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#41 Post by polymath »

@aitch, you should really try kubuntu intrepid, i used to be a GNOME person but the new KDE 4 is amazing.

Anyway, i'll try to get more extensions in netbeans, and if i can get everything to work the way i want it, maybe eventually replace code::blocks. Though i love it, redundant applications (that weigh in the same as the default puppy ISO) cost too much space, and the ISO is about 400 MB now.

Also, maybe i'll give compiling the KDE and GNOME libraries, that'd help a whole lot of people...

Anyone know how to make puppy multiuser? I know grafpup has that option, but do you know how he did it?

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#42 Post by droope »

I would like to offer myself to make a design for your website, only 3000$








J/k :P For free... If you'd like, i'm bored and i'll start doing it anyway. I'll let you know.

Cheers!
dRoope

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#43 Post by Lobster »

Look forward to your website droope.
:)

I prefer netbeans (to answer the question)
one thing I found, is the tutorials in Netbeans do not start firepup

but if you go to tools/options from the Netbeans menu
you can change browser under 'general' to
/usr/bin/firefox
Puppy Raspup 8.2Final 8)
Puppy Links Page http://www.smokey01.com/bruceb/puppy.html :D

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#44 Post by polymath »

Alright.

I'm going to update netbeans to v6.5stable instead of the 6.5 beta. Also, i'm going to try a technique to change some netbeans configurations, like that autocloseing function, which is SO annoying. I'll also make it include Ruby and C++ support (any other langs?). PHP is already installed. MySQL, don't know how to configure for puppy, keeps spitting out error messages about missing tempfiles, i'll work on that later (unless someone happens to have a .PET for the latest MySQL).

Oh, and a web design would be great, if you'd be willing. I can give you user/pass to the web site hosting ( at 110mb.com, great free hosting ).

I'll give those libraries a stab tonight.

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#45 Post by polymath »

Alright. I have a few new packages. First is svn. Even though devx includes svn, it doesn't have ssl support, so i found a recompile that supported ssl on a fresh install of puppy. Next, there's Cmake, Dbus, and Dbus-GLib, which are deps for KDElibs, which will end up being an addon package (or SFS). Also, i'm going to compile a gnome sfs. All this will be tested and out before new-years. Versions will be KDE 4.3 and GNome 2.24.2. KDE will include Kdevelop pet as well. Alright, now i need to make yet another dep!

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#46 Post by Jim1911 »

polymath
Also, i'm going to compile a gnome sfs. All this will be tested and out before new-years. Versions will be KDE 4.3 and GNome 2.24.2. KDE will include Kdevelop pet as well. Alright, now i need to make yet another dep!
Quite an undertaking, I'm looking forward to seeing those since I'm a fan of both. Sorry that I don't have the knowledge to help in the compliation.

Jim

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#47 Post by polymath »

Wow, I feel really stupid.

I was tired and just copying and pasting commands from kde's tech base into the terminal, and forgot that i needed to initialize DBUSDIR before i used it as the installation prefix... so i need to do a complete reconfigure so that it'll install into /usr. Next time i'll be more careful :)

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#48 Post by polymath »

There are no guides for installing gnome from source! all they say is use this autobuilder, which doesn't install :( Besides, i need to manually do new2dir. Oh well, i just have to download a billion tarballs and just for the tar command to extract them all, then do a cd dir, make, new2dir make install, cd .., repeat. It'll take a while.

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#49 Post by Aitch »

......which will end up being an addon package (or SFS). Also, i'm going to compile a gnome sfs......
friendly advice

be consistent - SFS is the preferred option others seem to be favouring :wink:

Aitch :)

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#50 Post by polymath »

so a .PET for the small stuff, and SFS for everything else? I probably wouldn't bother with an sfs for stuff under 5-10MB.

Anyway, things are going good, though QT is taking FOREVER to compile. Yes, i know there is a repo version of QT, but i'm making sure that it is configured correctly with KDE. I am betting that a few hours of compiling now will save me days worth of stuggling with reconfig later.

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#51 Post by droope »

Hi!

I am having troubles with my pc... 4.0 is crashing repeatedly when using gimp, and I can't install it in 2.17...

I'm a design noob, but i've got some serious ideas for the website, you'll have to wait and see :)


Cheers!
Droope

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#52 Post by droope »

Hi.

Check what i've done:

http://develpup.110mb.com/


I'm (and it's) a work in progress, but i did put a lot of love ( :oops: ) on that template, since it is the 4th template i've done from scratch.

I hope you like it, i'm struggling with the copyright thingie... I need to put it because if I dont the maincontents table touches the bottom of the screen.

A question, do u see the copyright right in the middle of the screen or in the bottom? I am thinking that perhaps my outdated seamonkey doesn't support the css i am using ...

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#53 Post by Aitch »

A question, do u see the copyright right in the middle of the screen or in the bottom? I am thinking that perhaps my outdated seamonkey doesn't support the css i am using ...
No, droope

nothing at all on mine, last line is
Any of these can be used with traditional she-bang syntax #![shell]
however there is a very small [6pt?] line at the top, overlaying the dark blue bars on dark background(logo?)
Develpup is licenced under the GPL and is under development by polymath.
Design by droopdesign.
This dark backgrounded square also overlays the first 4 lines of bugfixes as well as some of the previous body text, if that helps

I'm not a web page designer, but it looks as though the page is made up of layers, & maybe needs the main text to be the top layer instead of mid layer, you understand, yes?

