Puppy 4.2 - Desktop and Artwork

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#101 Post by 2byte »

In 4.1 and 4.1.1, freememapplet no longer appears in the taskbar if ezpup or icewm is installed. It isn't listed in the process manager either. If run from the terminal it shows up as a teeny application on the desktop so I suspect that it was compiled without eggtrayicon. Although this isn't an issue with jwm it would be nice if this was fixed in 4.2 since icewm is one of the most popular additions to Puppy.

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#102 Post by zigbert »

I think ttuuxxx's refresh-menu-idea is good, but then the petget message must be changed from telling to restart jwm. The main reason why I think so, is because my hacked fixmenu script that reformating the menu (see picture in main post) is much slower than the original.

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The Stardust desktop is getting closer to something for public. As I see it there are several ways of releasing it.
- Upload piece by piece on the forum.
- Make a Ezpup-like package that installs on top.
- Release it with a 4.2 alpha. You get all scripts, packages, artwork and info.

There are negatives and positives about all of them, so I thought you could make the best decision. I'm not at all finished, but the base seems rather settled. The status:
- Icons (50%)
- Wallpaper (80%)
- Menu (100%) ???
- Widgets (80% version 0.1) this will of course be a never ending story
- Gtk-theme (100%, else we want another one)
- Jwm-theme (50% should it be blue or orange?)
- Add icon/program to desktop (70%)
- Utility bar (20%)


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#103 Post by WhoDo »

zigbert wrote:The Stardust desktop is getting closer to something for public. As I see it there are several ways of releasing it.
- Upload piece by piece on the forum.
- Make a Ezpup-like package that installs on top.
- Release it with a 4.2 alpha. You get all scripts, packages, artwork and info.

There are negatives and positives about all of them, so I thought you could make the best decision.
I'm determined to include your work in 4.2alpha and beyond, Sigmund. I'd like 4.2 to be as easy to use as possible and professionally integrated in look-and-feel terms as well.

There is plenty of time to refine and polish, if we want it. I'm not planning a particularly hectic schedule for 4.2 - the push for a quick release cycle was the source of repeated bug problems when developing 2.15CE - every change presents a new set of issues to be sorted out. We should take our time with 4.2 and polish, polish, polish.

Let's settle on the brushed silver/orange-black theme for the desktop and menus. An orange version of Stardust would be good as a Gtk theme, too. Ubuntu is ample evidence that many users find orange a reasonable alternative to blue and green, where red is probably too harsh for most.

I have attached a Gtk-2.0 theme called myubuntu, which may be a good starting point for modifications. Let me know what you think.

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#104 Post by ttuuxxx »

WhoDo wrote:
zigbert wrote:
I have attached a Gtk-2.0 theme called myubuntu, which may be a good starting point for modifications. Let me know what you think.
I tried it and it didn't work on 4.1, CHtheme just disappears, But thats ok, when I looked at the package it had lots of goodies, So if you want when I get home from work tonight in about 12hrs, I'll rip it apart and tryout somethings :)
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#105 Post by zigbert »

Please look at these 2 wallpapers. They are both stretched from the master-image. One to ratio 4:3 (640x480), and the other to widescreen, - ratio 16:10 (640x400). The master-image has a resolution of 1750x1200, which is something in between (the same ratio as 640x440).

The question is: Can we use this ONE wallpaper for all kind of screens?

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#106 Post by nic2109 »

Looks good to me on an eyeball-test - but if you could attach the actual image for downloading then we could tell you for sure.

I'd like to see something like 'Puppy 4.2' somewhere below the "face" (in a discrete intensity) so we show the world just what we are running. When you have something this good you really want to brag about it. This could be present in the iso file, but not in the image if made available separately. Just a thought.

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#107 Post by smokey01 »

Zigbert, How difficult would it be to make the connect process part of the initial startup configuration like keyboard and graphics?
It would probably be better to make it fully automatic but then that limits your choice if you have eth, modem or WLAN.

The desktop icon is not biggie as it's easy to delete. Simplicity is what Puppy needs. The less a new user has to do to get the OS working the more popular puppy will become.

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#108 Post by DaveS »

smokey01 wrote: The desktop icon is not biggie as it's easy to delete. Simplicity is what Puppy needs. The less a new user has to do to get the OS working the more popular puppy will become.
As a new user, it might be interesting for me to say that I prefer having a readily accessible route to setting stuff up, like the 'connect' icon, rather than having it all fully automated. It kinda seems easier to figure it out if it does not work straight off that way. The problem with automation is, it has to be bullet-proof.

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#109 Post by disciple »

The problem with automation is, it has to be bullet-proof.
That's right - Puppy now has several automated things that need work because they aren't bullet-proof - e.g. the automatic hardware detection can be very bad if you have on-board sound but use a separate sound card - every time he boots he sets up the first sound card he finds, and you have to run the alsa-wizard to fix it. Until you know to blacklist the module.
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#110 Post by Pizzasgood »

I'd like to see something like 'Puppy 4.2' somewhere below the "face" (in a discrete intensity) so we show the world just what we are running. When you have something this good you really want to brag about it. This could be present in the iso file, but not in the image if made available separately. Just a thought.
I'm all for having the version number visible, but not on the wallpaper. Putting it on the wallpaper messes up people who want to use it for other versions, and requires modifying it for every new version. Using a graphics editor that has layers and posting the "raw" formatted file for that editor so that anybody can update it for their needs would help, but I still wouldn't call that ideal.

I think a better solution is to include it in the Conky display, along with kernel version. That way it can be totally automatic - Conky can just read it from /etc/puppyversion and automatically insert the decimal point.
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#111 Post by WhoDo »

ttuuxxx wrote:I tried it and it didn't work on 4.1, CHtheme just disappears, But thats ok, when I looked at the package it had lots of goodies, So if you want when I get home from work tonight in about 12hrs, I'll rip it apart and tryout somethings
Go for it, ttuuxxx. I haven't tried it on any 4.xx series yet. There were several Gtk-2.0 themes that worked fine in 3.01 but won't work in 4.x for some reason, and that could easily be one of them. If you find out why, let me know, because the others are pretty nice too and it would be good to include them in EZpup-4.1 which will be coming out soon.
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#112 Post by disciple »

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The desktop icon is not biggie as it's easy to delete. 
The only problem is that these days the icons come back when you add an .sfs or something.
"Too much automation"
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#113 Post by zigbert »

Thanks to pizzagood, Pwidgets now got a Puppylinux widget.

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#114 Post by iscraigh »

I vote for having connection automatically, or at least the wizard start up on first boot.


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#115 Post by ttuuxxx »

I made 5 Browser Search files, They work on seamonkey and firefox :)
Murga Forum
Puppylinux.ca
Sourceforge
Freshmeat.net
Gnome files
Below is a pet for seamonkey, you have to enable it in the prefrences :)
then to use it, just type a word in the url bar like VLC
then click search
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Just the bottom 5 :)
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#116 Post by nic2109 »

Pizzasgood wrote:I think a better solution is to include it in the Conky display, along with kernel version. That way it can be totally automatic - Conky can just read it from /etc/puppyversion and automatically insert the decimal point.
That's a much better idea so I'm glad zigbert has already adopted it!
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#117 Post by zigbert »

What about something like this ????

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#118 Post by WhoDo »

zigbert wrote:What about something like this ????

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That's a big YEP from me! 8)
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#119 Post by DaveS »

Gorgeous. Cool orange corners :-)
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#120 Post by ttuuxxx »

I went to Luna Park yesterday which is across from the Sydney Opera House and snapped a few pictures of the Opera house. Here's one.
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