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wow

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PostPosted: Thu 08 Jan 2009, 17:52    Post subject:  

double post . . .
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PostPosted: Thu 08 Jan 2009, 17:53    Post subject:  

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Can the xorg from this puppy work on other puppies? If so what must be done to get it to work?

Yes, it should work (I compiled it in Puppy-4.10) as long as you have these dependencies already installed: dbus-1.2.6, dbus-glib-0.78, hal-0.5.11, hal-info (any recent package) and udev-130. If you want 3D acceleration: Mesa-7.2, drm-2.3.1(libs and kernel modules)

But there are some problems:
- Dougal's "Xkb Config Manager" wont work properly.
- (Xinput hotplug) Keyboard layout is set to "us" by default by HAL
- Some options (InputDevice, Monitor and Device options) in xorg.conf will be ignored if X auto configuration is enabled (enabled by default)
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But you could try to pack the whole /usr/X11R7/

You must also pack /etc/X11/*

Kirk reported that he has a working Xorg 7.4 without HAL. This could be the best way to install Xorg on other puppies Try to contact him


EDIT: This is my xorg-7.4 binary package.

[xorg-7.4-i686.wow.tar.bz2] [11.31 MB]

Contents:

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PostPosted: Thu 08 Jan 2009, 18:14    Post subject: BUGFIX
Subject description: Filesystem in user space
 

Fuse is broken in this puplet, please install this package to fix it:

[fuse-2.7.4-i686.pet] [68.44 KB]

It is needed for some tools like acetoneiso and furiousmount (mount Nero, CloneCD, Alcohol120&% , CDRwin, etc disk images)

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Kazm

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PostPosted: Sat 10 Jan 2009, 17:02    Post subject:  

Big thanks you wow and MU for your pupplets!
I hope we will support this puplet with i18n Cool

But I have one problem with my netcard. In our PuppyRus (puppyrus.org) and in Dingo4.1.2 netcard working. Loading sis900 module. But here network interface become eth0_reno Question Why?
So network don't work...

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Fishy

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PostPosted: Sun 11 Jan 2009, 00:09    Post subject: Opera Unexpected Shutdown  

I am running Mu's New years version and have problems with Opera shutting down after leaving the machine to download torrents using Opera's builtin torrent manager. When I come back a couple hours later Opera has shutdown but the rest of the pup seems to be running flawlessly, curious. Confused

One other question, how does one replace the dillo brower icon on the openbox panel with opera? I have looked high and low for a change menu item.

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PostPosted: Sun 11 Jan 2009, 12:30    Post subject: Pcman Dual Window  

Mark,

Could you make a dual window pcmanfm for "Ultrapup" like the one you did here: http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=25699
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PostPosted: Sun 11 Jan 2009, 16:40    Post subject:  

Fishy

about Opera, I'm not certain.
You could try to use "xkill" typed in a console to force to close it.

To customize the Icon in Lxpanel (the bar at top, you mean that?), right-click an icon. This opens a menu to customize the icons. Add there the opera.desktop file from /usr/share/applications/.

techtype
this would require changes in the sources of Pcmanfm.

I am not certain, if wow patched lxdesktop. If yes, I would need his patched source.
If it is not patched, I must search the source for the same version of pcmanfm, and try to reproduce, what I modified in the older one somewhen this week.

Mark

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PostPosted: Sun 11 Jan 2009, 17:36    Post subject: Problems with network and shutdown  

Hello all,

Many thanks to Wow for UP, which seems to be a very nice product.
I have only two problems with it :
- shutdown or reboot give me directly a black screen with no possibility to restart.
- same problem as Kazm with the network. Impossible to connect to Internet. Normally I can connect with other Puppy derivates with the module e100.

