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#21 Post by Mr. Maxwell »

But the laptop I wanted to boot it off of did not have USB booting ability. Puppy does not work on my other 2 computers so it does not matter.
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#22 Post by rjbrewer »

Let me reiterate.

Neither my laptop or pc has usb booting. It does not make a
difference.
Using wakepup2 floppy or the cd-puppy pmedia=usbflash
is all it takes to boot the flashdrive

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#23 Post by rjbrewer »

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#24 Post by Mr. Maxwell »

But I use GRUB to boot puppy off of my hard drive, this way I only need one boot disk. Since I never use my floppy drive it just stays in there and never leaves. Wakepup2 does not boot ext* partitions so I have to use GRUB.

BTW I just figured out you cannot have more than one bootable Puppy partitions on one flash drive.

EDIT:

Actually you can but you just get the "Type a number to choose which personal file to use:" prompt. Same thing as if you put it all on one partition.
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#25 Post by rjbrewer »

Yes; I discovered the problem with trying to boot multiple
puppies off flash yesterday. Maybe there's a workaround.

It's fine that your method is working for you; but it negates
one of the nicest attributes of a flash drive install, "portability".
So I wouldn't recommend it except in very rare cases.

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#26 Post by rjbrewer »

Created a couple small fat32 partitions and 1 large ext 3
partition on flash drive. Installed 2 different Pups on first 2
parts..

Did not make Pup-save files. Deleted boot flags.
Each Pup boots from the cd it was created from using
puppy pmedia=usbflash. Ext.3 is used as save file.

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#27 Post by ecomoney »

I want to make a liveCD that is bootable into puppy 4.2, geexbox and DBAN. Is this doable with one of these methods?
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#28 Post by d4p »

I want to make a liveCD that is bootable into puppy 4.2, geexbox and DBAN. Is this doable with one of these methods?
You can find the file multiboot_cd_dvd.tar.gz at
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 7197fa52c9

I used BCDW for a multiboot cd/dvd. It is difficult but possible to combine both linux & windoz.

This is the basic idea how to geexbox/puppy (geexbox on usb using grub also)
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 38a171c82b

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#29 Post by rjbrewer »

Ummm...

This idea of including Dariks Boot & Nuke in a multi-iso cd ,
has potentially hilarious repercussions.

Please keep us informed of any long term consequences.

ha ha ha

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#30 Post by ecomoney »

Thanks guys for the links, its my "business" day today, but I will give them a try tonight when I get in.
Please keep us informed of any long term consequences.
Dban is what we use for sanitizing the hard disks of the computers my business collects for refurbishment and redistribution with either puppy for desktop/laptops or geexbox for media centres. This is just for my own personal install toolkit.

The only long term consequence I can think of is a drop in Micro$ofts enormous profits...something I definitely predict. 8)
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#31 Post by gerry »

@rcrsn51 your advice for the grub-install package is not quite right.


Where you run the grub simulator, and enter "find /boot/marker I got an error message to say that grub could not find it. I tried it on a Debian install on another machine, and that didn't find it either.

So I googled it- and found that it is not often used. So I ignored the message, and all went well.

EDIT: I'm wrong. I managed to lose it, it's part of the grub-install package.

EDIT: without the marker, which is intended to make sure that you put grub in the right place, BE CAREFUL

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#32 Post by d4p »

I just integrated plop boot manager into my multiboot dvd.
Wow, plop is the most advanced multi-purpose boot manager ever.
It can boot/wake up many OS's: linux, windows, bootable image, and also usb without bios support. http://www.plop.at/en/bootmanager.html

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#33 Post by MikeMT »

Puppy Linux 4.2 retro on USB

Two problems with booting USB.

