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ttuuxxx


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PostPosted: Fri 12 Dec 2008, 10:05    Post subject:  

Your removed xsoldier-1.4 what were you thinking, for the love that is all and good. No wonder why most of the world is in a recession. Other than than that, this looks very interesting. I'll give it a spin on sunday Smile
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cookies

Joined: 12 Dec 2008
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PostPosted: Fri 12 Dec 2008, 10:58    Post subject:  Cool  

Cool.

This version is terrific in visual effects. Xorg 7.4 works fine on my old laptop with ATI 7500.

Though Dillo seems too lightweighted to be burdened with ad pics. It really needs an ad blocker.

No flashplayer is included in the pupplet. Now I am trying to install from Adobe.
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MU


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PostPosted: Fri 12 Dec 2008, 11:17    Post subject:  

first impressions

System
Pentium III 700, 1GB Ram, Ati Radeon 9250.

There is a radeon dri module, but X starts with vesa, as there is no ati driver module.
So I just get 1024x768, not 1680x1050.

Despite of this, the effects look nice, and are fast!
Gtk applications have a transparent menubar, and the panel has dropshadows.
With the correct resolution, this would look pretty cool.

As there is only dillo, the first thing to install will be opera or firefox.
This is ok, so this puplet stays small, and can be easily used to build customized puplets.

It seems to have system daemons like hal and messagebus, so it could be a great base to add a KDE.sfs. But I had no closer look at the daemons yet.

Priorities I see:
1.) wow, can you package the whole xorg as a sfs?
2.) And then, the devx will have high priority, so that we could compile own stuff. I am aware, that it will take you some time to set it up, because of all the upgraded libs like gtk or xorg.

Thanks for making this great release available, despite it still misses some important things!
It is so promising, that it really should get the required extensions Smile
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prit1


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PostPosted: Fri 12 Dec 2008, 12:18    Post subject:  

aragon wrote:

- multicore enabled?


It might be multi core enabled. Atleast Conky for the lappy i tried on showed two CPU's and their respective loads.

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PostPosted: Fri 12 Dec 2008, 12:31    Post subject:  

Looks like it has hyperthreading support too. Cool.
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Jim1911

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PostPosted: Fri 12 Dec 2008, 17:13    Post subject:  

wow

Another incredible derivative from you. Great start for a fine little derivative that has hugh potential as is, but especially as an up-to-date core for user added applications.

Your basic derivative worked fine with my Dell Dimension 8250, Pent 4 at 2.40Ghz, 1.5GB ram, 128 MB ATI Radeon 9700 Pro graphics card, and Soundblaster Live audio except for the audio. The ALSA sound wizard opens a console and closes immediately.

Then I started making additions which all worked properly. Firepup, aMSN, and Gslapt pets, then using Gslapt installed Thunderbird. Next I converted the save file from 2fs to 3fs.

Since you had already set up haldaemon, I tried KDE 3.5.8 and 3.5.10 sfs and gnome2.20.sfs all along with Openoffice3.sfs. KDE 3.5.8 worked properly, KDE 3.5.10 mounted properly and applications seemed to work properly but would not boot into the KDE interface. Your Gnome worked properly except for the applets at bootup which failed to load.

Thanks again for your superb work,
Jim
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wow

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PostPosted: Fri 12 Dec 2008, 18:36    Post subject:  

@prit1: I haven't compiled extra drivers yet, because I don't need them. I'll make a .pet later.

@aragon: Multicore? yes. tickless idle? Can't remember Laughing look at /etc/modules/DOTconfig-k2.6.27.5 for more info.

@people complaining about dillo: You can use this SFS by "Wolf Pup": [Firefox 3.03 with Java and Flash ] or install seamonkey again with petget Wink

@Raffy: LXR? it's not cool enough!! (I was just kidding)

@ttuuxxx: "Your removed xsoldier-1.4 what were you thinking, for the love that is all and" Laughing

@MU: Oops I forgot that ati driver. I'll make an SFS with more xorg and dri drivers as soon as I get some time to compile them. But without the nv driver, xorgwizard configures my xorg.conf file with 19 Device Sections and 19 Monitors !!! My iGPU(GeForce 7050) is not supported.

@Jim1911: Yes this ISO has HAL, DBUS and udev. About your sound card, try to: logout and run 'alsaconf' again. I'm testing that gnome.sfs too, don't know why the clock applet failed to load, if you want to try epiphany first install 'flash' and 'firefox' from petget (puppy4 repo) also install xine lib for Totem.

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wow

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PostPosted: Fri 12 Dec 2008, 18:55    Post subject:  

I forgot to add LXLauncher to the autostart list.