Hopefully you will see this as constructive criticism & not be deterred :wink:

Aitch :)

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#54 Post by droope »

Aitch wrote:
A question, do u see the copyright right in the middle of the screen or in the bottom? I am thinking that perhaps my outdated seamonkey doesn't support the css i am using ...
No, droope

nothing at all on mine, last line is
Any of these can be used with traditional she-bang syntax #![shell]
however there is a very small [6pt?] line at the top, overlaying the dark blue bars on dark background(logo?)
Could you send me a shot? thanks
Develpup is licenced under the GPL and is under development by polymath.
Design by droopdesign.
This dark backgrounded square also overlays the first 4 lines of bugfixes as well as some of the previous body text, if that helps
yeah, i know... don't know how to solve it tho.
I'm not a web page designer, but it looks as though the page is made up of layers, & maybe needs the main text to be the top layer instead of mid layer, you understand, yes?

Hopefully you will see this as constructive criticism & not be deterred :wink:
Of course ;)

Aitch :)
Thanks 4 ur answer, wrote in red

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#55 Post by Aitch »

Hmmm

you changed it again, but here is the small 6pt? text + dark overlay

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#56 Post by droope »

I killed that, it doesn't wanna work.




psst. He's using XP!
:P

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#57 Post by polymath »

Nice site. Now i need to make my puplet look that good :)

Dependency hell right now. Post later.

EDIT: It seems like the bar below the logo you made does not have consist of links even though this appears to be what they are there for. Is this on purpose? You've done a great job with the site. Looks great.

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#58 Post by polymath »

OK.

I have been busy, but i haven't been very successful with KDE. My main problem is with compiling kdesupport, where i have several errors. This is copied'n'pasted from my help thread on KDE forums:
Hey,

I'm running puppy linux and was compiling KDE 4 from the trunk branch on SVN. When i go to compile kdesupport, i get:

----------------------------------------------

[ 0%] Built target automoc4
[ 0%] Building CXX object akonadi/libs/CMakeFiles/akonadiprotocolinternals.dir/notificationmessage.cpp.o

In file included from /usr/include/QtDBus/qdbusextratypes.h:45,
from /usr/include/QtDBus/qdbusargument.h:48,
from /usr/include/QtDbus/QDbusArgument:1,
from /root/kdesupport/akonadi/libs/notificationmessage_p.h:28:
/usr/include/QtDBus/qdbusmacros.h:65: error: expected constructor, destructor, or type conversion before 'typedef'
/usr/include/QtDBus/qdbusmacros.h:66: error 'QT_END_NAMESPACE' does not name a type

In file included from /usr/include/QtDBus/qdbusargument.h:48,
from /usr/include/QtDBus/QDBusArgument:1,
from /root/kdesupport/akonadi/libs/notificationmessage_p.h:28,
from /root/kdesupport/akonadi/libs/notificationmessage.cpp:20:
/usr/include/QtDBus/qdbusextratypes.h:148: error: expected constructor, destructor, or type conversion before 'template'
make[2]: *** [akonadi/libs/CMakeFiles/akonadiprotocolinternals.dir/notificationmessage.cpp.o] Error 1
make[1]: *** [akonadi/libs/CmakeFiles/akonadiprotocolinternals.dir/all] Error 2
make: *** [all] Error 2

---------------------------------

I'm pretty sure this is a problem with preprocessor macros in one of the header files, but i'm not sure. Can someone shed more light on this? Thanks!
So, since i last posted, to make up for KDE's failure to compile, i have compiled GNUcoreutils and am currently 'making' mono+bless, along with making several other changes to add several development packages and such (which you probably won't notice unless you do a LOT of compiling and stumble into them :) ).

If anyone could help with my KDE problem, it would be much appretiated. Any suggestions on how to make the puplet greater would be greatly thanked too.

Oh, almost forgot: Have updated netbeans and java. The next release will have both netbeans AND codeblocks, and all the "major" language plugins for the former (ie ruby, cpp, etc.).

I know you are probably going "Oh, this is getting boring. Just sitting here waiting for him to publish the ISO, which hasn't had a new release for a LONG time", but please, be patient, i'm going as fast as i can.

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#59 Post by Evil20071 »

polymath wrote:Website: http://www.develpup.110mb.com

...
DOOD! That's the same hosting I use. :D PM me and I can totally lend a hand with site upkeep and coding and such. If you've been on their support forums, you'll find me as RBCFAQS. ;) I might be able to talk Andre and the admins into donating to our cause if I'm lucky. They kinda love me and all. :D

Now that I'm done with that rant...

Do you have the GCC or CC or CL or any of those compilers laying around? They would nearly have to be there, and I'd kinda like a copy for myself, if you don't mind sharing. ;)
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#60 Post by polymath »

That'd be great. Anything about the website you'd have to talk to droope, the last thing i did about the site was create the account and change index.html so that i didn't get my account closed. The only thing that i don't really like about it is that it gives me so much space and bandwidth but doesn't let me host anything over 8MB... All i really need is to host the absolute latest and greatest ISO and maybe a sfs or two...

Even upgrading to paid (bleh) hosting wouldn't give me anywhere near the file upload limit. Most free servers are really slow. I'm extremely happy with puppyisos.org right now but i feel bad leeching off of MU's bandwidth.

Hey, what do you mean by "lying around?" Yes, they are included in the puplet for obvious reasons. Yes, i have a copy of devx for 4.00 on me. What are you asking, exactly?

Anyway, i've gone off on a tangent. JDK has been updated, netbeans is taking it's time downloading plugins, and mono has finished making.

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