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KOffice 1.6.3 for 4.00 and 4.06 ***& 3.01*** New Version
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playdayz


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PostPosted: Sun 24 Aug 2008, 15:25    Post subject: New, Greatly Improved SFS of K-Office 1.6.3 for 4.00/4.06
Subject description: Please see first message for download
 

I have edited the first message in this thread to reflect the new version. With a lot of help from my friends aragon, raffy, ttuuxxx, and Lobster this version is much, much better and in my opinion definitely usable.

All of the problems people have helped with in this thread have been addressed: the fonts are right and look good, the dictionary is present and the spell checker works, the menus are working, and the remaining console messages are non-critical (afaik).

I have been emailing with some K-Office developers who have been very gracious with their time and I have learned from them some things that might be useful to Puppy (I will discuss these in a blog entry soon). One thing they said was that a project such as this would have to be done manually and would be "almost completely unmaintainable." Right on both counts, I think Wink but it seems to be working now and it looks like it should be able to work with 4.1. And after that, K-Office 2!
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ttuuxxx


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PostPosted: Sun 24 Aug 2008, 19:22    Post subject:  

Well that sounds excellent Smile Looking forward to newer versions.
Actually I might try to add KOffice to my next living water release, I already have a stable KDE base for Bibletime, but its kind of large, 43mb.
ttuuxxx

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PostPosted: Mon 25 Aug 2008, 01:02    Post subject:  

Bravo! Smile

The test is usability.
Abiword works fine for up to about 20 pages.
Up till now I have used OpenOffice for anything larger.
Next time I will use KOffice.

I just did a logo in inkscapelite (great program inside Puppy)

next time I will use the KOffice structured drawing program
. . . which looks dead easy to use
- in combination with the drawing package perhaps

The thing I liked about kOffice was I did not have to learn it.
Intuitive and much more obvious than OpenOffice

Feedback and testing (particularly in Puppy 4.1 Beta available this week)
will I hope encourage your efforts.
http://tmxxine.com/wik/wikka.php?wakka=PuppyDingo41
I for one will be making this a feature of any future Linux tmxxine

What is great, is how you are contacting the developers
and benefiting Linux in general and Puppy in particular
I look forward to your blog

Just to remind people that this thread was posted and very little feedback was offered.

Feedback and testing and reporting is what makes a developer
know his efforts are useful.
If you don't bother why should they?

woof woof
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ttuuxxx


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PostPosted: Mon 25 Aug 2008, 01:42    Post subject:  

Lobster wrote:
Bravo! Smile
Very Happy

I agree, Sometimes I spend countless hours building, troubleshooting things and only get a few responses, Most often people just like to look, read, download. Like some of my Fire Hydrant forum post, some of them have over 11,000 views and only 30 or so responses.
Plus sometimes I could use some help with some issues but most of the time I have to work them out myself which takes for ever, Funny some people who are qualified could probably name the answer in 2 seconds, just off the top of their heads, But they choose not too and I'm stuck for days trying to work out one issue, Thats kind of where we fail as a community. But then just a handful would go the extra mile and actually help. Oh well I learn more doing it myself Smile
Anyways I agree with you lobster, more for feedback is needed!!
keep up the great work Wink
ttuuxxx

Ps Lobster your "N" in DINGO is backwards ????
other than that it looks great Smile

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PostPosted: Mon 25 Aug 2008, 08:06    Post subject:  

this letter looks like russian И( pronounced [i]
looks great

i really like the things that you guys are making here on murga-linux!

i'm downloding this koffice pack to try and the new icewm from tuuxxx is very nice!

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PostPosted: Mon 25 Aug 2008, 08:23    Post subject:  

Lobster: Hey I support devs!! & Lobster

BIG UP ALL DEVS - YAY Very Happy

& LOBSTER - YAY Wink

ttuuxxx - I don't code, but I am always available for research, if needed

pm me

Aitch Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon 25 Aug 2008, 10:05    Post subject: blog  

Thanks a lot ! If you want, you can blog at puppylinux.org/.
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PostPosted: Mon 25 Aug 2008, 10:50    Post subject: Disappointment
Subject description: K-Office doesn't work for me
 

I tried the K-Office .sfs this morning, hoping I could substitute it for the ponderous OO. It was a big disappointment. It can't seem to handle .ppt presentations or .ods spreadsheets.
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PostPosted: Mon 25 Aug 2008, 11:17    Post subject: Re: Disappointment
Subject description: K-Office doesn't work for me
 

davec51 wrote:
I tried the K-Office .sfs this morning, hoping I could substitute it for the ponderous OO. It was a big disappointment. It can't seem to handle .ppt presentations or .ods spreadsheets.


