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Puppies 4.2 Deeper Thought :)

#1 Post by ttuuxxx »

Well I did promise a no Bling version of puppy 4.2. This one starts faster, refresh faster, and would be more stable due to the upgrades in some scripts.
removed:
-Pwidgets
-Ptray
-Icewm
-flat orange menu icons
-flat black icon theme
-133 new system links in /root/my-applications/bin

Installed/upgraded
-upgraded freememory applet to the better working one.
-installed 3 tiny games X-soldier, Classic Breakout, X-Invaders-3D
-reverted back a few scripts, improved a few scripts with the way they handle system taskbar monitors.
-removed restart with Icewm from the shutdown, since its gone.
-Added flac plugin for alsa player :) That should really improve the audio capabilities :)

This wasn't a remaster, I basically hand edited the pup_420.sfs file itself. What a process :wink: worked on it day and night since 4.2 was released.
so here it is.
http://www.puppylinux.asia/tpp/ttuuxxx/ ... monkey.iso

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you'll probably have to type it twice :)

And below is a screenshot of what the default desktop looks like, its a mixture of 'Deep Thought' and 'L'orange' Themes plus a couple of extra icons :)

Enjoy
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http://audio.online-convert.com/ <-- excellent site
http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/A-codecs/ <-- Codec Test Files
http://html5games.com/ <-- excellent HTML5 games :)

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#2 Post by 01micko »

One question.... iso size? (Well I could go to .ca and find out but...)
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#3 Post by ttuuxxx »

01micko wrote:One question.... iso size? (Well I could go to .ca and find out but...)
Its about the same size, 99MB its the compression of the sfs which compresses more than tar.gz or pets. But the overall install size is about 1.5 MB smaller
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http://audio.online-convert.com/ <-- excellent site
http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/A-codecs/ <-- Codec Test Files
http://html5games.com/ <-- excellent HTML5 games :)

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#4 Post by ecomoney »

It just goes to show with open source you can have your cake and eat it. :-)

There was obviously a demand for this amongst more seasoned puppiers, This keeps them happy, while new users can still have their "bling" and usability....so they have more chance of becoming seasoned puppiers.

Im all for this being put on the main release page as an option, even though I was in the "pro-bling" camp for the main release.

Is there a "blingfree-retro edition"? Useful for those die-hard 486'ers
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#5 Post by ttuuxxx »

ecomoney wrote:It just goes to show with open source you can have your cake and eat it. :-)

There was obviously a demand for this amongst more seasoned puppiers, This keeps them happy, while new users can still have their "bling" and usability....so they have more chance of becoming seasoned puppiers.

Im all for this being put on the main release page as an option, even though I was in the "pro-bling" camp for the main release.

Is there a "blingfree-retro edition"? Useful for those die-hard 486'ers
The retro version has the bling turned off by default. Thats why I focussed on the default version, Now time for me to move back onto Dpup :)
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http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/A-codecs/ <-- Codec Test Files
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#6 Post by James C »

Good job, ttuuxxx! Those of us with underpowered equipment need something like this.Thanks....

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#7 Post by synth »

@ ttuuxxx: Check out Turbopup :D

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=40477

90% hand edited :)

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#8 Post by ttuuxxx »

synth wrote:@ ttuuxxx: Check out Turbopup :D

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=40477

90% hand edited :)
Thats cool, The version I made above is for people who wanted a default version like in the past, from series 1.0-4.12. If you want to take it even further, use my base and do the rest to it, Since I went through all the trouble of removing it all, and using previous releases parts from 4.12 etc to bring it back to a regular release, It would save you a lot of time if that was your next step, plus things like fixed menus is tweaked.
Also I see you disabled Cups, maybe make a desktop icon linked to killcups found in usr/bin, that will automatically restart it, I made that script so it would restart cups if users had issues with freezing, if they upgrade printers etc that way they don't have to restart the pc :)
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ttuuxxx wrote:
01micko wrote:One question.... iso size? (Well I could go to .ca and find out but...)
Its about the same size, 99MB its the compression of the sfs which compresses more than tar.gz or pets. But the overall install size is about 1.5 MB smaller
ttuuxxx
Thanks! I'm downloading it right now. I'm looking forward to it being noticeably faster and more stable than 4.2, even though 1.5 MB isn't a significant size difference.

Any tests yet of Puppies' memory and CPU usage compared to "normal" 4.2?

EDIT: And what's its md5sum?
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#10 Post by ttuuxxx »

ComputerBob wrote:
ttuuxxx wrote:
01micko wrote:One question.... iso size? (Well I could go to .ca and find out but...)
Its about the same size, 99MB its the compression of the sfs which compresses more than tar.gz or pets. But the overall install size is about 1.5 MB smaller
ttuuxxx
Thanks! I'm downloading it right now. I'm looking forward to it being noticeably faster and more stable than 4.2, even though 1.5 MB isn't a significant size difference.

Any tests yet of Puppies' memory and CPU usage compared to "normal" 4.2?
Naa I can't do those test right, my pc's are too new, like this one is 4 gigs of ddr2 800 ram. So it usuallys shows like 3.6% being used by seamonkey and 1.2% by gimp and the cpu is less. Have a look below.
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#11 Post by shand »

thanks a lot

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#12 Post by pupshock »

ttuuxxx wrote: The retro version has the bling turned off by default.
ttuuxxx
I dont understand.
I have retro 4.2., and it does have the 'bling':
Pwidgets, Ptray, icewm, that i can see.
I dont know what processes you refer to as "turned off by default".

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#13 Post by rjbrewer »

Looks cleaner!

Boots faster!

Love it!

Thanks ttuuxxx!

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#14 Post by Béèm »

When I look in HTOP (or is it top) on my 1GB PC,I also have 4 entries for Seamonkey. Are this really 4 separate processes and do they each use the amount of ram as advertised in the png?
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#15 Post by ttuuxxx »

Béèm wrote:When I look in HTOP (or is it top) on my 1GB PC,I also have 4 entries for Seamonkey. Are this really 4 separate processes and do they each use the amount of ram as advertised in the png?
whats the spec on it, maybe each one is for the 4 programs that make it up,
-Navigator
-Mail&Newsgroups
-Composer
-Address book

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Ps did the new homebank import those files you wanted?
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#16 Post by shand »

NOT download,below website:
http://www.puppylinux.asia/tpp/ttuuxxx/ ... monkey.iso

Any another website? thanks!

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#17 Post by ttuuxxx »

shand wrote:NOT download,below website:
http://www.puppylinux.asia/tpp/ttuuxxx/ ... monkey.iso

Any another website? thanks!
hi try this one and if that works maybe you could link it somewhere also.
http://www.mediafire.com/?enlszde0jjz
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#19 Post by ttuuxxx »

Thanks Dingo, I think that China block downloads from puppylinux.asia
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#20 Post by Caneri »

Hi ya ttuuxxx,

I have it on .ca as well here

http://puppylinux.ca/tpp/ttuuxxx/puppy420/release/

Sorry it took me so long.

Eric

EDIT: Maybe, in the future, email me when you have a final release so I don't miss it again. I've been a tad distracted lately.
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