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#181 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Fri 03 Apr 2009, 17:38

rheya wrote:my printer doesn't work on puppy 42
I just succeeded in make it working in puppy 412 , but upgrading wasn't good for me , so I came back to puppy 412 ...
I updated not because I wasn't happy with puppy 412, but I hoped my scanner too will work in the upgrading
Maybe puppy 42 needs some more focus....
ciao
rheya

Install this file and your scanner should work
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... h&id=16777
More details about your print please and we can see what we can do with it.
ttuuxxx

pa_mcclamrock · #182 Post by **pa_mcclamrock** » Fri 03 Apr 2009, 23:27

rheya wrote:my printer doesn't work on puppy 42

How about submitting a bug report in the "Bugs (Submit bugs)" section of this forum, with details like what kind of printer you have and what you see in the CUPS error log when you've tried and failed to print?

edoc · #183 Post by **edoc** » Tue 07 Apr 2009, 23:11

I now have 4.2-Final Frugal installed on two laptops and one desktop.

Laptops are older models, a Panasonic Toughbook CF-28 and a CF-27, the desktop is assembled from parts and a few years old. Generally easy upgrades from 4.12 in all cases.

QUESTIONS:

1. GIMP still seems to not configure itself properly for a new install but I have done it manually so many times I am used to it - still not newbie-friendly.

2. My desktop refuses to accept a Linux-Swap partition. No idea why, GParted creates it but when it then tries to read it the error says it is an unknown partition type!

3. The Puppy Space thing remains a nuisance for copying large files.

4. We will get about beating on these installations and report what we discover - first impression from family members is excellent!

edoc · #184 Post by **edoc** » Thu 09 Apr 2009, 12:57

I just noticed the same problem with printing.

I am getting "cannot connect to localhost" error.

rcrsn51 · #185 Post by **rcrsn51** » Thu 09 Apr 2009, 13:28

edoc wrote:I am getting "cannot connect to localhost" error.

Have you set up a network connection? You can't get to the CUPS web interface without it.

[Edit] This is incorrect.

edoc · #186 Post by **edoc** » Thu 09 Apr 2009, 13:53

I'm not sure I understand to what network you refer.

This is a laser printer connected to the USB port of a desktop computer.

I do have an Internet connection which is working fine - is there some other network that needs to be activated for CUPS to work?

Also, what is the difference between the GTKLP and LPQ and the CUPS printer apps?

rcrsn51 · #187 Post by **rcrsn51** » Thu 09 Apr 2009, 14:07

Have a look in your /etc/hosts file. Do you have this line?

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127.0.0.1 localhost

Are you running a firewall? If so, you may need to modify it to allow access to port 631.

edoc · #188 Post by **edoc** » Thu 09 Apr 2009, 14:18

The line I have is:

127.0.0.1 localhost puppypc

Is that OK or do I need one without the "puppypc"?

rcrsn51 · #189 Post by **rcrsn51** » Thu 09 Apr 2009, 14:38

That's fine. What about the firewall?

The next thing I would try is to boot off the CD with "puppy pfix=ram" and see if you can duplicate the problem.

edoc · #190 Post by **edoc** » Thu 09 Apr 2009, 14:51

Unless 4.2 toggled on a firewall without being told to there should not be one. Where would I look, please?

CUPS was working under 4.12 on this computer and this was an upgrade - not sure why anything related to a firewall would have changed.

OK re. booting from CD with "puppy pfix-ram", just tried that, same error message.

I did have 4.2 on a laptop, also an upgrade from 4.12, and CUPS worked there without this error. Not sure why the desktop is misbehaving!

rcrsn51 · #191 Post by **rcrsn51** » Thu 09 Apr 2009, 15:06

When you booted off the CD, did you set up a network connection before you ran the CUPS wizard?

edoc · #192 Post by **edoc** » Thu 09 Apr 2009, 15:16

You mean an Internet connection or some other sort of connection?

I had an Internet connection via the Frugal install.

I just set up an Internet connection under the CD 4.2, opened the browser (working fine) then tried CUPS. Same error message.

Having an Internet connection appears unrelated to this CUPS problem.

rcrsn51 · #193 Post by **rcrsn51** » Thu 09 Apr 2009, 15:26

You're right. I checked this again and the CUPS web interface will start before you have a network connection.

When is this error occurring? Can you get the initial CUPS screen to open?

edoc · #194 Post by **edoc** » Thu 09 Apr 2009, 15:31

As soon as I click on CUPS (the Menu doesn't say CUPS, just Manage Printing) this error comes up.

I don't know if the other person having printing problems is seeing the same error.

Also, what is the purpose of the two GTK printer-related apps? Do they replace CUPS or perform some other printer-related service?

rcrsn51 · #195 Post by **rcrsn51** » Fri 10 Apr 2009, 12:06

I was finally able to reproduce your bug. I had never seen it before because I launch CUPS through Setup > CUPS Wizard or by going directly in through my browser.

The problem is with System > Manage Printing. It launches a script named killcups. This script stops the CUPS daemon, then tries to restart it. Unfortunately, the restart fails on our machines. You can check this by running the command:

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/etc/init.d/cups status

Because the CUPS daemon is not running, the CUPS web interface is also inactive, so you can't reach it from your browser.

In fact, having looked at the code in killcups, I don't understand how it could have ever worked on anyone's machine.

I don't know why the killcups command was introduced into Puppy 4.2 with CUPS 1.4 Beta. In previous versions, this procedure was handled correctly by BarryK's cups_shell script. However, this script was also modified in 4.2. See my report here.

Your solution is to run CUPS through the Wizard.

rcrsn51 · #196 Post by **rcrsn51** » Fri 10 Apr 2009, 12:40

@edoc: If you can confirm that the killcups command is the source of your problem, you should report this in the Bugs section.

edoc · #197 Post by **edoc** » Fri 10 Apr 2009, 16:22

That was it - thanks~

edoc · #198 Post by **edoc** » Fri 10 Apr 2009, 18:01

Is there a 4.2-Minimalist version?

4.2 is running better than any prior version on our old Panasonic Toughbook CF-27 but we could do without several of the larger apps like Seamonkey, Abiword, etc.

Dillo would be OK, the children don't use this laptop for E-mail and only rarely for Internet.

Geany is OK, it has printing - otherwise Leafpad would be OK, Abiword is overkill for their purposes.

Rather than an entirely different release just a 4.2-Max, 4.2-Reg., and 4.2-Mini

I thought there was a plan for this ... or did it happen and I missed it?

WDYT?

edoc · #199 Post by **edoc** » Fri 10 Apr 2009, 20:26

I was trying to copy a PET file from a USB stick to my HDD and for some reason the old laptop froze and had to be cold-rebooted.

I am now getting a pop-up with the following message:

Error saving /root/.config/rox.sourceforge.net/ROX-Filer/globicons: Stale NFS file handle

Even if I close the window it appears to be preventing a copy from a USB stick to the HDD.

Any idea what this message means and how to deal with it?

Ray MK · #200 Post by **Ray MK** » Fri 10 Apr 2009, 21:15

Hi edoc

Have a look at TurboPup 42 alpha3a - it flies.

Or ttuuxxx's Puppies42v2 - (no bling) - v.fast

The stale NFS file handle suggest's a corrupt system file - soloution - e2fsck
That should sort it.

Best regards - Ray

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