Is there a Modern Color Printer that Just Works in Puppy?

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edoc · #1 Post by **edoc** » Fri 02 Dec 2005, 22:28

Is there a modern color printer that works out-of-the-box under Puppy?

It is worth a few $$ ($25-$50) for someone to provide me a DotPup to match the recommended printer if special efforts are necessary to meet this need --
I really need this for the new business!

Here is what I need and I needed it yesterday:

1. No messy installation just plug it in and have Puppy recognize it.

2. Under $100. and currently on the market.

3. Cleanly prints specialty items like business cards, postcards, and small posters (5x8 or 8x11) using OO or other Puppy-friendly apps.

4. Prints photos nicely from Puppy.

5. Refillable color cartridges.

Here are nice-to-haves which I understand would drive up the price:

A. Copier.
B. Fax.
B. Scanner.

NOTE: I still need a DotPup for my Samsung Laser Printer.

Thanks! doc

Sage · #2 Post by **Sage** » Sat 03 Dec 2005, 09:50

Try a used HP Deskjet 640C (e-Bay?). There's lots of them about. Seem to work on almost anything. Only downside is that a tiny plastic part on the cartridge transport rack mechanism can break, especially during a paper jam. It costs about 2p/3

edoc · #3 Post by **edoc** » Sat 03 Dec 2005, 20:19

[quote="Sage"]Try a used HP Deskjet 640C (e-Bay?). There's lots of them about. Seem to work on almost anything. Only downside is that a tiny plastic part on the cartridge transport rack mechanism can break, especially during a paper jam. It costs about 2p/3

edoc · #4 Post by **edoc** » Sat 03 Dec 2005, 22:02

edoc wrote:Bought a HP 4215 multi-function printer-fax-scan device today.HP sent me here for a driver: http://hpoj.sourceforge.net/suplist.shtml
The device is not even listed but I am in hopes that the 4100-series driver will work on the 4200 series. doc

Just received this great response from HP Support:

Thank you for writing back to us.

David the HP Officejet 4215 driver is under development process.
Currently linux is having support to HP Officejet 4100 All-in-One
driver, please download it and install it. The driver should work.

This should resolve the issue. If you need further assistance, please
reply to this message and we will be happy to assist you further.

Have a good day !
Sincerely,
Cynthia HP Total Care

Now I just have to figure out how to load it in Puppy!

doc

edoc · #5 Post by **edoc** » Sat 03 Dec 2005, 23:56

edoc wrote: David the HP Officejet 4215 driver is under development process.
Currently linux is having support to HP Officejet 4100 All-in-One
driver, please download it and install it. The driver should work.

Now I just have to figure out how to load it in Puppy! doc

Downloaded the file and extracted using Guitar.

Then ran PupGet and Install Alien.

It stopped running and started fussing about it wanting to load into other than /usr, /etc, /root, or something like that and terminated.

I have no idea what to do next.

So, how do I load this driver package, please?

Help? Thanks! doc

#6 Post by MU » Sun 04 Dec 2005, 00:13

which driver did you download?
Give me a link please.

I downloaded this hpoj and compiled it (without the Scanner- SANE-Backend).
http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/hpoj ... z?download
from this page:
http://hpoj.sourceforge.net/download.shtml

It seems to be HPs Printing system.

But I cannot test it without a printer.
So you must do some tests.

Download this Dotpup (900 kb):
http://dotpups.de/dotpups/Printing/HP-hpoj-0.91.pup

Install it.
Now you have a menue-entry in Dotpups, but it certainly will not work.
Also ROX opens with the folder
/usr/local/HP-hpoj-0.91

Right-click, -> open Xterm

In Xterm, type:
./run-xojpanel

This certainly will give you an error-message, copy it to a message please.

The Program requires QT, so install qt-3.3.4 with PupGet.
If you have Opera or KDE running, it is already installed.

Also read this document, and try to follow the instructions as far as you understand them:
file:///usr/local/HP-hpoj-0.91/doc/ptal-init.html

This is the "printer-daemon", that must run.

