Puppy 4.2 Alpha2-Firepup Bugs & Fixes

[tom4jesus]

Hi,

Since i am not seeing anyone else reporting a problem this may very well be a bug on my part with the iso burn, but I have tried burning two discs from the iso that had the correct md5sum and when I boot it goes right past the disc and into my grub menu, as if the disc is not there.
But the disc and it's contents is easily accessible when mounted from within puppy 4.1.2 that I have installed on my laptop.
I checked my bios again, just to be sure, and it is correct, the CD boots before the HDD.

I have booted numerous versions of puppy from the discs with this computer and never run into this problem before.
In the past when I get a bad burn I get it at least trying to boot and then get some sort of kernel panic.

I also tried the disc on my desktop computer that also has puppy 4.1.2 on it (this is on my laptop) and the same thing happed, it went right to my grub menu as if the disc was not there.
Looking in the disc when mounted I have the following files;

boot.msg
help.msg
initrd.gz
logo.16
pup_420.sfs
syslinux.cfg
vmlinuz

and the content of the syslinux.cfg

default puppy
display boot.msg
prompt 1
timeout 80

F1 boot.msg
F2 help.msg

label puppy
kernel vmlinuz
append initrd=initrd.gz pmedia=cd

I will try to download another iso and burn another disc tomorrow, but I have to go to work now.

I am fairly new to Puppy and Linux, but I will help in anyway I can by testing and reporting bugs, even if I don't know how to fix them.

Is it possible to have a good md5sum and the burn go fine and still have a bad disc?
I suppose I would think it is, but I just wanted to be sure it was just me and not the iso.

Thanks,
Tom B.

[technosaurus]

See the cred that being a top 10 distro brings? ...

It is my understanding that ttuuxxx has made significant modification to the source code of the 1.5 series of Firefox in order to create FirePup. Shouldn't we post his source code (or a patch) to comply with the GPL?

[dogone]

Hi,

Since i am not seeing anyone else reporting a problem this may very well be a bug on my part with the iso burn, but I have tried burning two discs from the iso that had the correct md5sum and when I boot it goes right past the disc and into my grub menu, as if the disc is not there
Tom B.

I can confirm this. Checksums matched and burn verified, but disk is not seen as bootable. What was that about Rome? .

[pa_mcclamrock]

Me too--all seemed to be going well, until it didn't boot. Sorry, try again!

[Ray MK]

Hi

Just put 4.2a2 on my 5yr old laptop - runs fine frugal
in 96mb ram (256mb swap) 1ghz celeron proc.

Alpha1 runs very well on an even older midi PC - full install
91mb ram (200mb swap) 400mhz celeron proc.
Am sure Alpha2 will be just fine too.

Posting this from 4.2a2 now - FirePup feels fast - nice.
Jump-off page defaults to netsurf (did not launch firepup)
Will try prefs and see if that changes default browser to FirePup.

Next will be a frugal install on my new EeePc 701SD booting from
USB stick and from SD card.

Again - many thanks and much appreciation to all for doing what you do to make Puppy Linux the best OS in the world.

Best regards - Ray

[ttuuxxx]

WhoDo
as flash games goes
Flash chess pet package is the same size 49KB so I uploaded the original pet.
ACE-Solitaire.pet 22KB is one of best polished Solitaire games going, you can look at the thread http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 3bf9314cb1
Before adding it, I'll contact the developers and ask permissions. But its really worth trying out.
ttuuxxx

[alex12]

I have the same problem.
My disk wont boot either. I tried several disks several times.

I should note that 4.2 alpha 1 worked fine.

[Terryphi]

I have just finished downloading the alpha2 iso. It was painfully slow and must have taken over 2 hours!
Checksum is OK but I tried 2 burns and the CD is not recognised as bootable. Anyone else had this problem?

This is possible, although it shouldn't be the case. I ran out of CD's to do a test burn with and the iso was created with Isomaster rather than the createpuppy script in Unleashed which is currently broken.

Use Isomaster in your current Puppy to extract the contents of the iso and check the syslinux.cfg file to ensure that pmedia=cd is set correctly. Then reburn as a bootable LiveCD or simply use the vmlinuz, initrd.gz and pup_420.sfs files to create a frugal install in your existing partition.

Remember, this is an alpha and intended for testing - not daily use.

I hope that helps.

Thanks for the reply WhoDo. Don't worry - I appreciate that it is an alpha.
Here are the contents of syslinux.cfg as it appears in the downloaded iso :

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default puppy
display boot.msg
prompt 1
timeout 80

F1 boot.msg
F2 help.msg

label puppy
kernel vmlinuz
append initrd=initrd.gz pmedia=cd

Is that what should be included?

[aragon]

@WhoDo

Booting problem with the cd might be a problem of isomaster. Some people (me too) have had problems to 'remaster' a puppy-iso (what means to substitute pup_***.sfs) with isomaster. maybe the actual problem is just another bug.

cheers
aragon

[ttuuxxx]

See the cred that being a top 10 distro brings? ...

