Project Ripple [in development]

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dinky · #41 Post by **dinky** » Mon 10 Nov 2008, 21:32

Hi folks, firstly, flipper9, thanks for your interest, and for having a go. I'm working on the next beta release now, with an updated script for the xorgwizard. Currently if you run the xorgwizard you'll need to hack the /etc/X11/xorg.conf script, as it's not configured automatically. I'm working on a fix for this now, with a complete rebuild from unleashed. Almost there. You should have an easier time with that beta, check back here in a day or so.

cb88:
Thanks for your persistence. I did see your post in the compiz-fusion thread, but haven't been able to reply yet. I'm pretty sure you're missing another package, have you installed xorg_xorg_dri-full yet? Basically the puppy 4 series doesn't support dri, and you'll need to install the full pet to get compiz-fusion running. I'm working on a rebuild where I'm hoping to be able to install a few less xorg packages, but I'm not there yet. It's about 20mb, but should fix your problems. Get it from ibiblio, or find the link from tombh's compiz-fusion thread.

Depending on your graphics card, you'll also need to hack your xorg.conf file (mentioned above), and your /etc/profile file. Here's tombh's compiz thread. http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=32242 Make sure you read ALL the instructions, because they are there!!! Good luck. Let us know how you go. Cheers!
~dinky

cb88 · #42 Post by **cb88** » Mon 10 Nov 2008, 22:06

@dinky im used to the other hacks... but forgot about 4.0 not haveing all the dri now that I think about it it may have been the mesa dri .pet I installed and not the full dri one

thnks... to report back soon LOL hopefully with ROX desktop working

dinky · #43 Post by **dinky** » Mon 10 Nov 2008, 22:10

Great, let us know. Does NOP 4.1 use Rox, or Xfce? I've already got the full xorg packages installed in the last beta for Ripple... will be releasing a rebuild from unleashed soon. Cheers.
~dinky

cb88 · #44 Post by **cb88** » Wed 12 Nov 2008, 00:02

well rox is kinda working.... panel check and sys tray check wallpaper check rox-session check (actually im using compiz for the wallpaper atm..)

only deal breaker right now is that the XDG menus don't work i guess that is because puppy still isn't compliant to the standard

so for now im still running xfce4-panel in my startup script
which i have named compiz-xfce contents look something like this:
!#/bin/sh
rox -S &
xfce4-panel &
compiz-manager or that line to start compiz which i havn't memorised

the last command may not be backgrounded or it will kill x as soon as it starts

dinky · #45 Post by **dinky** » Wed 12 Nov 2008, 02:05

I'm a bit confused matey, are you using the development version of Ripple, NOP, or something else? This thread is for the development of Ripple... unless you're working from the iso I posted, or actively on the Ripple project, it's probably a better idea for you to post in either NOP or Compiz-fusion. Please keep posting, but lets save this thread for Ripple development. Cheers!
~dinky

cb88 · #46 Post by **cb88** » Wed 12 Nov 2008, 04:23

I didn't realise there was a ripple ISO already O.o sorry for getting off topic here

heh... and to top that off forgot to save my session last night and now have to reinstall everything and emrald is seg faulting

oh where is the link to the ISO anyway? I'd be more than happy to test... even if chances are my HW is pretty well supported already

dinky · #47 Post by **dinky** » Wed 12 Nov 2008, 11:12

The links a bit hard to find right now, I'll create another thread for releases soon. You can get it here: http://www.curiouslegends.com.au/linux/ripple/iso

Let me know what you think. You'll likely hav to jugglle this around a bit, no scripts automatically configuring anything at this point, that's the next iso, will be out in a few days. Cheers.
~dinky

cb88 · #48 Post by **cb88** » Wed 12 Nov 2008, 17:38

Im gonna be really short on time for the rest of the well so that is just as well... btw why is it so huge?

puppy + xfce + drivers should at worst come out to 85 + 15 + 20 and 10 for the rest or about 130mb

heh... that was on of my peeves about Mathpup... ended up larger than i would have liked

technosaurus · #49 Post by **technosaurus** » Thu 13 Nov 2008, 01:51

241MB does seem a little big and it seems you did a lot of hard work with source ...Just wondered are you:

removing the DEV, NLS and DOC .pets from the final build

6a.In Step-3: choose option 3

stripping the binaries in your packages

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find . | xargs file | grep ELF | cut -f 1 -d : | xargs strip --strip-unneeded

delete unneeded files (documentation, unused sounds, images, translations from /usr/share/locale)

uncompress all archives (such as man pages)... Squash/AUFS works better

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find ./usr/man/ -type l -name "*.gz" | xargs -r gunzip -f
find ./usr/man/ ! -type l -name "*.gz" | xargs -r gunzip

Of course none of this is absolutely necessary just good practice

dinky · #50 Post by **dinky** » Thu 13 Nov 2008, 02:18

Thanks for that, but it's not the final size. Lol. I'm glad Ripple is developing this much interest, but the iso I posted was just a test iso really, nothing more. It's just a remaster of puppy 4.1, (including all my development files) and was never intended to be a release. The beta release I'm working on is 145Mb, and I may consider making a smaller one that's sub-100... still working out what's needed. For now I'm including Firefox 3 and a patched version of mplayer for compiz-fusion with the full set of codecs. This adds about 20Mb to the final iso, but in my opinion is worth it. Other possibilities are including netsurf (500kb?) instead of Firefox by default, and Mplayer with only the basic codec set... though as far as I'm concerned there's not much point to this. Anyway, in the next couple days I'll post the beta release version.. still sorting out a few bugs. Thanks for the notes on size, I might have a go with some of the above scripts... cheers.
~dinky

dinky · #51 Post by **dinky** » Thu 13 Nov 2008, 13:24

G'day everyone, thanks for your patience, and for all the lovely people showing their support by following this thread. Ripple .05 is now out... the next beta version. Ripple now supports Intel cards that can run Compiz Fusion automatically, which means eeepc's are automatically configured. Works beautifully on my eeepc 701, would love some testers to try it on other models. Everything SHOULD be working out of the box,, please post here and let me know if it's not.