I'm not running Koffice at the moment but KPresenter needs a .ppt filter to open that format. probably the same with .ods
Lets not forget that this is just a start./alpha or early beta, A very good one Smile If I get a bit of time I'll try to work it out, Maybe somebody else could search and make a addon package to extend Koffice format, Like we do with abiword. etc
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PostPosted: Mon 25 Aug 2008, 12:24    Post subject: PPT & ODS  

@davec51, thanks dave, i am sorry for the disappointment.

PPT. Here is the situation as described in the KOffice online documentation:

Quote:
Powerpoint Files. KPresenter does attempt to import Microsoft® Powerpoint files but it does not always work perfectly. It depends on the Powerpoint file version and what is in the file. You can always import pictures for the background image and re-type any text. It's not the ideal solution, re-doing the entire presentation. However, just bear in mind that Powerpoint does not even attempt to read KPresenter files.


ODS. K-Office is supposed to open and save OpenDocument Spreadsheet files. I created a very simple one with OpenOffice 2.4 and then imported it into KSpread. It seems to me that there is nothing we can do here either except file a bug report if KSpread does not open a more complex ods sheet. However, the developers are not even sure if there will ever be another version after 1.6.3--all of their time is going into KOffice2.

The online documentation for KOffice is located at

http://www.koffice.org
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PostPosted: Mon 25 Aug 2008, 18:29    Post subject:  

There seems to be a problem with loading/mounting the sfs.
Do you have and md5 hash for the download?

I want to experiment with other puppy versions and friend couldn't load it in dingo either.
What version of squashfs is used?

regards

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PostPosted: Mon 25 Aug 2008, 22:01    Post subject: md5 & mounting sfs
Subject description: @mikeb
 

ae3fb1478cf7c7f34ebc3fa566e1fde9 K-Office_400.sfs

http://www.diddywahdiddy.net/Puppy400/k-office_400.md5.txt

Those are the md5 sum. I just downloaded and compared and its the same up and down for me.

Is this your procedure to mount?

1. Download the K-Office_400.sfs to /mnt/home (or move it there)
2. If using 4.06, rename K-Office_400.sfs to K-Office_406.sfs
3. Go to Menu: System: Bootmanager configure bootup
4. Click on Choose which extra SFS files to load at bootup
5. Select K-Office_400 (or 406) and Add it to the right side
6. Make sure to untick Ignore above user selection....and then click OK
7. Reboot Puppy
8. Check Menu under Document (also check /usr/share/applications/kde in case something might go wrong with the menu)

This is about all I know about mounting an sfs file. It will mount of course by just clicking it, but it will not run that way. This version will not run with 3.01, but should run with 4.00 and 4.06. I am sure there are things that would prevent its running correctly; I tested with default 4.00 and 4.06 so maybe create a new default installation???

I used sunburnt's progam here to make the sfs
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?search_id=1059384584&t=30760

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PostPosted: Mon 25 Aug 2008, 22:28    Post subject:  

Ok thanks for the quick reply and info.

I checked and the md5 says my download is good so it must be a squashfs issue as it will not click and mount. Diefferent squashfs versions are not backward compatible.
Do you know which kernel you are using....2.1.21 or 2.6.25?

regards

mike


ps thanks for working on this project.
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PostPosted: Mon 25 Aug 2008, 23:57    Post subject: kernel  

in 4.06 it is 2.6.25.15

I made the sfs in 4.00 which is 2.6.21.7

the same sfs works in both

you are using 4.00 or 4.06?
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PostPosted: Tue 26 Aug 2008, 04:43    Post subject:  

playdayz wrote:
6. Make sure to untick Ignore above user selection....and then click OK
I have a problem with this point.
If the box is unticked, it doesn't load any sfs for me with _400, _406 in the name. I have to delete the _4xx part or rename it to _v4xx

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