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pa_mcclamrock

Joined: 03 Jun 2005 Posts: 695 Location: Fort Wayne, Indiana, USA
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Posted: Thu 12 Mar 2009, 18:40 Post subject:
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WhoDo wrote: | pa_mcclamrock wrote: | WhoDo wrote: | 1. I have RC3 all but ready to release. Apart from one or two program updates and bug fixes, the only significant change will be the inclusion of pa_mcclamrock's Remaster Express (RemaX). |
I just need a little more time for debugging . . . let's see how I'm doing by tomorrow, OK? |
Good news! Hmmmm.... Black Friday release ....  |
Let me see, it's already Friday morning in Australia . . . don't be surprised if it turns out to be Saturday or so, according to your time at least.
Quote: | I was wondering when I'd hear from you, David. |
You would have heard from me before now, I think, if not for the need to make sure all the package listings go into the right files in a remastered CD and correctly say the packages are "on" or "off," which isn't as simple a task as one might hope. After I get done trying to make sure they do, shall I volunteer to help unify and otherwise improve (though not radically transform) the Puppy package management system? (Zigbert was just suggesting that PETget needs some improvement, like being able to install multiple packages upon a single request. I could, um, suggest a few other desirable improvements too.)
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WhoDo

Joined: 11 Jul 2006 Posts: 4440 Location: Lake Macquarie NSW Australia
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Posted: Thu 12 Mar 2009, 19:56 Post subject:
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pa_mcclamrock wrote: | After I get done trying to make sure they do, shall I volunteer to help unify and otherwise improve (though not radically transform) the Puppy package management system? |
BarryK has developed a whole new package management system (see his blog for details), but I don't know how easily that will port back to the standard Puppy. It will certainly be an integral part of all Puppy's built using the Woof build system.
An alternative might be to offer your assistance to Technosaurus for the Puppy Control Panel project. It's all there but needs some rethinking in the area of what appears on the main screen, how and why ... not to mention a better way of providing contextualised help for users. Technosaurus is at an impasse with that part of his project so your assistance would surely be welcomed.
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ttuuxxx

Joined: 05 May 2007 Posts: 11249 Location: Ontario Canada,Sydney Australia
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Posted: Thu 12 Mar 2009, 21:09 Post subject:
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WhoDo wrote: | pa_mcclamrock wrote: | After I get done trying to make sure they do, shall I volunteer to help unify and otherwise improve (though not radically transform) the Puppy package management system? |
BarryK has developed a whole new package management system (see his blog for details), but I don't know how easily that will port back to the standard Puppy. It will certainly be an integral part of all Puppy's built using the Woof build system.
An alternative might be to offer your assistance to Technosaurus for the Puppy Control Panel project. It's all there but needs some rethinking in the area of what appears on the main screen, how and why ... not to mention a better way of providing contextualised help for users. Technosaurus is at an impasse with that part of his project so your assistance would surely be welcomed.
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Hey WhoDo
Don't forget about the control panel app I set you like 1.5 months back remember ?? Its more user friendly, and appealing to the eye, plus it was nice and small also? aren't we still going with that one? since I guess the secret is out of the bag now.
ttuuxxx
Ps once I'm done this VLC, I'll start on seamonkey
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WhoDo

Joined: 11 Jul 2006 Posts: 4440 Location: Lake Macquarie NSW Australia
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Posted: Thu 12 Mar 2009, 21:33 Post subject:
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ttuuxxx wrote: | Don't forget about the control panel app I set you like 1.5 months back remember ?? |
Only vaguely. I've had so much stuff in the last 2 months its possible I've forgotten to include it. Can you send it to me again, please?
ttuuxxx wrote: | Ps once I'm done this VLC, I'll start on seamonkey |
Thanks, Jeff. It may be 2Mb too big for this release but I wouldn't mind betting there are plenty of Seamonkey mail users who would like the option.
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ttuuxxx

Joined: 05 May 2007 Posts: 11249 Location: Ontario Canada,Sydney Australia
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Posted: Thu 12 Mar 2009, 22:01 Post subject:
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Hi WhoDo here's the control panel applications, The thing I like about it is that you can add more applications to it using the gui, but its a hidden feature, that way new users can't mess it up
plus you can use any size ions, 24x24 48x48 etc
I guess we could start with 24x24 due to the limited space but 48x48 would be sweeeeeet, below is 2 icons for the desktop, the orange one I recoloured.
You can also edit applications in root/. i forget the name, It would take me about 1 day to add all the applications and tabs.
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ttuuxxx