It is my understanding that ttuuxxx has made significant modification to the source code of the 1.5 series of Firefox in order to create FirePup. Shouldn't we post his source code (or a patch) to comply with the GPL?

technosaurus your a pain in the butt asking for that twice now, I'm uploading the original redhat security updated 1.5, And I'll supply the links 2 the other mozilla hosted sources that I used. Mix them together after compiling them all the same, add Fasterfox, FlashBlock, Chatzilla, and a theme, make adjust what you can after they are compiled and you'll have FirePup
ttuuxxx

Ps I didn't modify any of the sources, I modified the packages after they were compiled. If you want to see my modifications they are part of FirePup. I feel like i'm being audited and I DON'T LIKE IT !!

https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org ... ce.tar.bz2
https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org ... ce.tar.bz2
http://www.puppylinux.asia/tpp/ttuuxxx/ ... l4.src.rpm

[WhoDo]

Booting problem with the cd might be a problem of isomaster. Some people (me too) have had problems to 'remaster' a puppy-iso (what means to substitute pup_***.sfs) with isomaster. maybe the actual problem is just another bug.

As a test, would someone unpack syslinux.cfg from the ISO, rename it isolinux.cfg and pack it back in. Then do a burn to CD and let me know if the problem is resolved. It shouldn't be, but renaming the config file is the only change I made to the way Alpha2 is configured vs Alpha1, which had both the syslinux and isolinux versions in the one file. Of course I'm grasping at straws.

I know the underlying build is ok. It boots fine from a frugal install on a partition and on a USB stick.

Let me know how you go.

[WhoDo]

Is it possible to have a good md5sum and the burn go fine and still have a bad disc?
I suppose I would think it is, but I just wanted to be sure it was just me and not the iso.

At this point with all the boot problems others are having, it's probably the iso. You should compare md5sum's at two points in the process - once on the iso after download and once on the LiveCD after burning the iso to the cd. Pburn will allow you to do that as a matter of course.

The file list and syslinux.cfg file seem fine. Try unpacking the iso to a directory and making a bootable CD with those files on manually, rather than burning directly from the iso.

Hope that helps.

[ttuuxxx]

Hey WhoDo, I've been thinking about the icon problem we are having.
Wouldn't it be better to have 3 icon folders and in each theme folder is 2 tar.gz files mini-icons.tar.gz and pixmaps.tar.gz that gets extracted to
/usr/local/lib/X11/mini-icons
/usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps
That way, nothing is left behind, so when the tar.gz extracts, it replaces the previous images 100% and Jwm,IceWM can't messup.

Or maybe just kill the icon switcher, and extra icon themes, until its a stable program, the way it works now, is alpha quality and shouldn't be in a main release, well thats how I look at it, not putting down the great work that went into it, but if its really buggy. It should get more testing and fixes before entering mainstream Puppy.
ttuuxxx

Ps WhoDo anything on your wish list you would like me to tackle now? Just sitting here thinking hmmmmmm looks like I have everything done that I could do for now. Should I start something new?
ttuuxxx

[HairyWill]

<major edit>post no longer necessary</edit>
If you supply software compiled from GPL code you must be able to supply the source on request. This is part of the reason for the success of linux. Every time you modify something, someone else can look at your changes and learn/hack/patch to their hearts content.

Being able to supply the source does not mean it has to be included in the iso.

[Terryphi]

As a test, would someone unpack syslinux.cfg from the ISO, rename it isolinux.cfg and pack it back in. Then do a burn to CD and let me know if the problem is resolved.

I tried that - it didn't work. However, I can confirm that it works as a frugal install.

[ttuuxxx]

Ok Hairy what your saying is that I have to supply the 3 source files that I used to create firepup, right FF 1.5,2,3
Why would I have to suppy FF sources when they are already being hosted by FF and the 1.5 by redhat, How about 3 links and tell them go fetch.
ttuuxxx

[ttuuxxx]

Ok Hairy I changed my post on page 2, does that follow GPL now?
ttuuxxx

Plus I made a GPL statement
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... h&id=14493

[HairyWill]

ttuuxxx
thank you
Earlier versions of your post gave the impression that you had modified the source code, I suspected that you hadn't.

Before anyone else points it out firefox is MPL not GPL. I don't think the difference is important here.

I don't think technosaurus is being a PITA.

[ttuuxxx]

Yes Hairy I'm not much of a coder, but I'm a hell of tester/mixer of things, I can do simple code, but its veryyyyy limited. And source code well thats a whole new ballpark for me, most I can do with source code is alter the config file to use lower version numbers or change exit 1 to exit 0 lol
ttuuxxx

[ttuuxxx]

Oh but what I do understand that helps me out with Firefox code after its compiled is the markup language its very similar to web pages, and that I understand very well.
ttuuxxx