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Fishy

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PostPosted: Sun 11 Jan 2009, 17:39    Post subject:  

MU, sorry about the confused posting. Opera shuts down on it's own volition. When I come back to the machine there is the standard desktop with no programs running, Double click opera and away to the races. I have never had a program shut down on it's own before, usually the problem is how to get the damn things to stop running. Laughing

I have left ptorrent and transmissiion running for hours and they haven't shutdown. Normally i would have posted the question in the Users section of the forum but thought that it might be puplet related. Confused

Thanks, John

ps. thinking that this might be my replacement for Dingo 4.12 Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun 11 Jan 2009, 17:56    Post subject: Re: Problems with network and shutdown  

gw wrote:
I have only two problems with it :
- shutdown or reboot give me directly a black screen with no possibility to restart.
gw


Please try the NewyearspupMU.iso.
It contains fixes to allow a proper shutdown.
I'm curious, if that also fixes your problems.
Alternatively, use my icewm_411.sfs with wows Iso, it updates some systemfiles (so backup your savefile first!).

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PostPosted: Sun 11 Jan 2009, 18:05    Post subject:  

(requested)Xorg-7.4 binary package here:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=264200#264200

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PostPosted: Sun 11 Jan 2009, 18:24    Post subject:  

www.virtualbox.org wrote:
VirtualBox is a family of powerful x86 virtualization products for enterprise as well as home use. Not only is VirtualBox an extremely feature rich, high performance product for enterprise customers, it is also the only professional solution that is freely available as Open Source Software under the terms of the GNU General Public License (GPL). See "About VirtualBox" for an introduction.


VitualBox 2.1.0 sfs module (lzma):

Requires:


EDIT: links fixed

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PostPosted: Sun 11 Jan 2009, 18:45    Post subject:  

Kazm wrote:
But I have one problem with my netcard. In our PuppyRus (puppyrus.org) and in Dingo4.1.2 netcard working. Loading sis900 module. But here network interface become eth0_reno Question Why?
So network don't work...

gw wrote:
same problem as Kazm with the network. Impossible to connect to Internet.

It could be a problem with udev, please read these pages to learn how to create a new udev rule to automatically rename your network interface:
http://www.reactivated.net/writing_udev_rules.html#example-netif
http://debianclusters.cs.uni.edu/index.php/Udev:_Renaming_Network_Interfaces
http://www.science.uva.nl/research/air/wiki/LogicalInterfaceNames


MU wrote:
I am not certain, if wow patched lxdesktop. If yes, I would need his patched source.
I removed the "open as root" item in Tools (pcmanfm's menubar), added the rgba patch(useless?) and configured it with --disable-superuser-check or something like that.

MU wrote:
If it is not patched, I must search the source for the same version of pcmanfm, and try to reproduce, what I modified in the older one somewhen this week.

Source code: pcmanfm-0.5.tar.gz

Fishy wrote:
how does one replace the dillo brower icon on the openbox panel with opera?

Edit the config file with a text editor, example:
Code:
leafpad ~/.config/lxpanel/LXDE/panels/top

Replace "id=leafpad.desktop" (line 55) with "id=opera.desktop" and restart lxpanel or X

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logimax

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PostPosted: Mon 12 Jan 2009, 11:58    Post subject: Compiz Fusion  

Hey, Im having problems with compiz.

I have installed:
NewYearsPuP Frugal Install, NVIDIA (latest driver from nvidia.com), Fusion31Dec08.sfs, linux-2.6.27.5-patched-Nov-12-2008.sfs, Firefox.sfs,blender.sfs,songbird.sfs,gimp.sfs, AND pycairo-1.4.12.pet, pygobject-2.14.1.pet, libwnck-2.24.1.pet, pygtk-2.12.pet... the same way I did with the Unnamed PuP, which works there...

