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sfs files and a Full install...how to??
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davesurrey
Joined: 05 Aug 2008 Posts: 1201 Location: UK |
Not sure whether this belongs in "Additional Software" or "Beginners Help"...but here goes.. I have a Full install of 412 which I want to keep and not go to frugal. But..am trying to use some sfs files. I have seen on this forum that with 2xx it wasn't possible to unionise these sfs files. But also I have seen that others have done this with 4XX. Always worth experimenting so.... First I downloaded OpenOffice-3.0.sfs and placed it in /mnt/home. It didn't show up when I went to System>BootManager>Load SFS files and gave the message: ...no SFS files in /mnt/home or wrong _nnn.sfs number.... but then I was not too surprised in a Full install. Note that the orig file didn't have any version number affixed to it but I still got the message when I changed the file name to OpenOffice-3.0_412.sfs. Okay so I then found a script attributed to Dougal:
Tried it with "filename.sfs changed to
as well as
and also with _412.sfs appended but after the second line (mount -o .....) I get " no such file." As others seem to have done this, at least with Picassa.sfs, can anyone offer some help as it does seem that there is a way. Thanks |
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sunburnt
 Joined: 08 Jun 2005 Posts: 4849 Location: Arizona, U.S.A. |
Hi davesurrey; Your code shows a " character at the end (don't know if you typed it that way).
Also Dougal's script mounts the SFS file at: /mnt/data not: /mnt/home |
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Mr. Maxwell
 Joined: 30 Aug 2008 Posts: 215 Location: Nebraska, USA |
Try this thread: http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=37113 Near the bottom of the first page you should find the download for sfsinstaller_full-HD.tar.gz. Download it and run it, should work. Be warned however that it DOES NOT uninstall .sfs files. Hope the helps. _________________ Super amazing game! |
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davesurrey
Joined: 05 Aug 2008 Posts: 1201 Location: UK |
@sunburnt: The " character in my script is a typo in the thread only. The code was okay (didn't have the " in it) when I tried it in Puppy. I think I did try putting the sfs in /mnt/data as well as /mnt/home but it's worth trying that again. Thanks. @Mr. Maxwell: Thanks for the link. I'll give it a go tonight and report back if successful. I'm using an experimental install for this so no worries if I goof it up. Thanks for the help both of you. Cheers Dave |
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rcrsn51
 Joined: 05 Sep 2006 Posts: 8532 Location: Stratford, Ontario |
When you open a console and type a command, you need to be in the same folder as the .sfs file. Use the "ls" command to verify that you are in the right place. |
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Sit Heel Speak
 Joined: 30 Mar 2006 Posts: 2595 Location: downwind |
Try creating /mnt/OO3 first, and specify filesystemtype in mount, and flush the buffers with sync before unmounting:
Last edited by Sit Heel Speak on Sat 10 Jan 2009, 00:17; edited 2 times in total |
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davesurrey
Joined: 05 Aug 2008 Posts: 1201 Location: UK |
@rcrsn51 thanks but I was aware of that. @SHS I tried your script. I guess you meant
All worked up to and including sync and the app (I used picasa2.7_400.sfs) loaded fine . But I couldn't unmount either using "umount" from the term or by clicking the file. Had to reboot. Then tried the same with openoffice-2.2.0.sfs and OpenOffice-3.0.sfs Same issues as above but both files install by ripping the ar** out of my desktop so much that I can't get it back to default. Strange as this didn't happen when I used the same sfs files with a frugal install. They could have got corrupted (both of them though??) and I can't find the md5 to check them anymore. You don't have a link for them do you?? Anyone?? Google didn't come up with anything useful. In general using sfs files with a full install seems much trickier and flakier than I would have hoped for. SHS , grateful for your help but can you see where the umount may be failing and why it seems to affect the desktop so much when it doesn't in frugal. Thanks Dave[/code] |
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Sit Heel Speak
Joined: 30 Mar 2006 Posts: 2595 Location: downwind |