If you would like to test lxlauncher please paste this code in any terminal window:
Code:
cat > ~/.config/autostart/lxlauncher.desktop << "EOF"
[Desktop Entry]
Type=Application
Encoding=UTF-8
Version=1.0
Name=LXLauncher
Comment=Open source clone of Asus launcher
Exec=lxlauncher
EOF


Now run 'lxsession-edit', disable Conky from the list and logout:


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Sometimes conky shows the background image incorrectly, to fix it copy and paste these lines in a terminal window:
Code:
cat > ~/my-applications/bin/restart-lxde.sh << "EOF"
#!/bin/sh
killall pcmanfm
killall lxpanel
pcmanfm > /dev/null &
sleep 1
lxpanel --profile LXDE > /dev/null &
EOF

chmod +x ~/my-applications/bin/restart-lxde.sh


Now press Alt+F2 to launch the run dialog and type restart-lxde.sh


Bugs:

Osmo requires libnotify [download here]
Alsamixer can't be started from menu
Do not ever launch alsaconf(Alsa sound wizard) if X is running.

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bezeen

Joined: 16 Nov 2007
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PostPosted: Fri 12 Dec 2008, 22:14    Post subject: unnamed  

Your puppy could be THE PUPPY everyone looking up on;

LEXPUPPY

I cant remember much from my history class (or Gladiator - but LEX a do remember...)

Your puppy isn't a new colosseum but its good. (LXDE = LEX, a think its okej but not spot on)

thx for a good puplet
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PostPosted: Fri 12 Dec 2008, 22:45    Post subject:  

as my remark on gladiator suggest - you should work a little more on multimedia. Codecs or a really god player...
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37fleetwood


Joined: 09 Aug 2007
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PostPosted: Sat 13 Dec 2008, 09:08    Post subject:  

very cool! I looked at lxde when I was considering my first puplet. way over my heat at this time, but the best way to learn to swim is to be thrown in! (also the best way to drown) the greatest thing about Puppy is the guys like you who do things just to see them done. to many Icewm would be just fine with no need to try something new. I love trying all the different flavours of Linux and you guys are the best. I also looked at EDE here:
http://equinox-project.org/
and Étoilé here:
http://etoileos.com/etoile/
I like EDE as it looks to be a very retro win95 looking desktop and may be great for "new-to-Linux" types such as myself. (I still miss Windows 95c). have you considered making a puplet using it? anyway LXDE looks great, thanks for making great stuff for us to try out!
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PostPosted: Sat 13 Dec 2008, 22:39    Post subject:  

http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_177.82.html wrote:

Linux Display Driver - x86

Version: 177.82
Operating System: Linux x86
Release Date: November 12, 2008

For GeForce 6 and newer

Download:
[nvidia-177.82-k2.6.27.5.pet] [filefront.com]
[nvidia-177.82-k2.6.27.5.pet] [puppyisos.org]

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magerlab

Joined: 08 Jul 2007
Posts: 731

PostPosted: Sun 14 Dec 2008, 04:35    Post subject:  

really good gifts for New Year!
So many nice pupplets for any taste!
even for those who want a freshest kernel and "lightgnome" feel
surprisingly pcmanfm can mount drives and correctly shows russian file names on vfat ( i hacked pmount before Very Happy )

what mediaplayer acts best with xcompmgr?

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zygo

Joined: 08 Apr 2006
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PostPosted: Sun 14 Dec 2008, 07:26    Post subject: yipee my lcd works  

Wow wow! Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

Unnamed is the first Linux to display on my LCD monitor properly. Thanks very much.

Actually, I haven't tried many Linuxes but I did struggle with Xorg and Puppy 4.0 for a while. I read a webpage that baically said give up if you have an LCD which isn't 96 dpi but I knew other LCDs had worked. Could they all be precisely 96 dpi?

I have an acer X193W 1440x900 and an intel 82946 card in my newer acer pc. My other pc's monitor is a CRT which is getting more blurred by the day. Without getting the LCD working the demise of the CRT would have mean't the end of Linux for me unless I could have bought a new CRT.

It's also the first time that Xorg has worked for me on LCD or CRT - the latter with 2 cards. No conincidence I know. I'd like to get it working on the official Puppy 4 series. It's not just a matter of compiling Xorg 7.4 is it?

Anyway, I tested Unnamed only briefly:
Nice that it comes with cdp. Mmm no sound from the cd so I clicked the alsa wizard from the menu; a box flashed up and the panel at the top disappeared. However it runs from the command line. Still no cd sound. I know; acer will have skimped on the 20 pence audio cable. I have spares so I open it up.. It turns out they've skimped on the 20 pence audio socket on the dvd drive. Progress.
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Schism


Joined: 12 Dec 2008
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PostPosted: Sun 14 Dec 2008, 12:46    Post subject:  

This is one of my favorites. Though there are a few problems. I like it. Thank You!
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