Get Rippled Here!
http://www.curiouslegends.com.au/linux/ripple/iso

Ripple is now a rebuild from unleashed on Puppy 4.1.1. The iso is 152mb. This included Firefox 3, compiz-fusion, cairo-dock, and mplayer with all the codecs. Have a look here to find more packages specific to Ripple:
http://www.curiouslegends.com.au/linux/ripple/packages
I'll post 'em as I've got 'em. Currently I've made pets for Kompozer and Gimp. Open Office 3 will be installable as a program folder in /mnt/home shortly. Ripple pets are made to automatically put the package on the dockbar, otherwise they are no different than Puppy 4.1.1 pets.

I've hacked init so that Ripple works automatically in pupmode 13 on the eeepc internal flash drive. Currently Petget is stuffed, due to the live.packages text file needing to be rebuilt. I'll do this when I have time, and post a fix here in the next few days.

Have at it folks! Lets get some good feedback happening! I'm particularly interested in bugs and other features you'd like to see, as I'll be updating this build over the next couple weeks. Cheers!

~dinky

puppyluvr · #52 Post by **puppyluvr** » Thu 13 Nov 2008, 14:00

Dinky,
I get a 404 error...

HairyWill · #53 Post by **HairyWill** » Thu 13 Nov 2008, 14:42

I get a 403!

dinky · #54 Post by **dinky** » Thu 13 Nov 2008, 15:40

Lol! You folks are fast... try now... the iso and files were still uploading. If you have any troubles with the ripple_05 iso try the test version, ripple_beta05. The later one includes a patched init to recognise the internal drive of the eeepc as a flash drive. I haven't tested the iso yet, but the patched init file is fine. I used Puppy's isomaster to replace the old init. Let me know how you go!

~dinky

dinky · #55 Post by **dinky** » Thu 13 Nov 2008, 15:42

Lol! You folks are fast... try now... the iso and files were still uploading. If you have any troubles with the ripple_05 iso try the test version, ripple_beta05. The later one includes a patched init to recognise the internal drive of the eeepc as a flash drive. I haven't tested the iso yet, but the patched init file is fine. I used Puppy's isomaster to replace the old init. Let me know how you go!

~dinky

Caneri · #56 Post by **Caneri** » Thu 13 Nov 2008, 16:23

Hi Dinky,

I got the iso...here is the md5sum from the download.

465c046039cd083de09d959f375ee176 ripple_beta05.iso

First burn failed but I'm onto another burn with a new cd

EDIT: burned and booted ok with a new disk..oops it was my fault with a bad cd-rw. I have ATI Radeon Mobility X1600 and so far no joy. Tom and I had a big problem with this video card as well with wNOP. I'll test this on another lappy tonight..it has nVidea. Also I'll test it on a Classmate in a bit...
Best,
Eric

puppyluvr · #57 Post by **puppyluvr** » Thu 13 Nov 2008, 17:23

Dinky,
The beta 5 iso is D/L now, but the other still says, "You do not have permission to access bla bla bla
404 error.........
Will test out B5 after work, I cant wait to hack into it....
Great idea...

HairyWill · #58 Post by **HairyWill** » Thu 13 Nov 2008, 17:43

a bit slow from here, I'll try later

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# wget http://www.curiouslegends.com.au/linux/ripple/iso/test_iso/ripple_beta05.iso
--17:41:44--  http://www.curiouslegends.com.au/linux/ripple/iso/test_iso/ripple_beta05.iso
           => `ripple_beta05.iso'
Resolving www.curiouslegends.com.au... 209.62.36.4
Connecting to www.curiouslegends.com.au|209.62.36.4|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 159,082,496 (152M) [application/octet-stream]

 0% [                                     ] 441,654       14.07K/s  ETA 4:24:2

Caneri · #59 Post by **Caneri** » Thu 13 Nov 2008, 17:59

Hi Dinky,

I'll put it here http://www.puppylinux.ca/tpp/Ripple/

Wait for the md5.txt file before downloading.

Sorry but the Florida servers are still not ready. We are in the middle of the new setup. When Florida is ready we can use it as a high speed server....soon I hope.

Best,
Eric

LaneLester · #60 Post by **LaneLester** » Thu 13 Nov 2008, 20:13

Caneri wrote:I'll put it here http://www.puppylinux.ca/tpp/Ripple/

Wait for the md5.txt file before downloading.

I couldn't wait, Eric. And I ran into some kind of error with the main file not wanting to copy from the CD to the flash drive.

I tried unpacking the ISO without burning it, but I got some kind of error from File Roller. Maybe it was the same problem.

Lane

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