Puppy 4..2alpha "Deepthought" Bug Reports and Fixes

[01micko]

WhoDo wrote

Just unpack the file into a new folder called Guttenprint-5.2.3 and then use dir2pet to pack it again.

Is it really that simple?

[01micko]

Hmmmmmmmm,

Made a pet that way WhoDo, didn't work, I didn't think it would.

Now, if you meant extract, configure, make clean, make, (without make install) would that work?

Guess I'll go and see then... if that's what you meant...

[01micko]

OK, made a pet after I compliled. Booted pfix=ram. Installed cups (ttuuxxx version), installed the shiny new gutenprint-5.2.3.pet, uh oh, dependency list, 10 as in ten gimp libraries needed.
Ok, took the easy way out and installed gimp from the repo, no cigar. Cups doesn't see the driver. Guess I need that tut. Cause I can get it to work if I compile from source.

[ttuuxxx]

I've been working on icewm plus the shutdown script.
Here's what it looks like, tell me what you think?
ttuuxxx

[01micko]

I've been working on icewm plus the shutdown script.
Here's what it looks like, tell me what you think?
ttuuxxx

That looks awesome! Very nice work.

[ttuuxxx]

Ok Guys here ya gooooooooooooo
Finally I'm finished with the IceWm package with the new Shutdown menu, parcellite, a wack of scripts, 6 themes, Volume control on the taskbar, pretty much the most tweaked out version of icewm I've ever seen, lol
try it on a version of puppy that doesn't have icewm, like 4.1 and lesser.
Also I'm including another theme, its the Silver xp theme, That I got from freshmeat and then I modded it a bit
ttuuxxx
just install it and restart Xserver

[jcoder24]

I've been working on icewm plus the shutdown script.
Here's what it looks like, tell me what you think?
ttuuxxx

I think it has too many options especially for the newbie. If the plan is to stick with all of those options I would prefer to see it organised into two columns/tabs. The main column/tab would have the standard exit, restart, shutdown, lock and the other column/tab would have everything else.

[ttuuxxx]

I've been working on icewm plus the shutdown script.
Here's what it looks like, tell me what you think?
ttuuxxx

I think it has too many options especially for the newbie. If the plan is to stick with all of those options I would prefer to see it organised into two columns/tabs. The main column/tab would have the standard exit, restart, shutdown, lock and the other column/tab would have everything else.

Well yes that's a nice idea, but at this point in time, I'm the furthest thing from being a coder, I did manage to get this working well. If you want to take it to the next step, your more than welcomed to
ttuuxxx

Ps 2 columns would be ok, but tabs are extra mouse clicks and kind of a pain for 9 options when 5 of the 9 options are defaults

[rarsa]

I think it has too many options especially for the newbie.

I concur.

Any visual separation will help.

Maybe one row with the real shutdown options and another row with the WM options.

But really, how frequently a normal user flip flop from WMs? Developers I agree, we need to test, but normal users? I think that WM switching should be a configuration option, not a shut down option.

Other than that, looks good with the icons.

[ttuuxxx]

Wow guys and I figured that looked perfect and only took about 20hrs to get it working right, LOL ok I'll try to do something. It might take sometime, Since I don't have a clue how to do it, but I'll read up somewhere and see what I can figure out. I figured I was off the hook and could go back to building a browser, oh well
ttuuxxx

[ttuuxxx]

Ok guys hows about having one called
"Shutdown" with 4 items
-Shutdown
-Reboot
-Exit to Prompt
-Lock System

And another called
Advanced System
-Fixmenus
-Restart Icewm
-Restart with JWM
-Restart X-Server
-Manage Process


ttuuxxx

[growler]

As noted in an earlier post hiawatha doesn't run and therefore PPLOG is also dead in 4.2 alpha 1.

I have been trying to get hiawatha going in 4.2 alpha 1 - I am not sure if WhoDo has decided to ditch it or keep it - for 100k its extraordinary value - if it can be made to work!! The issue appears to be a permissions thing.

hiawatha runs as the user nobody - but curiously making the files and directories under /root/httpd/hiawatha readable and executable by the nobody user still doesn't give nobody the right to read/execute these files. I have all files below /root/httpd/ owned by nobody and in the nobody group. I even chmod -R 7777 /root/httpd

drwxrwxrwx 8 nobody nobody 1024 2008-07-13 11:27 blog
-rwxrwxrwx 1 nobody nobody 37557 2008-07-12 19:02 hiawatha.htm
-rwxrwxrwx 1 nobody nobody 1926 2009-01-27 10:49 index.html

I asked a couple of questions on the hiawatha forum and Hugo's response was:

Hugo Leisink
27 January 2009, 09:19
Somehow, the OS is not allowing Hiawatha to read the file. Are you using a security patch on your kernel like grSecurity, AppArmor or SELinux? The message "access denied via filesystem" indicates that the OS is not allowing access. It's not a Hiawatha configuration issue. If you switch to user nobody, can you read the requested file via 'cat'?

