opera have no problems. SM and firefox do not have problem.

Linux version of Opera cannot authenticate with proxy servers which uses NTLM authentication.

Who use NTLM authentication for proxy server? Well, most offices who uses MS ISA server (=that's MS proxy server) do. Most ISA installation will be configured with NTLM authentication to allow seamless integration between IE and Windows logon.

In this circumstances, no NTLM authentication = no proxying = no Internet. End of story.

I would rather have a default browser that will work in most conditions, though it may be a bit slow/sluggish/resource-hungry/bad-looking/(insert other complaints here) --- rather than one which is known to be not working in one significant use case.

Those who are not hampered by this condition can always download Opera from the repo.

cheers!

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jamesbond

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PostPosted: Tue 14 Apr 2009, 00:22    Post_subject:  

kirk, 112 will not boot - please see my pm.
EDIT: kirk has fixed the problem

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panzerpuppy

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PostPosted: Tue 14 Apr 2009, 02:51    Post_subject:  

The Linux version of Opera (even the latest Opera 10 snapshot) has other BIG issues:

- Flash videos are extremely choppy / slow. Many sites don't work with Opera+Flash10, especially those free pr0n sites Smile

- https sites take ages to load, hang or fail. 90% of the time,you have to reload the page 3 times to get it working.

- Try to open distrowatch.com with Opera. You won't see any images (access forbidden ?!?)
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Sage

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PostPosted: Tue 14 Apr 2009, 04:09    Post_subject:  

Too much BS about Opera around here. Of course Distrowatch resolves correctly.
Folks need to appreciate that Opera is NOT IE, nor is it Firefox, or even SlimeMonster. Why should they do things like the rest of the bunch when those other browsers are known to be defective?! Take a few moments to make sure your HW is running correctly, that your Puppy is loaded and running properly, then spend a few more seconds making sure you've set up Opera for your preferences. If there are some extra features about Opera that you need - have you emailed them/reported bugs/contributed to their Forum - just like you do here?! Professionals can approach the Opera management directly with suggestions and will be pleasantly surprised by the reception they receive, unlike most other developers.
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kirk

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PostPosted: Tue 14 Apr 2009, 10:10    Post_subject:  

I made a big mistake!

I put the wrong kernel in the ISO. I'll re-upload the iso tonight. I'll post again when it's up.



EDIT: It's Fixed ; I uploaded it at about 14:00 GMT.

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Ray MK


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PostPosted: Wed 15 Apr 2009, 04:12    Post_subject:  

Hi

Using FD112 now - seems fine - nice puppy

Best regards - Ray
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jakfish

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PostPosted: Wed 15 Apr 2009, 16:01    Post_subject:  

Hi, Kirk,

Congratulations. I'm downloading 1.12 now, but a quick question: will a 4.1.2 pup_save (ext2) work in 1.12? Or do I have to start anew?

Thanks,
Jake
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kirk

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PostPosted: Thu 16 Apr 2009, 13:12    Post_subject:  

Quote:
will a 4.1.2 pup_save (ext2) work in 1.12? Or do I have to start anew?


You should make a new pup_save file. With out looking through the init script, It may only try to mount it ext3.


Also, I'm going to re-upload the devx file. Jamesbond noticed the symlinks from the kernel source are wrong. Should be done in a couple hours.
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raffy

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PostPosted: Thu 16 Apr 2009, 18:45    Post_subject: 3fs error  

I noted that pup_save displayed errors at the second shutdown in an all-ntfs hard disk. Is there any filesystem preference for the pup_save.3fs host partition?

Also, FYI, "set global font" in the menu does not work.

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jamesbond

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PostPosted: Fri 17 Apr 2009, 00:44    Post_subject: Re: 3fs error  

raffy wrote:
I noted that pup_save displayed errors at the second shutdown in an all-ntfs hard disk. Is there any filesystem preference for the pup_save.3fs host partition?

Also, FYI, "set global font" in the menu does not work.


I can't help about this the first one - I also noted that and kirk told me it's happens due to the way puppy use aufs/unionfs for its save file.

I can help you with no 2: Open /usr/sbin/set-xftdpi with geany, and replace the exec line with this one:
Code:

exec gins /usr/sbin/set-xftdpi.sh /usr/sbin/set-xftdpi.glade

Don't ask me why it works - I don't know why. I tested in 4.2 it works fine, perhaps 4.2 uses upgraded gins.

There is another small issue - missing smb link (need to print to Windows shared printers). /usr/lib/cups/backend/smb should be a symlink to /opt/samba/bin/smbspool.

I know all this from 111 days but I made minor adjustment myself and forgot the report it to kirk - sorry !!! Sad

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