PupFlux, PupFluxLite & now PupFlux421

[steve_s]

Hi steve_s,

I mirrored your iso here

http://puppylinux.ca/members/PupFluxlite/

Take a look at the md5.txt to be sure it's the correct size.

Best,
Eric

Thanks, Caneri, very appreciated! I don't know how to check the size of the md5, but I do know the iso should be around 83-84 mb. I'll download it from there today and give it a run.

Thanks for the mirror!

[Caneri]

Hi steve_s,

To make an md5sum from the original iso use this command in the directory the iso resides.

md5sum pupfluxlite.iso > pupfluxlite.iso.md5.txt

then look at the one I made on .ca (I didn't have an original to check it against).

Here's the result from my copying the iso to .ca

e7c40c2c07653adc31de8a97bb078e12 pupfluxlite.iso

To check the md5sum locally you can use this

md5sum -c pupfluxlite.iso.md5.txt

Eric

[CatDude]

Hello Eric

I downloaded from the link that steve_s provided at sendspace.com
and i get the same md5sum that you get.

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# md5sum pupfluxlite.iso
e7c40c2c07653adc31de8a97bb078e12  pupfluxlite.iso
# 

So i suspect that is the correct one.


CatDude
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[steve_s]

Hello Eric

I downloaded from the link that steve_s provided at sendspace.com
and i get the same md5sum that you get.

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# md5sum pupfluxlite.iso
e7c40c2c07653adc31de8a97bb078e12  pupfluxlite.iso
# 

So i suspect that is the correct one.


CatDude
.

Thanks, Canari and thanks CatDude for the check up. We'll call it correct unless I check it and it looks totally wrong. Thanks again.

[steve_s]

vg1: Xdelta looks pretty cool! and simple enough to do.

So, would it be more logical to do an Xdelta patch for PupFlux or PupFluxlite?

[vg1]

Steve - well, both really. Are you concerned with size?
I suppose the xdelta for PupFlux should be small because you didn't add much to the basic p412. That's the one I would prefer.

For PupFluxLite you even removed stuff. I have not tried to see how this impacts on the size of the delta, but it should still be small.

Thanks
vg

[steve_s]

vg1: ok, I'll play with 'em...looks pretty simple.

HOWEVER, the link for the xdelta.pet gives back a server error message. Is this a temp thing or is there something wrong with that link? Alterantive link available?

* Edit: found it here.

[steve_s]

Ok, I have not tried this, but per vg1's suggestion, I have made xdelta patches for both pupflux and for pupfluxlite and am going to try and attach them (hopefully it works).

Essentially, applying a patch will save you on download time if you already have the base iso file downloaded.

The base file for PupFlux is Puppy 4.1.2. If you already have pup412 downloaded, you could apply the patch/xdelta for pupflux and it would then create PupFlux for you.

The base file for PupFluxLite is Puppy 4.0. If you already have pup4 downloaded, you could apply the patch/xdelta for pupfluxlite and it would then create PupFluxLite for you.

Great, thorough, brief instructions for xdelta are found here. If that download location doesn't work for xdelta.pet and you want to download it, look at my previous post for an alternative link.

Ok, now let's see if we can attach these.

Yeah, couldn't get it to add them, even though I zipped 'em up. Each is about 8mb. Ideas?

*Edit: ok, if we can figure out how to post 'em, I've got the xdelta's for both of these. Until then, enjoy pupflux and pupfluxlite iso's...

[Dave W.]

Thanks for creating a "darker" look. I'm a Newbie and can't do my own yet. This OS seems more serious now.


Thanks again,

Dave

[steve_s]

Thanks for creating a "darker" look. I'm a Newbie and can't do my own yet. This OS seems more serious now.


Thanks again,

Dave

My pleasure there are other "puplet's" out there, some with darker looks as you say, but not many with fluxbox. Glad you like it.

[trapster]

Someway say "darker look"?



Fullsize

[steve_s]

Nice! Transparent menu looks good...hadn't tried that, but may have to give it a go.

Any fluxbox themes that you like, Trapster? Links?

[trapster]

ahem...you meant fluxbox styles??
I use a tweaked variation of fisionbox style with the GTK blueheart theme.
Many fluxbox styles can be found Here

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! fisionBox for fluxbox.


