Puppy 4.2 RC4 Deep Thought - Bugs & Fixes

[straypup]

Thanks to ttuuxxx for the blinky-freememapp. Works great on my setup even when i make mistakes (I AM trying to learn ),
Two questions,,
Is there a way to revert back to originan drop down menu for shut down?
I was just beginning to get a grip pn how to use xarchive, noe I have to learn the differencies in xarchiver. Is there a tutorial avalible anywhere.
Thanks stray

[jayargent]

@Pizzasgood:

I commented the line in xorg.conf as you instructed and now xorg works for me in both 4.1.2 and RC4. WONDERFUL!!!!

I also checked out xorgwizard.mo That file does not seem to be in 4.1.2
so I just removed the " and tested it. That fixed the "DONE" screen. I then looked at the file and figured out I needed to adjust the line lengths of the text to fix the screen previous to that. I was able to make it a lot better although still not perfect.

Thanks so much for the xorg troubleshooting lesson and the fix.

@WhoDo

Here is the file with the edited xorgwizard.mo for testing.

[Pizzasgood]

Cool. To modify /usr/sbin/xorgwizard to do that automatically, I just needed to find the following chunk of code (at about line 400 in RC4):

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    *Screen1*Right?Of*Screen0*) ALINE="#$ALINE" ;;
   esac
  fi
  # add line to section (if we've come this far...)
  TEMPSECTION="$TEMPSECTION\n\t$ALINE"
 done <<_END2
$(echo "$ASECTION" | tr '%' '\n')
_END2

And insert this after the 'fi' and before the '# add line to section':

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  #Comment out any lines for screens beside Screen0
  ALINE="$(echo "$ALINE" | sed 's/\s*Screen\s*[1-9]*\s*"Screen[1-9]"/#&/')"

So that the end result looks like this:

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    *Screen1*Right?Of*Screen0*) ALINE="#$ALINE" ;;
   esac
  fi

  #Comment out any lines for screens beside Screen0
  ALINE="$(echo "$ALINE" | sed 's/\s*Screen\s*[1-9]*\s*"Screen[1-9]"/#&/')"

  # add line to section (if we've come this far...)
  TEMPSECTION="$TEMPSECTION\n\t$ALINE"
 done <<_END2

@WhoDo: Disregard my former post about using the unpatched xorgwizard. Use the attached copy here instead. It is an updated copy of the /usr/sbin/xorgwizard from RC4. So it has had both of the patches. The effects of the first patch now won't do anything unless the user manually uncomments the second Screen line in the Server section, so they don't hurt anything. At the absolute worst case, they provide a nonfunctional template section for dual-screen users to tweak into something usable.

[technosaurus]

I have been working on integrating parts of the web desktop into the default home page... here is what I have so far
... sorry the games aren't categorized - haven't had time to work on it

[SouthPaws]

From Barry's Blog
http://www.puppylinux.com/blog/?viewDetailed=00614


Posted on 23 Mar 2009, 10:14 by kirk
Re: full-screen bug
I think HairyWill/Patriot nearly fixed it. The remaining problem is that the task bar remains visible with full-screen Flash videos.

Posted on 23 Mar 2009, 10:31 by kirk
Re: full-screen bug
Just downloaded Joe's nightly build. The Full screen bug IS fixed and the task bar problem is gone!

[ttuuxxx]

Hey WhoDo I just read that Technosaus said 'I am uploading a test for default home page replacement for 4.2' about his Puppy Web Desktop. Thats not going to be the homepage is it? Come On, we don't need another heated debate again do we, really it a dam web application, not a browser homepage, actually it could be a quick launch on the taskbar next puppy forum and puppy.ca. But theres no way that everytime you open a browser you need to look at that by default, Google is what I use and most of planet uses also. a
link on the Personal Toolbar is all we need. Or better yet what would be even way better just have a new desktop icon and have it open with /usr/local/bin/gtkmoz thats a better browser for it due to you'll have more screen viewing.
Please don't make that a default homepage. Its useless to anyone who compiles. Or anyone who actually just wants to surf the net. Its more of application then a browser homepage. Its bad enough we had to put up with Puppy's old default homepage. What about people running live? They are forced to see that every time you boot up.

