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MU · Posted: Sat 21 Mar 2009, 03:17 Post subject:

Uploaded the new SVN version of ValaIDE.
Deleted the outdated Pets.

This is really great.
I included the syntaxfile for Genie mentioned in the blog.
This release also fixes crashes I had encountered, e.g. when opening the options dialog.

I hope I forgot no file (it uses "waf", not "make", so new2dir cannot track the installationprocess, and I must copy the files by hand).

http://dotpups.de/puppy4/dotpups/Programming/Vala/

Oh, there is a bug, when I click on "new project":

BarryK · Posted: Sat 21 Mar 2009, 04:16 Post subject:

Genie support is now in Gtksourceview:

http://puppylinux.com/blog/?viewDetailed=00609

My Genie strings page has been expanded slightly:

http://puppylinux.com/blog/?viewDetailed=00608

Lobster · Posted: Sat 21 Mar 2009, 04:24 Post subject:

Thanks Mark

Just to remind to install the gtksourcefile pet as well as the Valide one
Mark has kindly prepared
http://dotpups.de/puppy4/dotpups/Programming/Vala/

Thanks Barry for the extra string handling info
- normally I stick to string theory which I find easier . . . Cool

Mark seems very enthusiastic about genie and as an amateur programmer I like Genie a lot.

Barry is Genie living up to your expectations so far?

MU · Posted: Sat 21 Mar 2009, 04:25 Post subject:

ok, worked around this bug, uploaded a new version.
Changes:
svn/valide-read-only/libvalide/ui/
abstract-project-dialog.ui
abstract-project-dialog.glade
abstract-project-dialog.vala

In all 3 files I removed 1 occurence of:

Lobster · Posted: Sat 21 Mar 2009, 04:46 Post subject:

Mark noticed the crashing - updated the newer version

Love the choice of language Smile

and 'new project' now working

Not much more time for testing until later
A Genie IDE for Puppy - Hooray!

MU · Posted: Sat 21 Mar 2009, 05:01 Post subject:

current summary

I attach 3 screenshots, they show, how easily you now can create a new Genie project Very Happy

Download the required files here:
http://dotpups.de/puppy4/dotpups/Programming/Vala/

gtksourceview-2.0.2-i486.pet
vala-0.5.7.pet
valide-0.4-1-i686-svn-2009-03-27.pet

Puppy may already have vala-0.5.7 or gtksourceview, so you just need to install them, if the IDE does not start without them.

You can find example code in the former messages of this thread.

My first program can be downloaded here:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=40193
It has a window created with the grafical designer "Glade", and may be a good start, to create own programs using libglade.

A good introduction is Barrys page:
http://puppylinux.com/genie/

He references this page of the Genie developer, that gives further insight:
http://live.gnome.org/Genie

Both pages are important to read, as they deal with different topics.

A further "must" is:
http://valadoc.org/?
It is the "reference" showing you all commands you can use by using the supported libraries.

Especially Glib is important.
For example the string functions in Genie are the GLib functions:
http://valadoc.org/?pkg=glib-2.0&element=string
A bit difficult to find when you are new, but very essential!

Mark

Lobster · Posted: Sat 21 Mar 2009, 05:22 Post subject:

Thanks Mark

Val(a)IDE is written in Vala - that's good
Nicolas Joseph has done good Smile

Many years ago I helped in the development of an IDE
for the Curl programming language (still largely proprietary)
http://www.curl.com/products/ide/
One of the neat features was an integrated
online central repository and local repository synchronizing of code
that does not seem there at the official site . . .

Even those on dial up could go on line and upload and download and lock/unlock code they were working on at their local machine

Obviously programmers would only have on their local machines code they were interested in.

Might be a useful - might not be a priority/possibility.
However at this early stage, would be a good time . . .

Another great feature was compiling sample code that was in Help
Cool

BarryK · Posted: Sat 21 Mar 2009, 08:40 Post subject:

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Lobster · Posted: Sun 22 Mar 2009, 06:53 Post subject:

Guys

Run Valide from Puppy 4.12 for now

I was using 4.2 rc4 and had renamed the devxx from dev4.12 to dev420
(you need the gcc compiler) and was running into problems. Embarassed

Things seem better now - will report back how I get on.
Maybe even some working code samples (that is the plan) Smile

A good place to start is with Geany (the editor) to edit
and Barrys excellent help pages.

Barry will be providing Valide in Woof alpha3 (available soon)
The sooner you get involved, the sooner I can learn something useful
- yep my motives are completely mercenary . . . Cool

Big Bass and others please provide any sample code and new discoveries (do not be embarrassed)

We are at programming cutting edge.
How exciting!
Let's stay sharp.

BarryK · Posted: Sun 22 Mar 2009, 19:56 Post subject:

Any editor that uses Gtksourceview has has color syntax highlighting for both Vala and Genie.

That includes TEA, Medit and Gedit.

For Puppy4 uses, MU has posted packages to go with my Gedit package, that works in Newyearspup, probably should work in 4.1.2 and 4.2:

http://puppylinux.com/blog/?viewDetailed=00619

My TEA pet package was compiled in 4.1.2 so will definitely work in it. But see my blog posts about annoyances with TEA.

Lobster · Posted: Sun 22 Mar 2009, 21:27 Post subject:

Hi guys here is the imt sample code Smile

(Shadow did all the work - I made tea)

once run and compiled
run from the command line
like so

imt "in"
where "in" is the text you want your monkeys to try and type
Please be aware that adding a piece of text like 'in the beg"
may mean the IMT program may have to run for days . . .

big_bass · Joined: 13 Aug 2007 Posts: 1736

Hey Lobster

Lobster · Posted: Mon 23 Mar 2009, 11:56 Post subject:

Anybody tried adding time?
Is this the right place to look?

http://valadoc.org/?pkg=glib-2.0&element=GLib.Time

. . . is something like this right?