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Newyearspup 02 Micro, Mini, Midi, and Maxi RC10
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MU


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PostPosted: Sat 11 Apr 2009, 13:03    Post subject:  

I updated the rc8 bugfix in my former message.
-added /etc/X11/xorg.conf.ati-template

This is required by the Ati catalyst driver, if no xorg.conf exists yet.
If you run the Iso the first time and want to use the catalyst driver, it fails, as there is no xorg.conf.
You can solve this in 2 ways:
- run "xorgwizard" (using "xorg") first in the graficsdrivers setup.
- or run xorgwizard using "xvesa", then install the bugfix pet.

Then exit X, "type xorgwizard", and chooe the catalyst driver.

I will upload tonight the rc9, that allows to select catalyst directly at startup.
Rc9 just includes the rc8 bugfix.
It will contain no other changes, so if you have rc8 with bugfix, you will not need rc9.
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PostPosted: Sat 11 Apr 2009, 16:49    Post subject:  

uploaded rc9.

It is like rc8, but includes the rc8 bugfix for the Desktop options utility and the Ati Catalyst driver.
The Catalyst now should work, if you select it directly at startup.

I also verified the checksums on the server.

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PostPosted: Sat 11 Apr 2009, 17:17    Post subject:  Trash can in NYpup  

Newyears'pup is very impressive, indeed a great work. But is there a way to get a trash for inadvertent people ?
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PostPosted: Sat 11 Apr 2009, 17:32    Post subject:  

The defaultdesktop based on lxde has no trash.
But when you logout, you can select the Desktopchooser.

There you can select desktops based on JWM and Icewm.
Those use Rox-filer from Puppy, that has a trash.


You also could create a LXDE based desktop using Rox-Filer.

Make copies of these 3 files:
/usr/local/Desktopstarters/startlxdesktop
/usr/local/Desktopstarters/stoplxdesktop
/root/.desktopchooser/desktops/lxdesktop


Copy them so, that they have names like startlxdesktoprox, stoplxdesktoprox, lxdesktoprox.

Then edit startlxdesktoprox
replace:
Code:
pcmanfm -d &

with:
Code:
pcmanfm -d --no-desktop &
sleep 3 && rox -p /root/Choices/ROX-Filer/PuppyPin &


And add to:
stoplxdesktoprox
Code:
killall ROX-Filer


Finally edit lxdesktoprox, to set a descriptive title for the Desktopchooser, instead of "LXDE MU" for example: "LXDE with Rox".

Then logout, and you should see your new desktop in the desktopchooser.

I cannot tell you, how good this combination works, if you think it is ok (and maybe added other changes), please upload your modifications.
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PostPosted: Sat 11 Apr 2009, 17:43    Post subject:  

Thank you Mark, I just do what you tell me and it works immediatly, wonderfull !
Here's the 3 modified files
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PostPosted: Sun 12 Apr 2009, 04:24    Post subject:  

BarryK wrote:


One thought that occurred to me, as I think Vala has a big future, why not write a beginners book on Vala/Genie -- cover both bases, all examples in both syntaxes alongside each other. You would be able to ride the wave when it comes. A "Vala for Dummies" book would be good.

Just a thought for something you could do that might earn money in the future!

If you did it through an established publisher, you would have many more sales, but you would have to expect at least 6 months solid work. I say this from experience. Basically, you write a chapter, send it to them, they send it back with a million corrections (and you start to get very annoyed with them). I think Sage has some experience in this field too.
self publishing at http://www.lulu.com may be an option. Havent tried it personally but their popularity and success is not in question.
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PostPosted: Sun 12 Apr 2009, 05:13    Post subject: Problem with petget  

I tried to install firefox 3.0.3.pet and other pets and, after cliking on "install etc.", installation failed. After a lot of search, I found that it was because my pets was saved in folder with a space in its path. I fixed it by replacing petget (in /usr/sbin/) by a fixed one provided by Pizzasgood. See this page and this one.
I suggest to replace petget by Pizzasgood's one in the future version of NYpup. Such kind of minor problems are very troublesome for non geeks (like me).
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PostPosted: Sun 12 Apr 2009, 06:24    Post subject:  

thanks wkr.

We had to modify petget, as NYP uses a localized version.
Simply extracting Pizzasgoods version would break localization.