Mark

edoc · #7 Post by **edoc** » Fri 09 Dec 2005, 20:42

[quote="MU"]which driver did you download?
Give me a link please.</quote>

http://hpinkjet.sourceforge.net/productsmf.php

HPLIP DJ3320

Pending interruptions from the 3yr old, the new business, calls from the church, and various and sundry other adventures I hope to try and work though you instructions this evening.

Oh, I do have to get a sermon outline done before I start ... ooops!

doc

#8 Post by MU » Fri 09 Dec 2005, 21:38

hm. the link you gave me, leads to another printing system.
but that has quite hefty requirements, like python and cups.
i have python installed, but no cups.

I would have to search the board for that, I think Rarsa was deeper into that.

But I will go to weekend in some hours, so please try first the Dotpup I made.

Would be fine if that quite small solution would work.

Greets, Mark

edoc · #9 Post by **edoc** » Sat 10 Dec 2005, 23:10

MU wrote:Download this Dotpup (900 kb):
http://dotpups.de/dotpups/Printing/HP-hpoj-0.91.pup
Install it.
Now you have a menue-entry in Dotpups, but it certainly will not work.
Also ROX opens with the folder
/usr/local/HP-hpoj-0.91
Right-click, -> open Xterm
In Xterm, type:
./run-xojpanel
This certainly will give you an error-message, copy it to a message please.

Finally got a few minutes to get back to this.

The error is the classic: "No such file or directory."

;-( doc

rarsa · #10 Post by **rarsa** » Sun 11 Dec 2005, 03:57

Did I hear my name?

Oh, yes, CUPS.

My instructions to install CUPS include a driver for HP inkjet printers

http://www.murga.org/~puppy/viewtopic.p ... e3c4#12248

aahhaaa · #11 Post by **aahhaaa** » Sun 11 Dec 2005, 04:26

edoc wrote:
edoc wrote:Bought a HP 4215 multi-function printer-fax-scan device today.HP sent me here for a driver: http://hpoj.sourceforge.net/suplist.shtml
The device is not even listed but I am in hopes that the 4100-series driver will work on the 4200 series. doc
Just received this great response from HP Support:

Thank you for writing back to us.

David the HP Officejet 4215 driver is under development process.
Currently linux is having support to HP Officejet 4100 All-in-One
driver, please download it and install it. The driver should work.

This should resolve the issue. If you need further assistance, please
reply to this message and we will be happy to assist you further.

Have a good day !
Sincerely,
Cynthia HP Total Care

Now I just have to figure out how to load it in Puppy!

doc

doc- do us all a favor... forward this email to HP Investor Relations
http://www.hp.com/hpinfo/investor/board.html
and tell them there are 40 million Linux users worldwide who are getting mighty unhappy with this perpetual runaround... and could they kindly give this 'development process' a little push?
(You might also mention that the HP Total Care system ad on their website
http://www.hp.com/
clearly shows a North American woman taking your tech call, and your email was apparently not written by someone from this hemisphere, and do they think they will win the J.D. Power and Associates CS award again any time soon?)

aahhaaa · #12 Post by **aahhaaa** » Sun 11 Dec 2005, 20:30

this is kinda interesting... out of curiosity, I looked in at the (well-heeled) ubuntu forum to see what luck they are having with printers.

here's a current thread :Could someone recommend a well supported linux printer please?
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=101484

they seem to be doing better with Lexmark Samsung etc than you'd think, but basically like HP. The enthusiasm here is not echoed in their wiki however:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport ... tsPrinters

bottom line I couldn't find anybody that had a multi-function fully working; but they may help some Puppies out with driver info for the dreaded CUPS...

#13 Post by MU » Sun 11 Dec 2005, 23:23

edoc wrote:The error is the classic: "No such file or directory."

shure, you are in the right folder?
type "pwd" to check that.

And
cd /usr/local/HP-hpoj-0.91
to go there.

If you stll get the error, pleasetype "ls -l" and post the output.