! Miscellaneous settings...
style.name:	fisionBox-al
style.author:	me
style.date:	jue oct 9 2008
style.credits:me
style.comments:			for  fluxbox 1.14 dependencies: xv
		

! Toolbar settings...
toolbar.button:	Flat Solid Horizontal
toolbar.button.color:	#020202
toolbar.button.colorTo:	#000000
toolbar.button.picColor:	#FFEC8B
toolbar.button.font:dejavu sans-*-*-normal-*-14-*-*-*-*-*-*-*

toolbar.button.pressed:	Flat Solid Horizontal
toolbar.button.pressed.color:	#FFEC8B
toolbar.button.pressed.colorTo:	#FFEC8B
toolbar.button.pressed.font:dejavu sans-*-*-normal-*-14-*-*-*-*-*-*-*

toolbar.label:	Flat Solid Horizontal
toolbar.label.color:	#000000
toolbar.label.colorTo:	#000000
toolbar.label.textColor:	#FFEC8B
toolbar.label.font:dejavu sans-*-*-normal-*-14-*-*-*-*-*-*-*

toolbar.windowLabel:	Flat Solid Horizontal
toolbar.windowLabel.color:	#020202
toolbar.windowLabel.colorTo:	#000000
toolbar.windowLabel.textColor:	#FFEC8B
toolbar.windowLabel.font:dejavu sans-*-*-normal-*-14-*-*-*-*-*-*-*

toolbar.clock:	Flat Solid Horizontal
toolbar.clock.color:	#020202
toolbar.clock.colorTo:	#000000
toolbar.clock.textColor:	#FFEC8B
toolbar.clock.font:dejavu sans-*-*-normal-*-14-*-*-*-*-*-*-*

toolbar:	Flat Solid Horizontal
toolbar.color:	#FFFFFF
toolbar.colorTo:	#FFFFFF
toolbar.textColor:	#020202
toolbar.font:dejavu sans-*-*-normal-*-14-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
toolbar.justify:	Center

toolbar.workspace.font: dejavu sans-13:italic

! Menu settings...
menu.frame:	Flat Solid Horizontal
menu.frame.color:	#020202
menu.frame.colorTo:	#000000
menu.frame.textColor:	#FFEC8B
menu.frame.font:dejavu sans-*-*-normal-*-14-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
menu.frame.justify:	Right

menu.title:	Flat Solid Horizontal
menu.title.color:	#020202
menu.title.colorTo:	#000000
menu.title.textColor:	#FFEC8B
menu.title.font: dejavu sans-*-*-normal-*-16-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
menu.title.justify:	Center

menu.hilite:	Flat Solid Horizontal
menu.hilite.color:	#FFEC8B
menu.hilite.colorTo:	#FFEC8B
menu.hilite.textColor:	#020202

menu.bullet:	Diamond
menu.bullet.position:	Right
menu.frame.disableColor:	#020202

! Window settings...
window.button.focus:	raised gradient diagonal
window.button.focus.color:	rgb:60/70/80
window.button.focus.colorTo:	rgb:20/24/28
window.button.focus.picColor:	white

window.button.unfocus:	raised gradient diagonal
window.button.unfocus.color:	rgb:60/70/80
window.button.unfocus.colorTo:	rgb:20/24/28
window.button.unfocus.picColor:	gray

window.grip.focus:	Flat Solid Horizontal
window.grip.focus.color:	#FFEC8B
window.grip.focus.colorTo:	#FFEC8B

window.grip.unfocus:	Flat Solid Horizontal
window.grip.unfocus.color:	#020202
window.grip.unfocus.colorTo:	#000000

window.handle.focus:	Flat Solid Horizontal
window.handle.focus.color:	#020202
window.handle.focus.colorTo:	#000000

window.handle.unfocus:	Flat Solid Horizontal
window.handle.unfocus.color:	#020202
window.handle.unfocus.colorTo:	#000000

window.label.focus:	Flat Solid Horizontal
window.label.focus.color:	#020202
window.label.focus.colorTo:	#000000
window.label.focus.textColor:	#FFEC8B
window.label.focus.font:dejavu sans-*-*-normal-*-16-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
window.label.focus.justify:	Center

window.font:dejavu sans-*-*-normal-*-16-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
window.justify:	Center
window.label.unfocus:	Flat Solid Horizontal
window.label.unfocus.color:	#384551
window.label.unfocus.colorTo:	#000000
window.label.unfocus.textColor:	#888800

window.title.focus:	Flat Solid Horizontal
window.title.focus.color:	#020202
window.title.focus.colorTo:	#000000

window.title.unfocus:	Flat Solid Horizontal
window.title.unfocus.color:	#020202
window.title.unfocus.colorTo:	#000000

window.button.pressed:	Flat Solid Horizontal
window.button.pressed.color:	#FFEC8B
window.button.pressed.colorTo:	#000000

window.frame.focusColor:	#020202
window.frame.unfocusColor:	#020202
handleWidth:	6
frameWidth:	6
bevelWidth:	0
borderWidth:	0
borderColor:	#FFEC8B

[steve_s]

Yes, "styles"...don't know how I could mix up that with the word "themes". You should see me when I'm downloading themes versus gtk styles (each labelled accordingly)...which folder was that? crap, I saved it in the wrong one! etc.

Thanks for the link and the feedback.

*Edit: oh, man! I think I just switched 'em again in my explanation..ugh!

[steve_s]

Ok, trapster, or whomever else, is there some trick to getting pwidgets to work on fluxbox? I installed .1 and restarted my x screen and no widgets.

I understand that .2 just came out...maybe I need to switch?

I've got the pinboard commented out on .xinitrc...does that matter?

