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Dingo


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PostPosted: Tue 02 Dec 2008, 11:29    Post_subject:  

is
Muppy-Live-008.4c-EN.iso

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PostPosted: Tue 02 Dec 2008, 12:35    Post_subject:  

Sage wrote:
Got me confused now (not difficult, though!).
Is this one:
http://dl2.ftpload.com/ozdppfriyscc/Muppy-Live-008.4c-EN.iso
Mark's new version 008.4.c4 ?
If not, has his upload been completed? Where?


No.
008.4.c4 still uploads, and I need to wait for the "ok" concerning traffic from the hoster.
The upload itself should finish today, but then we need to wait for the "ok".
I will inform you, when 008.4.c4 is available.
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PostPosted: Wed 03 Dec 2008, 04:50    Post_subject:  

Sage wrote:
Got me confused now (not difficult, though!).
Is this one:
http://dl2.ftpload.com/ozdppfriyscc/Muppy-Live-008.4c-EN.iso
Mark's new version 008.4.c4 ?
If not, has his upload been completed? Where?

Yes. Thank-you, Sage. You've found it spot on.

This is the ISO I've been searching for. It is much appreciated.

Thanks!
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PostPosted: Wed 03 Dec 2008, 05:03    Post_subject:  

MU wrote:
Sage wrote:
Got me confused now (not difficult, though!).
Is this one:
http://dl2.ftpload.com/ozdppfriyscc/Muppy-Live-008.4c-EN.iso
Mark's new version 008.4.c4 ?
If not, has his upload been completed? Where?


No.
008.4.c4 still uploads, and I need to wait for the "ok" concerning traffic from the hoster.
The upload itself should finish today, but then we need to wait for the "ok".
I will inform you, when 008.4.c4 is available.
Mark


So, if I understand you correctly, 008.4 is not what we want, but 008.4.c4, then?
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venger

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PostPosted: Wed 03 Dec 2008, 05:42    Post_subject:  

Hi there, i've been trying to find a link for downloading muppy-mini .. but the links seem to be down?!

does anyone know of a working link?

cheers,
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PostPosted: Wed 03 Dec 2008, 06:29    Post_subject:  

download from here:
http://puppylover.netsons.org/dokupuppy/pupplets:muppy-mini

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PostPosted: Thu 04 Dec 2008, 06:40    Post_subject:  

thanks dingo,

the iso's there - but no sign of the extra sfs files tho eg: addons.sfs, games.sfs, office.sfs ... are these available somewhere too?

ta,
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PostPosted: Thu 04 Dec 2008, 13:59    Post_subject:  

Will there be a German muppy-mini 008.4c too?
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PostPosted: Thu 04 Dec 2008, 14:10    Post_subject:  

fuddel, yes.
There will be a Muppy-mini 0084c4 german.

The older versions 0084c with all extensions I also can upload, until weekend maybe, to my own server.
I have no information yet about the old 0084 files at kimsufi.com.
At moment I restore puppyfiles.ca.

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PostPosted: Fri 05 Dec 2008, 11:11    Post_subject:  

I uploaded again the 008.4c MINIs (OLD kernel 2.6.21.7)
http://puppyisos.org/isos/Muppy008.4c/

Password:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=28930
It might change in the next days, as I have a lot of traffic again, so there is the risk, that the server will be put offline.

The Office.sfs includes OpenOffice 3 final and acrobat reader.
I also added development.sfs, goodies.sfs, games.sfs, KDE.sfs and Gnome.sfs.
Goodies.sfs includes XaraLx (Vectorgrafics), Songbird and Kraptor (Game).

Update:
The big Liveversions (with the older OpenOffice 3beta) now were uploaded, too.

Concerning the NEW 008.4c4 I have no "ok" yet to post the download-link.
Mark

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PostPosted: Fri 05 Dec 2008, 12:39    Post_subject: a server problems, MU ?
Sub_title: I'll look for some solutions.
 

Hi Muppy folks,

During next weeks I plan to put some folders of mine on a server (some 'shopping' needed ... and a LOT of spare time), so I'll check if I can do something about uploading at least some of Muppy files in order to give a tiny hand.