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I attach a pet with your files, to run Lxde with rox filer as desktopicons.
I changed one line, so that the Panel is located at bottom.
So you have the same "layout" as if you would use Jwm.
This avoids, that the icons on top of the screen are covered by the panel.

Changed:
Code:
sleep 8 && lxpanel --profile lxdesktop &

to:
Code:
sleep 8 && lxpanel --profile icewm+lxpanel &


The lxpanel profiles are located in /root/.config/lxpanel/.
I already had created there several ones.

This pet will be included in rc10.

Mark
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PostPosted: Sun 12 Apr 2009, 09:53    Post subject:  

In the spanish forum, a addon for Puppy was announced, "Med-look-Taxi".

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=41043

I have made a sfs, that is optimized for Newyearspup.
Download from:
http://puppyisos.org/isos/2009-01-to-06/Newyearspup02/addons-Mini-Midi-Maxi/
User: puppy password: linux

You might have to update the list of skins for the gdesklets clock by typing this in a consolewindow:
gdesklets-updateclock


I have removed files, that are in NYP already, and added an entry for the Desktopchooser (Xfce + Lxpanel + Wbar).
I added slight modifications, e.g. a new lxpanel profile.
The XFCE windowmanager (only that, no other XFCE parts) is included.

Once the Desktop is active, you must set in the utilities on your own the Gtktheme, Icontheme, Background.
I added clockfaces for the Analogclock (but there still misses a tool to set it), and the gdesklets clock.
The fullscreen screenshot at the downloadlink shows you the settings tools you must run, to get the same look.

I hope I forgot nothing, please let me know, if your desktop does not work or looks different.

Here is a different screenshot, after I slightly changed some settings (panel at bottom, different background/clock):
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=294596#294596

**UPDATE:
- added 15 xfwm themes and 16 new backgrounds from Inga Nielsen http://www.gatetonowhere.de/gallery/categories.php?cat_id=2.
And an entry for the desktopchooser to have the panel at bottom.

Mark
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PostPosted: Sun 12 Apr 2009, 10:16    Post subject:  

Bonjour,
Hello Mark, here is the petget localized modified.
Cordialement Wink

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PostPosted: Sun 12 Apr 2009, 10:27    Post subject:  

esmourguit, merci beaucoup, je vais l'ajouter en rc10 Smile
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PostPosted: Sun 12 Apr 2009, 11:58    Post subject:  

updated Taxi-xfwm4_411.sfs.
Removed Taxi-xfwm4_411.pet.

Changes:
- slightly modified the entries in lxpanel.
- Moved the mime icons for rox-filer to /usr/share/icons/Taxi/ (so this is solved different than in the original pet).
- added a icontheme cache. As this is 47 MB, I decided to no longer offer a pet.
- Added a script gdesklets-updateclock, that can update the list of installed clocks for gdesklets.

I encounter one strange thing:
If I run the xfce settings, I can no longer use the first 2 buttons.
That had worked before.
I get an error, that the running windowmanager is not supported.
Maybe I must restart X, but I have many windows open at moment.
**edit, after a reboot, it works again, so you could select different xfce themes (windowborders).

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PostPosted: Sun 12 Apr 2009, 14:20    Post subject:  

Hi Mark. I tried out Newyearspup Maxi RC9 in hopes it would support my brother's odd hardware and was surprised to find the wireless working. I did a full install because I thought it would simplify things for my linux illiterate brother. Attempts to use pcdripper are met with dialogs asking if I wish to rip another disk before I even do so. Seems like a bug.

I've never actually used the program before, but it works after several failing dialogs. Overall, it should suit his needs.

Thanks for helping me to salvage his computer.
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PostPosted: Mon 13 Apr 2009, 10:01    Post subject:  

updated Taxi-xfwm_411.sfs:

- added 15 xfwm themes and 16 new backgrounds from Inga Nielsen http://www.gatetonowhere.de/gallery/categories.php?cat_id=2.
Please note, that these background are free for personal, but not for commercial use!
And an entry for the desktopchooser to have the panel at bottom.

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PostPosted: Mon 13 Apr 2009, 12:14    Post subject:  

What's the trick to force a FULL installation to save its network settings, please?!
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