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bombayrockers · Joined: 24 Sep 2005 Posts: 421 Location: Mumbai, India

idesk is a icon manager similar to the puppy pinboard but with much more eyecandy stuff such as transparent icons and highlighting.

screenshots -> http://idesk.sourceforge.net/screens.html
Also take a look at the following topic http://www.murga.org/~puppy/viewtopic.php?t=4002&highlight=

download idesk.pup from this page and

imlib2.pup from http://www.murga.org/~puppy/viewtopic.php?t=2369&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=imlib2+pup

edit your /root/.xinitrc and comment out rox and add the following below it

aahhaaa · Posted: Thu 24 Nov 2005, 11:37 Post subject:

Bombay- OK!

can it do this kind of transparent panel thing in Puppy? how?

MU · Posted: Thu 24 Nov 2005, 15:39 Post subject:

The transparency on that picture is no real transparency.
It is the "Eterm" -konsole from enlightenment.
If you move it over another window, you will not see the window shining through, just the Desktop-background.

Fore real transparency (that is called "transluscency"), you will need the x.org -XServer.
If has a extension called XComposite and XRender, that must be activated by adding some lines to /etc/X11/xorg.conf.

Then you can set a window transparent with "transset 0.5" (0.1 -1). Your cursor becomes a cross then, and you can click on the window that shall become transparent.

Details:
http://www.murga.org/~puppy/viewtopic.php?p=14009#14009

Bombayrockers wrote me, that the KDrive-XServer that Puppy uses can be compiled, too, with this extension.
I might try to compile that this weekend, but I don't know in how far it will increase the size.

Details:
http://freedesktop.org/wiki/Software_2fXserver
http://freedesktop.org/wiki/Software_2fXserver_2fInstallGuide

Mark

aahhaaa · Posted: Thu 24 Nov 2005, 18:32 Post subject:

MU -thanks!
the transparency thing could be useful, in graphics especially. I sometimes have to trace things for example, to 'simplify' them - maps in particular are a hassle. Might be nice for animation too- like a light table for tweens.

but I really just want it 'cause it looks so cool Very Happy

jcoder24 · Joined: 06 May 2005 Posts: 601 Location: Barbados

Nice look. Where did you get those icons?

jcagle · Joined: 29 Sep 2005 Posts: 634

I kinda like this. Very Happy

rarsa · Posted: Thu 24 Nov 2005, 23:31 Post subject:

I setup idesk some time ago for my son that wanted to have IceWM in Fedora. Something to boot fast. Actually it's the desktop manager that's used most of the time (He 'owns' the desktop, I use the laptop, the other son uses whatever is available)

I haven't checked recently but the only thing that I did not like is that you cannot drag and drop to the desktop. To create the Icons you actually need to create the desktop files.

Is it still the case?

It is very small though and has never crashed Smile

jcagle · Joined: 29 Sep 2005 Posts: 634

Yeah, that's still the case from what I found...

Any programmers here up to the challenge of making it possible to do that?

bombayrockers · Joined: 24 Sep 2005 Posts: 421 Location: Mumbai, India

The transparent panel is PyPanel and it requires Python. The only working Python for puppy is available from Grafpup packages and is 15 mbs in size. It also requires Python X libs. The code for PyPanel is only 30 kbs

Now 15 mbs just for a panel is TOOO much.

MU · Posted: Sat 26 Nov 2005, 07:20 Post subject:

After trying more than 12 hours to compile the KDrive with the XRender-Extensions I give up for this weekend.

I had to add some changes to the installerscript, to the configure-scripts, and to some makefiles.
This is really "CVS" Rolling Eyes

I finally was able to destroy my pup001, I will try to mount it from a working one and remove X11R6 so it uses the default kdrive.

Will continue trying somewhen the next days.

Mark