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Puppy 4.2 - Desktop and Artwork
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01micko


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PostPosted: Thu 25 Dec 2008, 06:02    Post subject:  

zigbert wrote:
01micko
The rox window on your screenshot shows the icon2desk function in combination with the stardust icons. Be aware that the Stardust icon-theme is not updated to match the standard required for the icon2desk function. Only DeepThought and JQ8flat-lite is built with the new icon-theme-standard.

Sigmund

I kind of figured something like that because many icons are missing. No matter though, just playing around. Wink

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PostPosted: Sun 28 Dec 2008, 15:17    Post subject:  

hopefully the deepthought theme will make it into puppy 4.2.

but if it does not i do know one other place you could almost be guaranteed to have in go into.

i decided i would try to revive puppy 3.02, and tronkel and ttuuxxx seem to like my idea. and currently i'm now the coordinator of it. So i call a good amount of the shots, while i have tronkel and ttuuxxx giving me advice.

so if it does not make it into 4.2. all you need to do is rename it lassie or chihuahua, and it's very likely it might get in 3.02CE.

it's true, ask tronkel or ttuuxxx if you want. And i hope for the best for you and your theme Zigbert.

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PostPosted: Mon 29 Dec 2008, 03:25    Post subject:  

Hey WhoDo I have something you wanted???? Ok Guess..........................................................................................................................
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nope thats not it
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nope still not it
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ok give up?????????
LOL sorry I had too Smile
ok ok here it is, You asked for a icewm around 1.5MB, Well I figured around 1MB but I managed to even reduce that to almost half, hows 550kb including 1 theme? This is the smallest I think I can get. within 50kb or so
here ya gooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
have fun
just install the pet and restartX, thats it, plus I didn't touch xinitrc what so ever Smile
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PostPosted: Mon 29 Dec 2008, 04:03    Post subject:  

ttuuxxx wrote:
Hey WhoDo I have something you wanted???? ...[snip bragging .... and baiting .... Razz ] You asked for a icewm around 1.5MB, Well I figured around 1MB but I managed to even ruduce that to almost half, hows 550kb including 1 theme?

Holy $h!t and WOW, Jeff!!! Shocked

I just tested it and it works brilliantly!!!! It's in, IN, IN! Heck, 148kb of that is in the THEME! Shocked Shocked Shocked

AND ... it goes back to JWM at the single click of a button! Now if someone would edit the JWM menu files so you could quick click to start IceWM from JWM then our users would have the best of all worlds .... especially since Zigbert's Pwidgets stay live and active through the switch!! Yeehah!!!

Great job, ttuuxxx!

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PostPosted: Mon 29 Dec 2008, 12:21    Post subject:  

J-Bob wrote:
hopefully the deepthought theme will make it into puppy 4.2.

but if it does not i do know one other place you could almost be guaranteed to have in go into.
Remember that all I do for Puppy is freely available, but in respect of Puppy 4.2 - WhoDo should choose first. Else, I hope my contributions will be used when someone finds them good enough.


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PostPosted: Mon 29 Dec 2008, 12:23    Post subject:  

The DeepThought_jwm_tray package has been upgraded to version 0.4.
See main post.
This is a fix that is critical when using the latest Pwidgets addition: Photo slideshow widget.


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PostPosted: Mon 29 Dec 2008, 12:48    Post subject:  

Sigmund I think WhoDo wants your JWM+Themes as the main default windows manager and also add IceWm as a built in alternative, Because what you 've done to JWM is just totally excellent:) I just made it possible to have an extra for others to enjoy. Heck why not mess around with my theme and build a new taskbar and menu, Its only a couple of tiny images. Smile You did a great job with JWM.
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PostPosted: Mon 29 Dec 2008, 17:20    Post subject:  

zigbert wrote:
Remember that all I do for Puppy is freely available, but in respect of Puppy 4.2 - WhoDo should choose first. Else, I hope my contributions will be used when someone finds them good enough.

Deepthought gtk theme, icons, JWM mods, etc are all part of Puppy 4.2 "Deepthought" and will be the default settings. I have already built 2 pre-alphas based on that. Those also included Pwidgets installed at boot.

Puppy is all about choice, too. I have included ttuuxxx's brilliant minimalist IceWM 1.2.36 as an alternative because it is easily small enough to do that. On my reckoning about 95% of the community uses either one or the other wm, and this way they will ALL be happy for very little additional cost.

As promised, however, JWM will be the default. That's why I have asked for someone familiar with JWM to sort out its ability to switch to IceWM. ttuuxxx has IceWM switching seamlessly to JWM; I just need that to work both ways.

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PostPosted: Mon 29 Dec 2008, 18:05    Post subject:  

Sigmund
I notice the icon in "DeepThought" for Abiword is the font icon, 'TT'. I have been using the "Darkfire" Abiword icon in with your "DeepThought" icons.
I coppied 'word48.png' from /usr/local/lib/X11/themes/Darkfire to /usr/local/lib/X11/themes/DeepThought, then reset the icon theme with 'Menu|Desktop|Desktop Icon Switcher.
I just thought it looked better. It fits in quite well.

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PostPosted: Mon 29 Dec 2008, 22:54    Post subject:  

[quote="WhoDo"]
zigbert wrote:

That's why I have asked for someone familiar with JWM to sort out its ability to switch to IceWM. ttuuxxx has IceWM switching seamlessly to JWM; I just need that to work both ways.

Cheers


Whodo I have an idea, I'll try to work it, What I need from you is a copy of
/etc/xdg/templates/_root_.jwmrc with all the changes by zigbert. I would have to amened it. To use a new script idea Smile
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PostPosted: Mon 29 Dec 2008, 23:24    Post subject:  

ttuuxxx wrote:
What I need from you is a copy of
/etc/xdg/templates/_root_.jwmrc with all the changes by zigbert. I would have to amened it. To use a new script idea Smile

Here ya go, mate. Cool
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PostPosted: Mon 29 Dec 2008, 23:43    Post subject:  

Here is my curent desktop, all current `DeepThought' applied, with my idea for Abi icon, hacked clock and slideshow frame widgets. I'll add all those hacks to the Analog-clock `howto' and rename it, I'll do weather too.

BTW the pic in the slideshow is of the Australian Open 2007 when my wife went. Just coincidence it came up as I snapped the screenshot, suits the green clock and frame. Smile
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PostPosted: Tue 30 Dec 2008, 03:17    Post subject:  

Ok here ya go again, this time jwm has a icewm button when you click the button it activates a tiny script that copies a defaultwm file, that has icewm-session on it, into etc then it just restarts x server. So it will automatically start icewm. There is no seamless option for jwm to restart another window manager like icewm does. But this works, just not as well as icewm does it. Oh well I'll keep looking
anyways heres a test model.
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PostPosted: Tue 30 Dec 2008, 03:42    Post subject:  

the only problem that it has would be when you switch from icewm>>jwm then when your in jwm and restart X server, it reverts back to icewm because its using the defaultwm from etc that was changed to fix this I might have to make 1 more script in icewm that copies a jwm defaultwm file to etc and then executes the seamless transition. hmmm that would work Smile in theory, here I go again. lol who song that "Here I go again on my own" hmmm maybe whitesnake from the 80's?? song popped into my head while typing this, lol
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PostPosted: Tue 30 Dec 2008, 05:40    Post subject: Grey  

Fantastic...it isnt GREY!!!!

Well...Much Smile

I think that the MENU button should be re-labelled "Start". This is what new users will be expecting.

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