Mark

edoc · #14 Post by **edoc** » Mon 12 Dec 2005, 21:39

OK. Made a clean install of GrafPup 1.0.6 and got all the way to the CUPS Admin and sent a Test Print.

Nothing prints so I look at Jobs. Nothing active so I look at completed and it says it is a 15k file and has been "aborted". I click on Restart Job and get "client-error-not-possible"

Ideas, please? Thanks! doc

rarsa · #15 Post by **rarsa** » Mon 12 Dec 2005, 22:22

Please send the CUPS log file.
The CUPS thread has instructions to do it http://www.murga.org/~puppy/viewtopic.php?p=12400#12400

edoc · #16 Post by **edoc** » Tue 13 Dec 2005, 02:19

rarsa wrote:Please send the CUPS log file.
The CUPS thread has instructions to do it http://www.murga.org/~puppy/viewtopic.php?p=12400#12400

Followed the instructions

rm -f /var/log/cups/error_log
Run Test Page
tar -czf /root/log.tar.gz /var/log/cups/error_log

and got nothing.

error_log and access_log did not exist so I created them using Ted.

Re-ran the instructions and still nothing, except empty files.

Not sure what to try next.

doc

edoc · #17 Post by **edoc** » Tue 13 Dec 2005, 02:49

Are these instructions still valid? I just went back through the old CUPS discussion and am wondering if I have missed something in the process for getting a useful log output:

9. Print a test page. ----- IF IT DID NOT PRINT --- DO THE FOLLOWING.

10. Tar the error_log file with the following command - from a command line:
TAR -CVZF LOG.TAR.GZ /VAR/LOG/CUPS/*

11. Delete the log file with the following command - from a command line:
RM -F /VAR/LOG/CUPS/ERROR_LOG

12. To open the CONFIGURATION file - from a command line:

LEAFPAD /ETC/CUPS/CUPSD.CONF

change the lines in the file as follows: locate the words "LogLevel info" and change that
to "LogLevel debug". Save and close the file.

13. Delete the log file with the following command - from a command line:
RM -F /VAR/LOG/CUPS/ERROR_LOG

14. Repeat steps 6 and 7 above.

15. Once at the localhost page, delete the printer that you previously installed by clicking on the
delete printer button and completing the steps.

16. Install a new printer and print a test page. If not successful, repeat the process from Step 10
thru Step 13.

doc

rarsa · #18 Post by **rarsa** » Tue 13 Dec 2005, 03:55

I think that you missunderstood.

The commands I listed is to tar (pack) an existing log file. The result of that command will be a file called "log.tar.gz" in the current directory. That's the file you need to attach to your post.

Oh, By the way. Commands in Linux are case sensitive. It is a good practice in the forum to type the commands with the proper casing. If you retype them in upper case you may confuse other people.

I hope this helps.

edoc · #19 Post by **edoc** » Tue 13 Dec 2005, 17:07

rarsa wrote:I think that you missunderstood.
The commands I listed is to tar (pack) an existing log file. The result of that command will be a file called "log.tar.gz" in the current directory. That's the file you need to attach to your post.

I understood. My challenge is that the source file did not exist so I tried to create blank to be populated and that didn't work either.

rarsa wrote:Oh, By the way. Commands in Linux are case sensitive. It is a good practice in the forum to type the commands with the proper casing. If you retype them in upper case you may confuse other people.

I undersant this as well. I just pasted in something from another post typed by another Forum member.

I rarely used caps because of the Linux protocols.

I still am not sure how to resolve the actual problem because log files are not being generated.

doc

rarsa · #20 Post by **rarsa** » Tue 13 Dec 2005, 17:49

The instructions I gave on that thread are still valid.

Here I'm lost I would not know why after you start the CUPS daemon and going to the http://localhost:631, add your printer and try to print to the test page you don't get a log file

After starting the CUPS daemon the log file is created when there is a "LogLevel info" or "LogLevel debug" in the configuration file. (and the instructions tell you how to set the log level).

Sorry I cannot be more helpful.

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Is there a Modern Color Printer that Just Works in Puppy?

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