1st.
Because my computer does not boot from a USB drive, I have been booting Puppy with a WakePup2 floppy, which works great. For faster and quieter booting, I wanted to boot puppy with a CD. I thought pupboot.zip would be my ticket. I downloaded the zip and unpacked it. Using ISO Master I read the note that said that vmlinz and initrd.gz had to be included on the image. I copied them to the pupboot.iso and and burned the iso. Failed to boot. Message on the screen stated, "Loading Stage 2" and stuck there. Strange thing was that the floppy drive (which was empty) light was on, as if Grub was trying to access the floppy.

What is the hitch?

2nd problem:
I then decided to try multiboot. tar.gz. Downloaded, unpacked, read the notes,included vmlinuz and initrd.gz, burned the image, and rebooted. Pup loaded quickly, but wait . . .no sound. lsmod showed few modules loaded:

# lsmod
Module Size Used by
fuse 44820 0
aufs 151456 3
nls_iso8859_1 4224 1
nls_cp437 5888 1
usbhid 24544 0
usb_storage 83008 1
ehci_hcd 30476 0
uhci_hcd 23948 0
usbcore 126104 5 usbhid,usb_storage,ehci_hcd,uhci_hcd
ide_cd 39072 0
cdrom 36768 1 ide_cd
squashfs 46856 1
#

I tried a new burn with a copy of vmlinuz from the live cd, same result.

What is the fix for either or both of the problems.
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#34 Post by rjbrewer »

To boot a usb with a cd; use the cd with the same os the flash
has on it. When it gets to boot screen, type "puppy pmedia=
usbflash". (no quotes)

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#35 Post by rcrsn51 »

I just downloaded a copy of 4.20 retro and made a USB-boot CD combo. It worked fine and installed all the sound modules.

Tell us about your PC. Is there anything non-standard about the optical drive?

Do you get sound when you boot off the Live CD?

Did you try rjbrewer's technique? Use the Puppy CD as the boot disk and during the short initial pause, type:

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puppy pmedia=usbflash

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#36 Post by MikeMT »

My PC has two optical drives: a DVD as master, a CD-RW as slave. So the PC boots off the DVD drive. Nothing unusual.

I did try rjbrewer's technique. Puppy booted, but without the all the modules (no sound). The same modules as listed in my previous post.

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#37 Post by rcrsn51 »

Do you get sound when you boot off the Live CD?

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#38 Post by Sylvander »

Sorry to break in out of sequence, but...

See posts #113 &114 here where I quoted rcrsn51 saying:
#113: ""The 'fixmbr' attachment contains an ISO image of a bootable CD based on FreeDOS. You can use it to restore a Windows MBR that has been overwritten by a Linux bootloader.
Burn the image and boot your machine off it.
At the A> prompt, type the command: fdisk /mbr
Remove the CD and reboot."
"

And in post #114 Paul Komski commented:
#114: "This is a legacy command from DOS for repairing the MBR on Windows ME and earlier but not for repairing the MBR on NT versions of Windows such as 2K/XP and above and for which the command is fixmbr from an NT-based recovery console. Any DOS boot floppy or emulated CDROM should have fdisk on it. The reason is simple enough: fixmbr leaves the original disk signature intact; fdisk rewrites a new one. That means that when the NT OS starts up it re-detects all the hard drive partitions, may re-assign different drive letters and can even be enough to trip a re-activation. There are times when one wants deliberately to re-detect the partitions in this way but not in the normal course of events. The fdisk /mbr command can also result in zeroing of all the partition tables if the magic number 55AA does not occupy the last two bytes of the MBR."

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#39 Post by MikeMT »

There is no sound and limited modules are loaded when booting from the live CD.

Windows is not on this machine. Ubuntu is installed on the harddrive, which boots correctly.

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#40 Post by Aitch »

MikeMT

It might help if you tell us what your pc is, or what sound chip *buntu sees

the fact that 'limited modules are loaded', i.e. several aren't loading, suggests a deeper problem, maybe requiring boot parameters

examples

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puppy acpi=off

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puppy pfix=nodma
see

http://www.puppylinux.org/wiki/archives ... #internal4

Aitch :)

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