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puppyiso


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PostPosted: Sat 04 Apr 2009, 19:45    Post_subject: Dying to  

Reading all this replies, I am dying to see the alpha 3. Hopefuly the final release will come out soon. But please don't rush. Even if everybody is chanting, cooking takes time. Don't make half baked cookies.

Because my old desktops are making too much noise and my poor wife has to listen to that terrible noise right next to me all day everyday, I decided to buy a quite netbook soon. As you know, netbooks are less powered than regular notebooks not to mention desktops.

I really need something light, fast and stable. So I am looking for faster, leaner and meaner puppy. The name"Turbo" is really enticing.

I appreciate you doing great job making Turbopup. Among other candidates, Turbo is most anticipated.

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PostPosted: Sat 04 Apr 2009, 20:38    Post_subject:  

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Because my old desktops are making noise


I recommend to try such fans, very cheap:
http://www.kmelektronik.de/main_site/prod_detail/detail.php?ArtNr=14441&Shop=0

They make even less noise than a 12 Euro fan from Enermax, though that one was not loud, either.

I removed the original fan from the CPU-cooler (Athlon 5050, 2x2.6 ghz).
Do not remove the whole cooler, just the fan.
Then I tied the new cooler on it with some metal wire, like it is used as a cord around new cables you buy, or that come with you computer.
The wire is surrounded by plastic.
You cannot use screws or "clip" the fan on the cooler, as the new fan was designed as case cooler.
But with some wire it works well.
I attached the wire on the clip, that presses the metal cooler onto the mainboard/processor.

Now my computer is almost unhearable.
I also use 2 such coolers (without pwm) on my Ati Radeon 4800 card:
http://www.kmelektronik.de/main_site/prod_detail/detail.php?ArtNr=14440&Shop=0
I attached them with wire on such a passive cooler:
http://www.kmelektronik.de/main_site/prod_detail/detail.php?ArtNr=16284&Shop=0
They are powered with 7 volt, I described details here:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=38099

Although that card uses a lot of power and so would become extremely hot and burn through without cooler, the computer now is almost unhearable.
The original fan was louder than old desktop cpu coolers.

A very cheap way to get a silent computer Smile
On old systems, the loudest part now might be your harddrive, so you might want to replace that, too. The IDE drives in my old Pentium 700 they were very loud, the sata drive in my new desktop is very quiet.
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synth


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PostPosted: Sun 05 Apr 2009, 00:10    Post_subject:  

Turbopup Alpha 3 (WIP) changelog:

see first post

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Wowie

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PostPosted: Sun 05 Apr 2009, 01:40    Post_subject:    

Hi there, been using Puppy for a while in some old PCs I've got, and I'm extremely interested in Turbo-Puppy for this ancient Pentium II Thinkpad I found, however it only has 90 MB of RAM, do you think that Alpha 3 and later versions will be able to run entirely on RAM?

I'm willing to bribe you with a nice custom logo and wallpapers for Turbo Puppy Wink (I'll probably will get bored and do them anyway xD)
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puppyiso


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PostPosted: Sun 05 Apr 2009, 05:01    Post_subject: Matter of fan change.  

Long ago, I got interested in fanless ITX boards. Even though they were made in Taiwan and have sales offices in mainland China, I couldn't see them in the market.

That time my old computers were making real loud screaming sound. I had to bang them to be a little less louder. Eventually took them out.

Now those computers have only CPU fans. They started to make noise.

The fans Mark is talking about is available in Chinese market. I just never thought using reular fan for CPU.

I will try them onto the desktops.. Thanks, Mark.
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ttuuxxx


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Location: Ontario Canada,Sydney Australia

PostPosted: Sun 05 Apr 2009, 06:04    Post_subject:  

When buying video cards, I always purchase the fanless ones, that will reduce the noise by a lot by default and you don't have to worry about the fan on the card dying and so does your graphics card if you don't catch it in time:)
Then the power supplies usually I read the specs and find the ones with lowest db rate, that really lowers the noise, todays CPU fans that come with with am2 cpu's don't hardly make a noise, so thats good, I would say my current pc is 1/10 the noise compared to a new pc in the mid 90's.
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PostPosted: Sun 05 Apr 2009, 11:38    Post_subject:  

Maybe I missed something (though I did see a screenshot from an eeepc 701), is this release eee-pc compatible? That is, does it have the drivers and stuff needed for eee-pc's (and aspire one's) to use wifi, acpi, etc?

This would be so cool to have on a netbook like those. It will make the netbook faster than most people's desktops, I'm sure!

Edit: I found some drivers for 4.1... maybe they will work with TurboPup 4.2?

Oh, one more thing. How does one enable or get pwidgets back? That's one piece of eye-candy/bloat I simply can't do without. Very Happy
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synth


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PostPosted: Sun 05 Apr 2009, 12:58    Post_subject:  

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Oh, one more thing. How does one enable or get pwidgets back? That's one piece of eye-candy/bloat I simply can't do without. Very Happy


Just select 'Desktop -> Pwidgets' from the main menu and enable the widgets (File -> Stop/Start Pwidgets)
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PostPosted: Sun 05 Apr 2009, 14:54    Post_subject:  

First post updated.
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ComputerBob


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PostPosted: Sun 05 Apr 2009, 21:50    Post_subject:  

Is Alpha 3 still a work in progress, or can we download it from somewhere now?
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PostPosted: Sun 05 Apr 2009, 22:12    Post_subject:  

Still a WIP (see changelog)

~90% done.
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PostPosted: Sun 05 Apr 2009, 23:26    Post_subject:  

Cool! Thanks!
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PostPosted: Mon 06 Apr 2009, 01:08    Post_subject:  

Alpha 3 status: ~95% done. Changelog updated Wink
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PostPosted: Mon 06 Apr 2009, 01:33    Post_subject:  

Alpha3 is uploading right now Wink
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PostPosted: Mon 06 Apr 2009, 10:44    Post_subject:  

So far I have played with alpha 1 and 2 both looking good, nice and quick too. Keep up the good work Synth. I particular like the changelog, its interesting learning the sorts of things you go about changing to make improvements. I especially liked the entryy:
"- Less crap,more speed" Smile

With regards to updating my turbopup, am I right in thinking that if I already have a frugal install of turbopup then to install a new version all I have to do is create a LiveUSB with new release, boot from LiveUSB and then copy
initrd.gz
pup_xxx.sfs (whatever the new version is called)
vmlinuz
from USB to frugal root and thats it?
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