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 039#287039

If you want I'll repackage it with gtmoz as backend, with menu links, I'll even go as far as to making a patch for seamonkey so it will be in the Quick launch personal toolbar. But please once again don't make it default homepage.
ttuuxxx

[ttuuxxx]

Thanks to ttuuxxx for the blinky-freememapp. Works great on my setup even when i make mistakes (I AM trying to learn ),
Two questions,,
Is there a way to revert back to originan drop down menu for shut down?
I was just beginning to get a grip pn how to use xarchive, noe I have to learn the differencies in xarchiver. Is there a tutorial avalible anywhere.
Thanks stray

Hey WhoDo Here's the Proof That my version of Blinky+Freememory is more stable on older pc's
ttuuxxx
and looks nice and clean to boot

[trio]

Hey WhoDo Here's the Proof That my version of Blinky+Freememory is more stable on older pc's
ttuuxxx
and looks nice and clean to boot

Looks better..

Another thing is that I noticed that jwm themes mostly using outlined windows? (except Deepthougth theme) ..it's very easy & more beatiful if we change that in my opinion (just a thought)..

/root/.jwm/themes/blabla-jwmrc:

<WindowStyle>
<Font>DejaVu Sans-12</Font>
<Width>3</Width>
<Height>22</Height>
<Active>
<Text>black</Text>
<Title>#FFFFFF:#CE9E84</Title>
<Corner>#9C794A</Corner>
<Outline>#bbbbbb</Outline>
</Active>
<Inactive>
<Text>black</Text>
<Title>#FFFFFF:#EED2B4</Title>
<Corner>#F7CEB5</Corner>
<Outline>white</Outline>
</Inactive>
</WindowStyle>

well maybe not all grey & white for each theme..should try which color suits best

Thanks

[panzerpuppy]

libsndfile needs an update. The latest version is 1.0.19 (March 2, 2009):

1.0.19: HUGE number of minor fixes

http://www.mega-nerd.com/libsndfile/

[panzerpuppy]

...and looks nice and clean to boot

@ttuuxxx: Your 'enhanced' blinky looks like Toys 'R Us and freememapplet is beyond ugly
The original icons looked way better.

@trio: The windows look much better with that color tweak

[ttuuxxx]

...and looks nice and clean to boot

Blinky looks like Toys 'R Us and freememapplet is an ugly black rectangle.
The original icons looked way better.

well that wasn't very nice panzypuppy lol
ttuuxxx

[Béèm]

Knowing that there is support for sata HDD's I tried 420RC4 on my Desktop (see subj description)

Install method frugal with Lin'N'Win.

The 320GB sta HDD connected internally is recognized and used to do the install.

The second 320GB HDD is insalled in a bay of the PC through a e-sata connector.
This HDD isn't seen by puppy.
Is there a way to correct this? A matter of lacking kernel support? or other?

Side question:
The sda1 is the windows drive ntfs, which contains the puppy files for boot (same setup as my laptop)
The sda5 is a data partition (vfat) which contains the pup_safe file.

Having 1GB of memory, I suppose the complete pup_420.sfs is copied to ram, as I didn't see that tit was copied to /mnt/home.
But on the desktop I have the sda1 and sda5 icons both mounted with a yellow dot.
How come the sda1 is mounted also? I don't have this on the laptop.

[WhoDo]

@WhoDo: Disregard my former post about using the unpatched xorgwizard. Use the attached copy here instead.

Got it, thanks, PG.

[WhoDo]

If you want I'll repackage it with gtmoz as backend, with menu links, I'll even go as far as to making a patch for seamonkey so it will be in the Quick launch personal toolbar. But please once again don't make it default homepage.

Relax, ttuuxxx. You're stressing for no good reason. The Puppy Web Desktop never was going to be the home page; just a link from the welcome screen and help pages.

I'd appreciate that patch for Seamonkey to add the Puppy Web Desktop as a button on the Personal Toolbar. It will be much more obvious there for those who enjoy Cloud computing. Thanks.

[WhoDo]

I have been working on integrating parts of the web desktop into the default home page... here is what I have so far
... sorry the games aren't categorized - haven't had time to work on it

I got the download, techo, but couldn't make it overlay the default desktop page. BTW, I've asked ttuuxxx to create a Seamonkey patch that will add the Puppy Web Desktop to the personal toolbar so it is right there and visible when the browser is launched.