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Posted: Thu 12 Mar 2009, 22:31 Post subject:
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funny the example I had with the control panel WhoDo removed, so the icon, link is missing, When I get a bit of free time I'll repackage it with a few working apps.
ttuuxxx
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ttuuxxx

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Posted: Fri 13 Mar 2009, 03:55 Post subject:
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hey WhoDo
One thing we overlooked with cups, if you change the default browser to Firefox/Opera/FirePup etc, cups doesn't work right, I've modified the script so it continues to work with gtkmoz and seamonkey.
Just install the pet and it will be fixed, and for the main release just extract the /usr/sbin/cups_shell and replace it with the cups version your using.
Thanks
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WhoDo

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Posted: Fri 13 Mar 2009, 04:41 Post subject:
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ttuuxxx wrote: | Just install the pup and it will be fixed, and for the main release just extract the /usr/sbin/cups_shell and replace it with the cups version your using. |
ummmm.... what "pup"?
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ttuuxxx

Joined: 05 May 2007 Posts: 11249 Location: Ontario Canada,Sydney Australia
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Posted: Fri 13 Mar 2009, 05:30 Post subject:
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WhoDo wrote: | ttuuxxx wrote: | Just install the pup and it will be fixed, and for the main release just extract the /usr/sbin/cups_shell and replace it with the cups version your using. |
ummmm.... what "pup"?  |
Sorry I meant pet, The wife was distracting me -ing lol
ttuuxxx
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pa_mcclamrock

Joined: 03 Jun 2005 Posts: 695 Location: Fort Wayne, Indiana, USA
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Posted: Fri 13 Mar 2009, 07:12 Post subject:
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WhoDo wrote: | CUPS is working, wireless is working, pa_mcclamrock is working ... |
Update on me working (i.e., on Remaster Express): Package list files appear to be coming out OK; all major and obvious bugs have been squashed; I've burned test CDs and DVDs, and they work. I'm just double-checking some things, putting on a few finishing touches, and debugging one last feature: "Restore System," to let the user re-install built-in packages (i.e., delete whiteout files) on the existing system if desired, after uninstalling them to create a new live-CD. Won't get done before I have to go to work this morning, but should be done by this evening (Saturday morning in Australia) or, at the latest, tomorrow morning (Saturday evening in Australia).
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WhoDo

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Posted: Fri 13 Mar 2009, 07:23 Post subject:
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pa_mcclamrock wrote: | Won't get done before I have to go to work this morning, but should be done by this evening (Saturday morning in Australia) or, at the latest, tomorrow morning (Saturday evening in Australia). |
Don't want to put any pressure on you, pa, but that's the only thing we need for RC3! I've even saved you just enough space! Without RemaX RC3 would be 99.87Mb so we should just about get it in under the limit!
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WhoDo

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Posted: Fri 13 Mar 2009, 07:25 Post subject:
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ttuuxxx wrote: | Sorry I meant pet, The wife was distracting me -ing lol |
I've only got one thing to say to your wife ... YOU GO GIRL!!!
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pa_mcclamrock

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Posted: Fri 13 Mar 2009, 07:30 Post subject:
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WhoDo wrote: | Don't want to put any pressure on you, pa [ . . . ] |
To paraphrase the well-known expression from H.M.S. Pinafore: "Well, hardly any!"
Quote: | [ . . . ] but that's the only thing we need for RC3! I've even saved you just enough space! Without RemaX RC3 would be 99.87Mb so we should just about get it in under the limit!  |
Let me see, even with recent additions, it should come out under 30 KB compressed, which is, um, roughly 0.03 MB . . . that's 99.9 MB, all right!
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ttuuxxx

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Posted: Fri 13 Mar 2009, 07:45 Post subject:
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Hey WhoDo
Have you, say opened a configure file up in Geany lately? The colours are hard to focus on, So I made a configure file for it, it installs to /root/.config/geany <--- hidden file. Anyways I used a better font in bold and a bit larger size, it looks a heck of a lot better, and I have 20/20 vision. So probably most will like it also, compared to the default, once again just extract it and overwrite the one in the package. If you like it better
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WhoDo

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Posted: Fri 13 Mar 2009, 08:07 Post subject:
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pa_mcclamrock wrote: | WhoDo wrote: | Don't want to put any pressure on you, pa [ . . . ] |
To paraphrase the well-known expression from H.M.S. Pinafore: "Well, hardly any!" |
Ah, Gilbert & Sullivan ... I've seen and been seen in a few of those in my time!
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