[redandwhitestripes]

Steve, it's my favourite version of Puppy
Do you - or anyone else - know how I can get it to run from RAM after it's installed on my hard drive?

Oh and how do we get the transparency effects on the menus?

[steve_s]

Steve, it's my favourite version of Puppy
Do you - or anyone else - know how I can get it to run from RAM after it's installed on my hard drive?

Oh and how do we get the transparency effects on the menus?

Actually, I might be able to help with both...when Puppy is done via a frugal, rather than full, install, it runs essentially like a livecd, being loaded to ram. Puppy is different in that way.

At first I would install Puppy as I would usually do an install, using up the whole hard drive. But now I select frugal, then change the boot loader (usually grub) and point it to the installed file (usually explained during the frugal install by Puppy). So, even though my hard drive may be an ext2 or ext3 filesystem like the "normal" linux install, it has essentially a blank drive save for the frugal install. Hope that makes sense.

As far as transparencies, when you right click via the menu in this version, you'll the fluxbox menu option at the top, then configure than at the bottom of that is transparency. I've never used it, but I would probably start there if I was looking into transparencies.

Perhaps someone else can help us out with that aspect of it...

Oh, and glad you like the puplet.

[`f00]

<snip> no widgets.
<mo'snip>
I've got the pinboard commented out on .xinitrc...does that matter?

Likely not, unless pwidgets has been changed yet again - oddly for some wms (like 'box-styles) it was a bit conflicted since it would start up the bg from /root/Startup/show_widgets by running .. not sure as I'm not in Pup atm but it did cause some oddness with Blackbox and Afterstep, both of which work better without PuppyPin making waves or the ROX-background from being set. I used a trifling mod on that pwidgets script in /root/Startup .. basically you stop it from loading puppypin or doing a fix* as it did in an early version .. instead use pwidgets_exec (and again, I think you have to give the path maybe .. I guess at scripts sometimes 'til they work, lol...

Anyhow, that's how I got it to work in BB and Afterstep - it may have changed since then .. and ymmv (I only use it to display a custom 'conkywidget' and the Processes one)

Looking forward to having a 'patch' installer if that can be done realistically since a few recent dl's are deathly slow on dialup (hahaha, P42b1 is still dribbling in after ... ... ...)

[trapster]

Ok, trapster, or whomever else, is there some trick to getting pwidgets to work on fluxbox? I installed .1 and restarted my x screen and no widgets.

I understand that .2 just came out...maybe I need to switch?

I've got the pinboard commented out on .xinitrc...does that matter?

As I like some icons on my desktop, I do use the puppypin in .xinitrc. Below is what mine looks like as I cannot remember what was original or what else I've commented out.
I also use fbsetbg in /root/.fluxbox/startup.

I haven't played much with pwidgets but as you can see in the screenshot above, the clock does work

/root/.xinitrc

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#relocates right-side icons to actual right-side of screen...
/usr/sbin/fixPuppyPin /root/Choices/ROX-Filer/PuppyPin #v1.0.7

rox -p /root/Choices/ROX-Filer/PuppyPin

#if [ $PUPMODE -eq 5 ];then #v2.17
# setrox2backdrop /usr/share/backgrounds/welcome.png
# #...sets background image, written into /root/Choices/ROX-Filer/PuppyPin
#else
# #v2.17 i think need this on 2nd boot, to change welcome.png to default.jpg...
# if [ ! -f /root/Choices/ROX-background.jpg ];then
#  cp /usr/share/backgrounds/default.jpg /root/Choices/ROX-background.jpg
#  setrox2backdrop /usr/share/backgrounds/default.jpg
# fi
#fi
#added xli for puppy 4.10
#xli -fillscreen -onroot /root/.config/tmp/bg_img
##v1.0.5

/root/.fluxbox/startup

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# You can set your favourite wallpaper here if you don't want
# to do it from your style.
#
#fbsetbg -f /usr/share/backgrounds/Reflection.jpg
background=`cat /root/.config/wallpaper/bg_img`
fbsetbg -f $background
#xli added for Puppy 4.10
#xli -fillscreen -onroot /root/.config/tmp/bg_img
#
# This sets a black background

#/usr/bin/fbsetroot -solid black

This is using puppy410

[steve_s]

Thanks, trapster! Ok, I can uncomment that line (which is the only thing different) but I don't want all the icons (or any, really, hence my reason for fluxbox) so how do I have pwidgets without the icons?

Oh, and I discovered this little trick for keeping the background that you finished with last. I had issues with the startup setting, so I looked around. I use fbsetbg in the menu to set the background in this version, so that is what I used for this trick.

All you have to do is edit the file /root/.fluxbox/init

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geany /root/.fluxbox/init

Find the line that has rootCommand in it (it was blank when I first found it and add fbsetbg -l (that's "l" as in "last wallpaper set)" so it looks like this:

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session.screen0.rootCommand:	fbsetbg -l

Which seems to have the same effect as editing the startup like you said, trapster, but it seemed to be easier for me.

Doesn't answer my pwidgets issue, though...