Cheers

[WhoDo]

...and looks nice and clean to boot

@ttuuxxx: Your 'enhanced' blinky looks like Toys 'R Us and freememapplet is beyond ugly
The original icons looked way better.

Good job, panzer. You've just convinced me to use ttuuxxx's version! Anything you don't like has to be an automatic inclusion!!!

[WhoDo]

Side question:
The sda1 is the windows drive ntfs, which contains the puppy files for boot (same setup as my laptop)
The sda5 is a data partition (vfat) which contains the pup_safe file.

Having 1GB of memory, I suppose the complete pup_420.sfs is copied to ram, as I didn't see that tit was copied to /mnt/home.
But on the desktop I have the sda1 and sda5 icons both mounted with a yellow dot.
How come the sda1 is mounted also? I don't have this on the laptop.

Can't help with the e-sata setup, Béèm, but I think you've answered your own question as to why both sda1 and sda5 are shown as mounted boot (yellow dot).

sda1 has your boot files and so MUST be mounted to boot
sda5 has your pup_save file and MUST be mounted in order to retrieve your configuration at boot (psubdir= ...).

Not knowing your laptop configuration I couldn't say why this appears different but it certainly is logical as you've explained your setup.

[ttuuxxx]

...and looks nice and clean to boot

@ttuuxxx: Your 'enhanced' blinky looks like Toys 'R Us and freememapplet is beyond ugly
The original icons looked way better.

Good job, panzer. You've just convinced me to use ttuuxxx's version! Anything you don't like has to be an automatic inclusion!!!

awwwwwwwwww you made me happy WhoDo, I'm Actually starting to live JWM who would of known, especially the new release with rounded windows
Oh Ya WhoDo did you try that other thing I mentioned in a PM?
ttuuxxx

[ttuuxxx]

Hey whodo I just installed the latest version of 'Puppy Web Desktop' and well the transparent menu does not work at all, its way to distracting to see so much text, below, above, and even beside the line your trying to read. If you want me to make it solid just sy so, I'm just trying to make the seamonkey patch as a package for you.
have a look at the default settings below.



Ps also the background black text the wrong colour for a dark blue Sky, It makes it also very hard to read black on dark blue. Then The background goes light with the sand, It would be difficult to put text clearly on this sort of image, the background should be solid. Like one of those tiny stretched ones we have by default on puppy, that would do the trick.
Has anyone given any input to this project? Its the first time I've downloaded so I'm a bit surprised these things haven't been mention yet.
The application itself is excellent, jut needs a bit of work before submission.
ttuuxxx

[Béèm]

Side question:
The sda1 is the windows drive ntfs, which contains the puppy files for boot (same setup as my laptop)
The sda5 is a data partition (vfat) which contains the pup_safe file.

Having 1GB of memory, I suppose the complete pup_420.sfs is copied to ram, as I didn't see that tit was copied to /mnt/home.
But on the desktop I have the sda1 and sda5 icons both mounted with a yellow dot.
How come the sda1 is mounted also? I don't have this on the laptop.

Can't help with the e-sata setup, Béèm,

I just downloaded upup015 and installed it.
To my surprise, I can access all the partitions of the second 320GB HDD. So there is a way of supporting, but I don't know how.
Didn't look into details about unpup yet

.
but I think you've answered your own question as to why both sda1 and sda5 are shown as mounted boot (yellow dot).

sda1 has your boot files and so MUST be mounted to boot
sda5 has your pup_save file and MUST be mounted in order to retrieve your configuration at boot (psubdir= ...).

Not knowing your laptop configuration I couldn't say why this appears different but it certainly is logical as you've explained your setup.

My laptop has a ntfs partition sda1 and I use the same Lin'N'Win method. The second partition is vfat as well and is sda2.
The difference is in the memory size. The laptop has only 256MB and probably due to this the pup_420.sfs is automatically copied to /mnt/home (sda2) If this isn't done boot fails on this machine.
So I will copy by hand the pup_420.sfs to /mnt/home of the desktop (sda5)
I'll let know what happens with the yellow dot.

BTW, I don't use psubdir= in neither of the two machines.