As MU hints the transportation is an issue more than d' hosting itself. So if people want Muppy (almost PIGGILY) for free - maybe they are ready for a slight more than a passive waiting for next "MU will do"s.

My 'case' here is simple:
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If I need, say, 3 Gigas and a certain transportation for myself and I already pay to a host monthly anyway - how many cents will an extra 1 Giga cost to me ? I assume the 'delta' is not that much, maybe even very cheap for me as a "already a client on host's server".

I even suggest some of Muppy fans who DO CARE - to try finding hosts SW near-by each one of U as a part of a voluntary effort to enlarge this transportation significantly. This can be done seperately from the Puppy community. This can enlarge Muppy accessibility to more users ... DON'T make this crummy face again you Linux snobs! "More users" mean in its big picture - better Muppies on next versions. A simple user's feedback has, in my POV, no less importance than shiney new codes or 'wowowow' new features nobody knows-of except for us.

Try to free MU to the pure luxury of development there he seems to be on his prime.

I think it is a tiny deed that an end-user with no ability to contribute codes to this project (such as me) must at least see if possible.

I'll try myself nearby or farby, but no big promises at this point.

P.S. Merry Christmas 2Y all. Laughing Smile

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PostPosted: Sat 06 Dec 2008, 05:00    Post_subject: Re: a server problems, MU ?
Sub_title: I'll look for some solutions.
 

potchan wrote:
Hi Muppy folks,...<snip>...uploading Muppy files...server space...</snip>


Well, if you've got a spot on a server for the/these file/files, I, for one, would be willing to Torrent said files for the sake of downloading.

I may be alone in this, but I'm of a much stronger belief that Muppy, Puppy and Linux in general should be torrented instead of just leeched from some poor soul's hosting company. If I want to download Linux, I should be uploading to dozens of others at the same time.

Some folks may have UL/DL limits imposed by their Internet providers. I dunno. But this is the solution I'm offering. I'm currently hosting two Muppy "torrents": 008.4c full CD and 008.4c 2 Gb DVD.

I believe the links for both are in this thread.

Would that be of some service?

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PostPosted: Sat 06 Dec 2008, 05:34    Post_subject:  

Well, I'm not familiar with creating torrent files. But I will try to create a muppy008.4c german mini file and take part to spread muppy.
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PostPosted: Sat 06 Dec 2008, 08:06    Post_subject: My sefish view over things (sorry)
Sub_title: Why do I prefer simple download over torrent
 

Hi BobSongs, and thhank you and others for references.

All routs to get Muppy to work on our pieces of crap (PC) R legitimate.

However, my very selfish POV as a low-end user's voice suggest that a Windows-molsted user has enough difficulties and 'dirts' using torrents (unlike Linux users) and if I wish to move him/her to "my" side I think I must provide the old faster easier and cleaner way not via-mules and slow other "dodo"s on the way.

If you ever used Windows you probably know already how long it takes to every software or a browser or a torrent to upload. Everything is an obstacle there to the ordinary user.

Moreover, a user who can wait days for a Titanic movie to complete (as in real world some do) won't spare more than few minutes for an OS try. Nevertheless, it is possible even during a fast download "our" user can regret hundreds of times or adviced not to go-on during period of waiting in front of PC. Also every other thing can also divert user's attention. So, make Muppy downloadable and be a fact n PC as fast as possible. It is not same story as with small cute Puppy. Muppy is a BIG elephant in comparison.

The rest of story is up to the new OS usability and friendliness. Let's not make it harder to users at the beginning. Remember, as I've posted before, most of 'em don't know to handle BIOSes' basics as boot order.

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PostPosted: Sat 06 Dec 2008, 08:51    Post_subject:  

I created a torrent file for the german muppy-mini 008.4c iso

http://linuxtracker.org/download.php?id=d32a1d10ba9316b47ad855136da5f191129cb559&f=Muppy-Mini-008.4c-DE.torrent

I hope it works.
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