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#21 Post by ComputerBob »

Fantastic! Thank you very much! I can't wait to take it to work and try it out later this morning!
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#22 Post by synth »

Alpha 2 runs even better - see first post for the updated HTop screenshot.

Coming soon - Turbopup Alpha 3 with more fixes and tweaks

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#23 Post by playdayz »

Cool deal Synth. I bet it *is* faster than a greyhound because you have pared it down further and more carefully. One thing I noticed in making the greyhounds is that blackbox is no faster (or lighter) than jwm. I think that applies to all the *boxes. Blackbox does have its own kind of elegance but I am back to using jwm myself. JWM always says Puppy to me.

What I am doing now is preparing a puppy desktop for my big machine, that uses the big memory plus the lessons learned in creating the greyhounds to create a desktop that is both full-featured and extremely responsive. Just think, if you have 4G then you could run a 600 MB Puppy in ram and never even miss the memory. Another thing I have found is that if you have a fast sata 3.0 hard disk then running from /mnt/home (that is, from the hard disk) is as fast as running from memory (this works for some programs including OpenOffice and Firefox but not for all).

There is one point about the greyhounds that might still make them interesting even after your TurboPup, in that they are pets (rather than iso's) that can be installed and removed easily so that people can check them out and then return to their regular Puppy easily. Of course, they could just boot your TurboPup CD pfix=ram to check it out. without doing anything permanent.

The two greyhounds: http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 88&t=34474
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 88&t=33652

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#24 Post by ComputerBob »

I did a frugal install of Turbopup 4.2 Alpha 2 this morning, and then installed ttuuxxx's xsane 0.996 .pet.

Wow! Turbopup runs great on that Pentium II -266 with only 160 MB of RAM. And the new xsane runs great, too. On each startup, xsane warns me that it's dangerous to run it as ROOT, but then it works exactly like it should, and it only takes 3-4 seconds to save each of my scanned images to /mnt/home, instead of the 30 seconds that it took to save each of those same scanned images in the normal Puppy 4.12 and 4.2.

On that PC's desktop, with no apps running, htop is currently showing the following:

CPU: 1.3%
Mem: 19/154MB
Swap: 0/298MB

Tasks: 11 total, 1 running
Load average: 0.07 0.02 0.00
Uptime: 03:24:02

I haven't enabled any background services, since that PC is only used for scanning images, so it doesn't use networking or a printer.
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#25 Post by synth »

Alpha 3 will use even less resources and boot faster ;)

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#26 Post by Ray MK »

Hi synth

Love what you've done so far - can't wait for Alpha3.

Many thanks indeed for TurboPup - Super stuff.

Best regards - Ray

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#27 Post by synth »

Dingo wrote:linked and mirrored on dokupuppy also

http://puppylover.netsons.org/dokupuppy ... s:turbopup
Please update the description and download link @ Dokupuppy. Alpha1 is old, buggy stuff :)
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#28 Post by synth »

Turbopup Alpha 3 uses even less resources :)
See first post for the updated Htop screenshot.

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#29 Post by yim »

hey guys, just dropping a few lines in regards to your turbopup. I burnt a copy this evening and tried to do a frugal install on usb flash drive and the universal installer craps out saying that pup_420.sfs is missing. I think something needs to be changed in the installer to recognize pup_420turbo.sfs. Just thought it might be helpful for alpha 3.

yim

Oh , and ttuuxxx, if you see this I also had the same problem with you no bling version of 4.2.

Don't want to speak out of turn here, so if I'm doing something wrong please let me know.

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#30 Post by yim »

In reference to my last post, I spoke before I saw this was already reported, sorry for doubling the issue.

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 8&start=15

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#31 Post by puppyiso »

Reading all this replies, I am dying to see the alpha 3. Hopefuly the final release will come out soon. But please don't rush. Even if everybody is chanting, cooking takes time. Don't make half baked cookies.

Because my old desktops are making too much noise and my poor wife has to listen to that terrible noise right next to me all day everyday, I decided to buy a quite netbook soon. As you know, netbooks are less powered than regular notebooks not to mention desktops.

