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ComputerBob · Posted: Thu 02 Apr 2009, 11:07 Post subject:

Thank you!

I've got Alpha 2 now, but I'm interested in Turbopup because normal Puppy's Xsane takes a full 30 seconds to save each image that I scan on a Pentium II -266 MHz PC with 160 MB of RAM, so I'm hoping that Turbopup will save files faster. For security reasons, that PC has no Internet.

Unfortunately, Alpha 2 is giving me the same problem that is described in this other thread:

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=40701

I don't want to scan images into Gimp. I don't even want to have Gimp on that PC. I just want to scan images and save them without having to wait 30 seconds for each save.

ttuuxxx · Posted: Thu 02 Apr 2009, 11:14 Post subject:

ComputerBob · Posted: Thu 02 Apr 2009, 12:17 Post subject:

Thanks for the simple solution, ttuuxxx. Wink

Since that PC doesn't have any Internet, I can't use the puppy package manager to download anything onto it. Do you know if there's a .pet of xsane .9.5.5 patched (that's what I need, right?), or some other xsane .9.5.5 file that I can download onto a different PC and then copy onto that Pentium II in order to install it?

EDIT: I found some xsane .pet files at
http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/puppylinux/pet_packages-4/

There is an xsane-0.995-patched1.pet and an xsane-0.996-i386.pet file there. I have to leave right now, but when I have time, should I try one or both of those?

ttuuxxx · Posted: Thu 02 Apr 2009, 12:53 Post subject:

ttuuxxx · Posted: Thu 02 Apr 2009, 13:15 Post subject:

ComputerBob · Posted: Fri 03 Apr 2009, 08:13 Post subject:

Fantastic! Thank you very much! I can't wait to take it to work and try it out later this morning!

synth · Joined: 18 Mar 2009 Posts: 210

Alpha 2 runs even better - see first post for the updated HTop screenshot.

Coming soon - Turbopup Alpha 3 with more fixes and tweaks

playdayz · Joined: 25 Apr 2008 Posts: 3705

Cool deal Synth. I bet it *is* faster than a greyhound because you have pared it down further and more carefully. One thing I noticed in making the greyhounds is that blackbox is no faster (or lighter) than jwm. I think that applies to all the *boxes. Blackbox does have its own kind of elegance but I am back to using jwm myself. JWM always says Puppy to me.

What I am doing now is preparing a puppy desktop for my big machine, that uses the big memory plus the lessons learned in creating the greyhounds to create a desktop that is both full-featured and extremely responsive. Just think, if you have 4G then you could run a 600 MB Puppy in ram and never even miss the memory. Another thing I have found is that if you have a fast sata 3.0 hard disk then running from /mnt/home (that is, from the hard disk) is as fast as running from memory (this works for some programs including OpenOffice and Firefox but not for all).

There is one point about the greyhounds that might still make them interesting even after your TurboPup, in that they are pets (rather than iso's) that can be installed and removed easily so that people can check them out and then return to their regular Puppy easily. Of course, they could just boot your TurboPup CD pfix=ram to check it out. without doing anything permanent.

The two greyhounds: http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?search_id=976194388&t=34474
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?search_id=976194388&t=33652

ComputerBob · Posted: Fri 03 Apr 2009, 15:55 Post subject:

I did a frugal install of Turbopup 4.2 Alpha 2 this morning, and then installed ttuuxxx's xsane 0.996 .pet.

Wow! Turbopup runs great on that Pentium II -266 with only 160 MB of RAM. And the new xsane runs great, too. On each startup, xsane warns me that it's dangerous to run it as ROOT, but then it works exactly like it should, and it only takes 3-4 seconds to save each of my scanned images to /mnt/home, instead of the 30 seconds that it took to save each of those same scanned images in the normal Puppy 4.12 and 4.2.

On that PC's desktop, with no apps running, htop is currently showing the following:

CPU: 1.3%
Mem: 19/154MB
Swap: 0/298MB

Tasks: 11 total, 1 running
Load average: 0.07 0.02 0.00
Uptime: 03:24:02

I haven't enabled any background services, since that PC is only used for scanning images, so it doesn't use networking or a printer.

synth · Joined: 18 Mar 2009 Posts: 210

Alpha 3 will use even less resources and boot faster Wink

Ray MK · Joined: 05 Feb 2008 Posts: 669 Location: UK

Hi synth

Love what you've done so far - can't wait for Alpha3.

Many thanks indeed for TurboPup - Super stuff.

Best regards - Ray

synth · Joined: 18 Mar 2009 Posts: 210

synth · Joined: 18 Mar 2009 Posts: 210

Turbopup Alpha 3 uses even less resources Smile

See first post for the updated Htop screenshot.

yim · Joined: 01 Sep 2007 Posts: 165 Location: Blue Ridge Mtns

hey guys, just dropping a few lines in regards to your turbopup. I burnt a copy this evening and tried to do a frugal install on usb flash drive and the universal installer craps out saying that pup_420.sfs is missing. I think something needs to be changed in the installer to recognize pup_420turbo.sfs. Just thought it might be helpful for alpha 3.

yim

Oh , and ttuuxxx, if you see this I also had the same problem with you no bling version of 4.2.

Don't want to speak out of turn here, so if I'm doing something wrong please let me know.

yim · Joined: 01 Sep 2007 Posts: 165 Location: Blue Ridge Mtns

In reference to my last post, I spoke before I saw this was already reported, sorry for doubling the issue.

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=40698&start=15

yim