Puppy Linux Discussion Forum

raffy · Joined: 25 May 2005 Posts: 4812 Location: Manila

Puppy Linux has always been a serious contender for the PC desktop, although a number of enthusiasts like to refer to version 1.03 as the beginning of a very usable and stable Puppy. In July, the release of version 1.04 that included Open Office further boosted Puppy's popularity. By the start of October, it became the featured Linux distribution at distrowatch.com, and is constantly earning praises up to this day.

People who are no longer writing praises for Puppy are actively contributing to its development and promotion, and are visible in the many Puppy pages. In November, Puppy's creator Barry Kauler founded a new home for Puppy and its new organization, the Puppy Linux Foundation. The many sites devoted to Puppy are now indexed at pupweb.org, where Barry is also keeping his diary of Puppy's development. News about the Puppy community is always updated at the Puppy Wiki.

The feverish activities for Puppy are therefore literally everywhere, and this seeming focus on work by the enthusiasts may impress on readers that people are missing fun with Puppy. The truth is of course the opposite - people tend to miss the bigger fun around them as working with Puppy is fun in itself!

So before we forget, let us remember the upcoming occasions and greet each other MERRY CHRISTMAS AND HAPPY NEW YEAR!

Pizzasgood · Posted: Wed 21 Dec 2005, 00:12 Post subject:

MU · Posted: Wed 21 Dec 2005, 00:14 Post subject:

Hey Pizza, wish you lot of fun there Smile

Looking forward to read you again in january Smile

HAPPY CHRISTMAS and lots of bones for all puppians!

Mark

Lobster · Posted: Wed 21 Dec 2005, 00:28 Post subject:

BarryK · Posted: Wed 21 Dec 2005, 05:32 Post subject:

Yeah guys, have fun.
See the Developer News for December 21st, re Puppy Xmas pressie.

pakt · Joined: 04 Jun 2005 Posts: 1092 Location: Sweden

edoc · Posted: Wed 21 Dec 2005, 11:42 Post subject:

BarryK · Posted: Wed 21 Dec 2005, 20:46 Post subject:

Good question.
My router has a DHCP server, so no need for Roaring Penguin.

Maybe someone can explain to me in simple terms also, why RP PPPOE is used?
I think G2 did post something about this in another thread.

GuestToo · Puppy Master Joined: 04 May 2005 Posts: 4078

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PPPoE

dialup uses Point to Point Protocol (PPP)
you need some sort of protocol (standard way of connecting 2 computers)

dsl can use a diirect (bridge) connection, or it can use pppoe (Point to Point Protocol Over Ethernet)

a bridge connection doesn't need an id or password

PPPOE is just like dialup ... you connect with an id and password

Roaring Penguin handles the connection ... it sends the id and password to the isp's computer (through your ethernet card which connects to the dsl modem) and sets up the connection

some dsl modems connect to your computer through the usb port instead of an ethernet card ... usb modems require software drivers and are not as easy to work with

if you have a router, it can setup and maintain the PPPOE connection instead of your computer having to do it ... the router will have the equivalent of Roaring Penguin running in the router ... in fact, routers are small computers with a cpu and ram ... you tell the router your id and password and it automatically connects to your isp using PPPOE when it's turned on

a router usually has a built in firewall ... the router probably has dhcp, which will automatically give your ethernet card an ip address, usually something like 192.168.0.2 ... you don't need to have or use dhcp, you can configure a static ip address yourself (the ethernet's ip address is not the same as your external internet address)

a router is the easiest way to connect to dsl using PPPOE ... just type in the id and password, and maybe the name of your isp ... and its all connected ... many live cd's will automatically setup an internet connection through your ethernet card when they boot ... with Puppy, you just click the ethernet wizard and Configure Eth0 using DHCP

if you have a dsl modem but no router, you have to tell Roaring Penguin your id and password and use it to connect to your isp ... you can't use the Roaring Penguin firewall, it's based on ipchains (i guess /etc/ppp/firewall-standalone could be a symlink to the morizot firewall) ... a router usually has it's own firewall in the router

GuestToo · Puppy Master Joined: 04 May 2005 Posts: 4078

Flash · Posted: Wed 21 Dec 2005, 23:21 Post subject:

Thanks, G2. That was very clearly written except for one thing:

GuestToo · Puppy Master Joined: 04 May 2005 Posts: 4078

advantages of a router:

it has a built in firewall
a firewall in the compter's operating system is more likely to be attcked by a virus or disabled if the operating system is corrupted or misconfigured

a router has a built in hub or switch, so you have an "instant" LAN (local area network ... you can connect 4 computers or more together through your router)

each computer connected to your router has an internet connection ... a direct connection to the internet through an ethernet card is trivially easy to setup (most Linux live cd's do it automatically when the cd boots)

once the router is configured (usually by typing your id and password on a web page), whenever you turn on the router, it automatically connects to your isp and stays connected

GuestToo · Puppy Master Joined: 04 May 2005 Posts: 4078

Flash · Posted: Thu 22 Dec 2005, 00:12 Post subject:

Thanks. I guess that explains the two IP numbers that I get when I run ipconfig in a Windows 2000 command console. (I have an internal, PCI card, cable modem which the computer sees as an ethernet card.)

raffy · Joined: 25 May 2005 Posts: 4812 Location: Manila

PCs connected to the internet use IP addresses, but some IP addresses are reserved for local networks, like 192.168.X.X and 10.0.X.X, the "internal" addresses, following G2's terminology.