If I su to nobody - then indeed I can't read these files??
The kernel is the same as 4.1.2 ... so what gives here?

Sorry guys ... tried to help but stuck. Not sure if this issue will affect other stuff?

[HairyWill]

try this (needs a proper cancel button)

your icewm pet includes a lot of extras

my dialog removes the need for your fixmenus2, fixmenus is launched in a console with hold directly from the dialog

There is not really any need to have separate files for icewm2jwm/windowmanager
and jwm2icewm/windowmanager you can simply echo the relevant text directly into /etc/windowmanager from gtkdialog (you can have multiple action elements for a button).

I see you have included the original absvolume as absvolume2. I presume that one works properly with your soundcard. Really I should stop releasing my mods as absvolume and call it something else.

[ttuuxxx]

try this (needs a proper cancel button)

your icewm pet includes a lot of extras

my dialog removes the need for your fixmenus2, fixmenus is launched in a console with hold directly from the dialog

There is not really any need to have separate files for icewm2jwm/windowmanager
and jwm2icewm/windowmanager you can simply echo the relevant text directly into /etc/windowmanager from gtkdialog (you can have multiple action elements for a button).

I see you have included the original absvolume as absvolume2. I presume that one works properly with your soundcard. Really I should stop releasing my mods as absvolume and call it something else.

Thanks for the help Hairy, I really like it when someone lends a hand:)
The reason why I included that absvolume and called it absvolume2 is because the one that came with puppy 4.2 works on JWM but on icewm it didn't swallow to the taskbar nicely. So I included one that worked in the past No volume control ever works on my motherboards, but I figure it should work on others:)
I'll try your script out and see how it works. Looks nice:)
ttuuxxx

[Lobster]

good work guys - a small point the power down (shutoff button should go at the bottom)

I recently had to close down Puppy from an unusual screen viewing angle
Top or bottom would have been more logical . . .

a very minor point
Basically this is excellent work

Many of us are watching how you developer guys are working and collaborating together

Inspiring

[ttuuxxx]

good work guys - a small point the power down (shutoff button should go at the bottom)

I recently had to close down Puppy from an unusual screen viewing angle
Top or bottom would have been more logical . . .

a very minor point
Basically this is excellent work

Many of us are watching how you developer guys are working and collaborating together

Inspiring

hey lobster how about
Shutdown
Reboot
Lock Screen
Cancel

Does that work better for you, since cancel is usually always last?

[ttuuxxx]

So It would look like this, I also still have to fix the Cancel button but shouldn't be long
ttuuxxx
Ok I'm happy with this cancel button
I'll fix the icewm.pet package
ttuuxxx

[ttuuxxx]

ok I updated the icewm package found on this page, with the newer tabbed version that looks like the above image.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 019#269019
ttuuxxx

[rarsa]

Ok guys hows about having one called
"Shutdown" with 4 items
-Shutdown
-Reboot
-Exit to Prompt
-Lock System

I think these are great. They look organized and clean.

And another called
-Fixmenus
-Restart Icewm
-Restart with JWM
-Restart X-Server

In my humble opinion these belong under the the "Desktop" menu entry. It has nothing to do with shutting down other than it restarts X.

-Manage Process

Again, it has nothing to do with shutting down, it belongs under system.

[HairyWill]

-Manage Process

Again, it has nothing to do with shutting down, it belongs under system.

I suggested the pprocess button mainly for win refugees expecting the task manager. Really the simile doesn't hold and I would agree with the removal of the entire tab. Also the jwm button kills jwm then starts, it has a perfectly funtional option
jwm -restart
which doesn't kill X and all the windows
This control is best done from the window managers own menu.

I've just realised the lock button has the same bug as Zigberts tray lock button.
If there is no xlock password set xlock expects new passwords on stdin if it isn't attached to a console then you lose X
Better would be to call /usr/local/apps/Xlock/AppRun which is capable of handling this scenario.

The jwmrc template included does not utilise the shutdown dialog. I am a bit confused that you have included a jwm template in a pet called icewm, it should be in xdg or jwm! I suspect that whodo is already having build problems because several pets in the current build are providing different versions of the same file. Please let us not exacerbate this problem.