But in NewYearsPuP (which looks great BTW) no matter how I try to start compiz, (ALT+F2, RXVT, in xinit.rc) it shuts down Pcman desktop (at least that is what I think is desktop default, maybe it is LXDE?) anyhow it throws me to the desktopchooser, but with compiz running (throwing the cursor to topleft starts expose) ony way to get out of the chooser is to choose LXDE MU, and then get the desktop back by pressing pcmanfm on taskbar, then it starts the desktop, but scrambles the screen a bit, and compiz is running, any thoughts? im blank...
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PostPosted: Mon 12 Jan 2009, 15:35    Post subject:  

logimax,
please install this pet:
http://puppyisos.org/isos/2008-07-to-12/Puppy-4-K2.6.27.5/iso-01/Addons-by-MU-02/addons-2/desktopchooser-lxde-mu-compiz.pet

It is very small, and just adds a new button to the desktopchooser.
You don't need to read the following text, it is just a general instruction for interested people, to add customized desktops.


Hm.. with my Ati 4850 using Catalyst 8.12, I had to patch
/usr/bin/compiz-manager
Code:
   verbose "No whitelisted driver found\n"
   return 1

to:
Code:
return 0
   verbose "No whitelisted driver found\n"
   return 1

Then it worked.


Short Instruction , how is a new desktop added to the desktopchooser:

A new desktop is added like this:

First, you must decide for a name. I use "mydesktop" here.
You need 3 files.

/root/.desktopchooser/desktops/mydesktop

/usr/local/Desktopstarters/startmydesktop

/usr/local/Desktopstarters/stopmydesktop


So how must they look like?
1.) /root/.desktopchooser/desktops/mydesktop

It has two lines.
The first is the text displayed on the button.
Like:
My very own, unique desktop

The second line can be a program, that will be looked for.
If the program does not exist, the button will not be shown.
E.g. if your desktop is based on kicker, you would add here:
kicker
(fixme: this should be extended by me to check for several programs)
Do NOT use an absolute path like /usr/bin/kicker , as the check is done with "which"!

2.) /usr/local/Desktopstarters/startmydesktop
This is the script, that runs your desktop. It must be executable.
The easiest one is the "startjwm", you also could add more commands here:

Code:
#!/bin/sh

#run pcmanfm as daemon to avoid it starts with desktop
pcmanfm -d --no-desktop &

rox -p /root/Choices/ROX-Filer/PuppyPin &
desktoprootwallpaper &

#desktoptrayapps -start &

desktopapplications -start &
desktoprunwm jwm jwm


So what happens here?
First, pcmanfm is started in daemon-mode.
This avoids, that it displays an own desktop covering the Rox-Pinboard (Puppys default desktopicons), in case it is launched by click or from another script.
Then the Rox-Pinboard is displayed.
Then a wallpaper is set for the ROOT window. This is the "real" background of X.
It is the background, that conky uses. It is set from the current rox or pcmanfm wallpaper, depending on which one was chosen before to display the desktopicons.

Next, the applications for the tray are run.
These are selected with the "desktopoptions" utility.
As JWM is not compatible with a standard systray, this is commented here with a "#".

Then, widgets and similar stuff like xcompmgr (windowshadows) are started.
Also these are selected with the "desktopoptions" utility.

Finally, the windowmanager itself is executed.
You may pass 2 values to "desktoprunwm".
The first is the program to start the WM.
The second is the one to kill it.
If they are identical, the second also may be ommitted.
This is required, because some WMs are started by wrapperscripts.

For compiz fusion, this Line looks like this:
desktoprunwm compiz-manager compiz

3.) /usr/local/Desktopstarters/stopmydesktop

This simply exits all services started before. It must be executable.
Look at the existing scripts, this is very short.
Code:
#!/bin/ash

killall pcmanfm

killall ROX-Filer
killall freememapplet
desktopapplications -stop


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Howto add trayapps or widgets to the "desktop-options" utility
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/root/.desktopchooser/apps-tray/
/root/.desktopchooser/apps-widget/

You will find there for example "blinky.txt".
It has 3 lines:
Code:
/root/my-applications/blinky-0.8-icewm/src/blinky
killall blinky
Networktraffic monitor (Tray)


1.) the command to run it
2.) the command to stop it
3.) the text displayed in desktop-options beside the checkboxes.
Thats's all already!
If you add such a file on your own, the desktop-chooser now lets you check/unckeck your own application, and it is run with every desktop!

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