I really need something light, fast and stable. So I am looking for faster, leaner and meaner puppy. The name"Turbo" is really enticing.

I appreciate you doing great job making Turbopup. Among other candidates, Turbo is most anticipated.
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#32 Post by MU »

Because my old desktops are making noise
I recommend to try such fans, very cheap:
http://www.kmelektronik.de/main_site/pr ... 441&Shop=0

They make even less noise than a 12 Euro fan from Enermax, though that one was not loud, either.

I removed the original fan from the CPU-cooler (Athlon 5050, 2x2.6 ghz).
Do not remove the whole cooler, just the fan.
Then I tied the new cooler on it with some metal wire, like it is used as a cord around new cables you buy, or that come with you computer.
The wire is surrounded by plastic.
You cannot use screws or "clip" the fan on the cooler, as the new fan was designed as case cooler.
But with some wire it works well.
I attached the wire on the clip, that presses the metal cooler onto the mainboard/processor.

Now my computer is almost unhearable.
I also use 2 such coolers (without pwm) on my Ati Radeon 4800 card:
http://www.kmelektronik.de/main_site/pr ... 440&Shop=0
I attached them with wire on such a passive cooler:
http://www.kmelektronik.de/main_site/pr ... 284&Shop=0
They are powered with 7 volt, I described details here:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=38099

Although that card uses a lot of power and so would become extremely hot and burn through without cooler, the computer now is almost unhearable.
The original fan was louder than old desktop cpu coolers.

A very cheap way to get a silent computer :)
On old systems, the loudest part now might be your harddrive, so you might want to replace that, too. The IDE drives in my old Pentium 700 they were very loud, the sata drive in my new desktop is very quiet.
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#33 Post by synth »

Turbopup Alpha 3 (WIP) changelog:

see first post
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#34 Post by Wowie »

Hi there, been using Puppy for a while in some old PCs I've got, and I'm extremely interested in Turbo-Puppy for this ancient Pentium II Thinkpad I found, however it only has 90 MB of RAM, do you think that Alpha 3 and later versions will be able to run entirely on RAM?

I'm willing to bribe you with a nice custom logo and wallpapers for Turbo Puppy :wink: (I'll probably will get bored and do them anyway xD)

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Matter of fan change.

#35 Post by puppyiso »

Long ago, I got interested in fanless ITX boards. Even though they were made in Taiwan and have sales offices in mainland China, I couldn't see them in the market.

That time my old computers were making real loud screaming sound. I had to bang them to be a little less louder. Eventually took them out.

Now those computers have only CPU fans. They started to make noise.

The fans Mark is talking about is available in Chinese market. I just never thought using reular fan for CPU.

I will try them onto the desktops.. Thanks, Mark.

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#36 Post by ttuuxxx »

When buying video cards, I always purchase the fanless ones, that will reduce the noise by a lot by default and you don't have to worry about the fan on the card dying and so does your graphics card if you don't catch it in time:)
Then the power supplies usually I read the specs and find the ones with lowest db rate, that really lowers the noise, todays CPU fans that come with with am2 cpu's don't hardly make a noise, so thats good, I would say my current pc is 1/10 the noise compared to a new pc in the mid 90's.
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#37 Post by gabe »

Maybe I missed something (though I did see a screenshot from an eeepc 701), is this release eee-pc compatible? That is, does it have the drivers and stuff needed for eee-pc's (and aspire one's) to use wifi, acpi, etc?

This would be so cool to have on a netbook like those. It will make the netbook faster than most people's desktops, I'm sure!

Edit: I found some drivers for 4.1... maybe they will work with TurboPup 4.2?

Oh, one more thing. How does one enable or get pwidgets back? That's one piece of eye-candy/bloat I simply can't do without. :D

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#38 Post by synth »

Oh, one more thing. How does one enable or get pwidgets back? That's one piece of eye-candy/bloat I simply can't do without. :D
Just select 'Desktop -> Pwidgets' from the main menu and enable the widgets (File -> Stop/Start Pwidgets)

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#39 Post by synth »

First post updated.

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#40 Post by ComputerBob »

Is Alpha 3 still a work in progress, or can we download it from somewhere now?
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