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fabr1zio

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PostPosted: Mon 12 Jan 2009, 18:12    Post subject:  

Hi MU. Could you tell mewhere could i download youur newyearspupMU.iso from, please ?
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PostPosted: Mon 12 Jan 2009, 18:18    Post subject:  

Fabrizio,
wow has listed the most interesting addons and isos in his first message.

Newyearspup is here:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=263003#263003

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PostPosted: Mon 12 Jan 2009, 18:28    Post subject:  about compiz...  

Nope, it didn't help, me at least... Didn't add any button to desktopchooser...
though, I found my problem, a simple "kill xcompmgr" solved it... just need to find where it autostarts... Thanks anyway, this pup (NewYearsPuP) RoCkS.
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PostPosted: Mon 12 Jan 2009, 18:34    Post subject:  

logimax,
run "desktopoptions" from the menu, it also has an icon on the desktop.
There choose "widgets and shadows".
There you can deactivate the start of xcompmgr.
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PostPosted: Tue 13 Jan 2009, 00:19    Post subject:  

I uploaded to addons-2:
- GoogleEarth-4.3_411.sfs
- Ati-Catalyst-8.12-xorg7.4-k2.6.27.5.pet
Both work in a "pure" unnamed puplet, you do not need other extensions or Newyearspup.
Only Google Earth needs OpenGL, so you need the xorg-input.sfs and mesa.sfs (included in Newyearspup already) or the Ati or Nvidia pet.

The Ati pet has the "fglrx" closed source drivers for Ati cards newer than the 9250.
It overwrites xorg.conf.
Note, "xorgwizard" can no longer be used to select xorg, after this pet was installed. Only to select xvesa.
To fix that, you'd had to move /usr/X11R7/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/fglrx_drv.so to somewhere else.

The pet includes the catalyst center to manage more than one monitor (did not test that myself), colours and more, a small 3D demo "antinspect" to check accelleration, and a script to display the GPU temperature.
All 3 tools can be run from the menu.

The pet tells you to reboot after installation, and you really should do that.
It is 27 MB, and 57 MB extracted (I gained 10 MB by compressing files with upx). So you need around 80 MB free diskspace for installation.

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PostPosted: Tue 13 Jan 2009, 02:36    Post subject: Re: about compiz...  

logimax wrote:
Nope, it didn't help, me at least... Didn't add any button to desktopchooser....


oh sorry, I gave one folder in the pet a wrong name.
Updated it now.
Thanks for pointing me to this error Smile
Glad you found a solution on your own already.
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PostPosted: Wed 14 Jan 2009, 06:28    Post subject:  

well, if an idiot like me can get it going you know it is pretty well thought out! I particularly like the Compiz icon on the desktop, pure genius! if you can't get compiz working you don't have to use it. I don't know how many cd's I've ruined trying to get compiz going and missing some detail and then it won't boot again without lots of work. this one if it doesn't work reboot and it goes back to the regular wm without compiz. anyway I've just started to really play with it and so far success!
a stupid question, if I remaster, will it include the .sfs files (for compiz) in the new disk? if not what do I do? also I may try to make a remaster to be used on other computers, without knowing what video card the other computer has can I simply install all the drivers or will it mess it up? sorry I should be asking in the beginner secton but with compiz it is kinda an advanced question which you guys already playing with this puplet may be better equipped to answer.
here's a screencap with minor customization and compiz working:

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PostPosted: Wed 14 Jan 2009, 06:54    Post subject:  

Hey great, looks very fine! Smile

As I never remaster Puppy, I cannot tell you, if SFS files are included (I don't think so).
But I can tell you, how I would do it.
Maybe this is not needed in your case, though.

Install the Muppyfiler sfs.
Then run from the menu "SFS-Combiner".
Then drag on it a copy of /mnt/home/pup_411.sfs.
You must rename that copy, or SFS-Combiner will refuse it. Call it for example "my-pup_411.sfs".
Then drag on it also the other SFS you want to include, and click on the button to create the new one.

Now replace your existing /mnt/home/pup_411.sfs with the new one.
You should not do that, while it is mounted, so boot Puppy with the option:
puppy pfix=ram
It will be much larger, as it includes your addons.
Now boot with it, and you may remaster.
Now everything should be included.