Woops you're right, rm -Rf not rmdir...and, ah, dummie me twice...you can't rm a subdir which you are currently in, as the rxvt window makes it remain in use, therefore not unmountable...see the revised version, above, of my code snippet. Change dir out of /mnt/OO3 into / before you umount /mnt/OO3   
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drblock2
Joined: 19 Jan 2009 Posts: 130 |
For some reason, the boot manager (Puppy 4.2) does not install OpenOffice-3.1.sfs (at least not if it is third in line behind devxx and wine). There is an easy work around using ROX: In ROX, go to /mnt/home, click on OpenOffice-3.1.sfs. This automatically makes a subdirectory and unpacks the code. Go to the subdirectory "+mnt+home+OpenOffice-3.1.sfs" and click through to /opt/openoffice.org3/program". In ROX, drag the icon soffice.bin to the desk top along with any of the icons for individual programs you might wish to start directly (e.g., swrite). You can now start openoffice by clicking on the dest-top icon. When you reboot, the icons will display the warning triangle (because the sfs file is not mounted). Simply navigate to /mnt/home in ROX and click on the OpenOffice-3.1.sfs icon and your desk-top icons will come to life (when you pass the mouse pointer over them). You are in business. Should you wish to unmount openoffice before rebooting, just close the application and click on the OpenOffice-3.1.sfs icon in /mnt/home again. [Update!] As I have noted elsewhere, http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=42744&start=15 It is essential to install OpenOffice-3.1.sfs in a directory other than /mnt/home. Otherwise, CUPS will not function. Last edited by drblock2 on Sat 06 Jun 2009, 09:16; edited 1 time in total |
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dejan555
 Joined: 30 Nov 2008 Posts: 2537 Location: Montenegro |
I've made a SFS install script also, it doesn't uninstall files neither, it's simple to use, just right click on sfs file-> "install" Here's the topic: http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=40779 there's yet another sfs installer atached there which does uninstall files: http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=298284#298284 _________________ 
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Bruce B
 Joined: 18 May 2005 Posts: 11030 Location: The Peoples Republic of California |
dejan555 when writing these scripts: Uses his 'noggin; Knowing what is doing; Knowing why he is doing it. ================ As for the continuing perpetuation if this advice: cp -a * / There is no discussion WHAT the command does, it is obvious! Yet, who will step up to the plate and explain WHY? _________________ New! Puppy Linux Links Page |
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peterw
Joined: 19 Jul 2006 Posts: 54 Location: UK |
Hi This may be useful to you. I to have had problems loading .sfs files for a full install and once I found a script that did it fine but unfortunately, have misplaced it. However, I have located a pet package for openoffice 3 that works fine with puppy 4.2 and puts the start commands in the menu ie In Calculate you get OpenOffice- Calc spreadsheet. You can also drag icons onto the desktop. The address of the site is http://www.leprichaunproductions.com/evil20071/pet_packages/puppy_4/ It installed fine even though it complained about a lot of missing dependencies. And so far I can't see anything wrong with it. In the past I have used a openoffice 2.4 pet that complained about missing dependencies and that was always ok. Of course you have the ability to uninstall it. Regards |
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Bruce B
Joined: 18 May 2005 Posts: 11030 Location: The Peoples Republic of California |
How's that work? The friendly packager didn't test his work, and uploaded it as a 'job well done' This isn't the first Puppy package that didn't cut the muster. The .pet extension is the only requisite for knowing the package is faithful? Do the packagers put their name or handle in the package? It this even recommended in the packaging instructions. How about the possibility that a .pet was package made on a modified Puppy which already some dependency files installed earlier? Is the packager a careful and considerate enough worker to test his gift on a clean pup_save file to see if it works? Is this final step even recommended? If packagers were required to sign the packages, at least we could learn who's doing it to you and who's doing it for you. Bruce _________________ New! Puppy Linux Links Page |
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