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PostPosted: Wed 14 Jan 2009, 07:06    Post subject:  

sounds like a plan, I'm going on vacation soon to visit a friend about 2000 miles away and thought I would take a nice Puppy cd with me so I wouldn't have to try to remember all my bookmarks and such. it also gives me an excuse to show Puppy off to my Windows slave friends Laughing I really didn't want to have to try taking much more than a cd. I might try using usb, but then I would have to get his computer to boot to it. I think a cd is going to be easiest. he has a newer computer so it should be up to running Compiz.
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Scott Cool
P.S. is this it?:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=26097

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PostPosted: Thu 15 Jan 2009, 10:38    Post subject:  

well that worked a bit too easily Laughing now to see if it will use the pup_411.sfs from the hard drive when remastering! potentially could I even combine the pupsave with the sfs files? (sorry if I'm hijacking, this is it I promise)
I'm really liking this puplet! I'm not noticing a recycle bin, does it simply delete files? this is one of the problems with running xfce from a live disk, it try's to make a copy of anything you delete into the ramdrive. I think that is why Grey used the little "really delete" program which lets you delete without copying the file. I crashed several times before I realized what it was doing. I tried deleting some large files from the hard drive and it copied them into ram and i don't have 4gig of ram Shocked
if you like I'll keep you posted on my success, kinda a testing against newbies if you know what I mean, if I can figure it out, anyone can.
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PostPosted: Thu 15 Jan 2009, 10:41    Post subject: Printing Question  

As reported earlier, I got my Canon iP4500 to print by installing a Gutenberg 5.2 pet. However, I discovered later that it never prints after a reboot unless I install it again. I've narrowed it down to this code in cups_shell:
Code:
/etc/init.d/cups stop

mkdir -p /usr/share/cups/model/gutenprint/5.2

cups-genppd.5.2

sync

/etc/init.d/cups reload
/etc/init.d/cups start
sleep 1

rm -rf /usr/share/cups/model/gutenprint/5.2/*


What would be the most appropriate way to fix this? It seems that I need to add all or part of this code somewhere?
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PostPosted: Thu 15 Jan 2009, 10:45    Post subject:  

37fleetwood wrote:
a.) ! potentially could I even combine the pupsave with the sfs files? (sorry if I'm hijacking, this is it I promise)

b.) I'm really liking this puplet! I'm not noticing a recycle bin, does it simply delete files?
Scott


a.) yes, but pay attention.
Puppy might not like, if you add /etc/rc.d/PUPSTATE or BOOTCONFIG.
When you run SFS-Combiner, there should be an option to add own files after all the sfs were copied to a temporary location.

This might be the best opportunity, to copy there also customized files, before the new.sfs is created.

b.) Pcmanfm has no trash as far as I know.
Rox has one, so if you use the "icewm" desktop, look if you can disable it with a rightclick or so.

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PostPosted: Thu 15 Jan 2009, 10:52    Post subject: Re: Printing Question  

techtype wrote:
As reported earlier, I got my Canon iP4500 to print by installing a Gutenberg 5.2 pet. However, I discovered later that it never prints after a reboot unless I install it again. I've narrowed it down to this code in cups_shell:
Code:
/etc/init.d/cups stop

mkdir -p /usr/share/cups/model/gutenprint/5.2

cups-genppd.5.2

sync

/etc/init.d/cups reload
/etc/init.d/cups start
sleep 1

rm -rf /usr/share/cups/model/gutenprint/5.2/*


What would be the most appropriate way to fix this? It seems that I need to add all or part of this code somewhere?


I'm not certain.
The gutenprint folder is used only for installation.
genppd creates all the drivers there.
Then when you install one, it is copied to /etc/cups/ppd

Try if this works in a console:
Code:
/etc/init.d/cups stop
/etc/init.d/cups reload
/etc/init.d/cups start


If that works, add these commands to /etc/rc.d/rc.local.
If this still does not work after reboot, you might add it as a script on your desktop, I can help you then with examplecode.

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PostPosted: Thu 15 Jan 2009, 12:46    Post subject: Printing Question - follow up  

Thanks Mark,

You helped me narrow down the code. Your lines are the ones that do the work. I made them into a script and I'll be trying them from rc.local. I'm sure the final solution is in sight!
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PostPosted: Thu 15 Jan 2009, 13:37    Post subject: Printing Question  

It does not work from rc.local even with a long sleep added, but it does work from the end of delayedrun. Thanks again, Mark!! Last night, I was so depressed about it, I thought of going back to Windows. But after a night's sleep, I thought of how to track down the code.
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