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VLC 8.6h mediaplayer Lite 7.8MB pet

#1 Post by ttuuxxx »

Updated, Combined all 4 packages now its All-in-one.

Ok well this is my first official shot at compiling this Media player on puppy 4.0,
I built it for my next release of Living Water, The packages were compiled as i386 so no hardware acceleration. But compiled at that speed It doesn't need it.
This version plays online video streams :)
Dvd's and xvid, divx, Quicktime

Also full screen works fine and also you can change the aspect ratio while the movie is playing without it crashing :)

Also the sound works.

Just keep in mind this is a basic version that does what most people need and works great on older pc's.

I haven't tested all that much, but what I've seen it works well.
Also no red lines :)
enjoy ttuuxxx :wink:

Please could people using it report some feedback on quality, media type, and cpu and memory used. I do need to know some specs so I can decide if this will be a default media player in some of my releases. Thanks for your input.

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#2 Post by Leon »

Excellent!

Works fine in Dingo 4.1 Alpha 4.

Thank you ttuuxxx.

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Leon wrote:Excellent!

Works fine in Dingo 4.1 Alpha 4.

Thank you ttuuxxx.
Thanks leon :)
What kind of cpu, memory are you using it on and what kind of media did play, dvd, divx etc.
I need a bit of technical feedback so I can use it in one of releases and see if it would make a good replacement for gxine
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#4 Post by clickelliott »

I downloaded the 3 files. Tried to install the two libraries first, the installer gave me expansion errors on both.

The VLC pet installed fine, aside from noting the missing dependencies.

The program actually starts up without them, although it's non-functional due to missing dialog widgets.

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#5 Post by ttuuxxx »

clickelliott wrote:I downloaded the 3 files. Tried to install the two libraries first, the installer gave me expansion errors on both.

The VLC pet installed fine, aside from noting the missing dependencies.

The program actually starts up without them, although it's non-functional due to missing dialog widgets.
are you using puppy 4.0+ ?
Plus you said you had errors downloading the 2 other files. Try to get them from the online folder
http://www.puppylinux.ca/tpp/ttuuxxx/pr ... edia/ hmmm


I just tried it with the above links on a fresh live 4.0 cd and it worked perfect. Please try to get the other 2 files again.
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#6 Post by clickelliott »

They installed well from those sources. I started VLC from the terminal and it works well so far with DVD, avi, and even flv. Woohoo!

My only beef would be that, when you click open, disc, and type in device name (for file path to DVD) it doesn't remember it after closing, as it does on other distros.
VLC is still way better than gxine, in my opinion, since gxine wouldn't play DVDs for me and blinks periodically during full-screen.

For the record, I'm using 4.0 on a Celeron 2.something Ghz with 640mb 266ram, 256mb nvidia.

Edit: I tried some audio, plays mp3 good, has a problem with flac. Plays them, kind of, but choppy.
And XMMS, which was working fine earlier, now refuses to start due to missing libgtk-1.2.so.0; whether related to the VLC install or not, I don't know.
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#7 Post by Newcrest »

I might give this a try as it is reasonably sized now but is there any advantage over Mplayer/Smplayer?

I have not found a deficiency using that combo (on a P3M 1GHz with 256k ram).

On Windows I was never impressed with VLC, it always seemed to demand too many resources.

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clickelliott wrote:They installed well from those sources. I started VLC from the terminal and it works well so far with DVD, avi, and even flv. Woohoo!

My only beef would be that, when you click open, disc, and type in device name (for file path to DVD) it doesn't remember it after closing, as it does on other distros.
VLC is still way better than gxine, in my opinion, since gxine wouldn't play DVDs for me and blinks periodically during full-screen.

For the record, I'm using 4.0 on a Celeron 2.something Ghz with 640mb 266ram, 256mb nvidia.
-Excellent thats what I like to hear, a great report on an older pc, The settings issue I'll look into, maybe its just a file. Hopefully it would be that easy. Also drag and drop works with it.

Hint
I usually mount the dvd drive then drag the video_ts folder onto VLC, you don't even have to open the folder.
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#9 Post by ttuuxxx »

Newcrest wrote:I might give this a try as it is reasonably sized now but is there any advantage over Mplayer/Smplayer?

I have not found a deficiency using that combo (on a P3M 1GHz with 256k ram).

On Windows I was never impressed with VLC, it always seemed to demand too many resources.
Well The dvd image quality is better, The DvD search is faster, It plays better image quality and faster live video streams from websites. Plus its smaller. Plus it takes less resources.
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clickelliott wrote:They installed well from those sources. I started VLC from the terminal and it works well so far with DVD, avi, and even flv. Woohoo!

My only beef would be that, when you click open, disc, and type in device name (for file path to DVD) it doesn't remember it after closing, as it does on other distros.
VLC is still way better than gxine, in my opinion, since gxine wouldn't play DVDs for me and blinks periodically during full-screen.

For the record, I'm using 4.0 on a Celeron 2.something Ghz with 640mb 266ram, 256mb nvidia.

Edit: I tried some audio, plays mp3 good, has a problem with flac. Plays them, kind of, but choppy.
And XMMS, which was working fine earlier, now refuses to start due to missing libgtk-1.2.so.0; whether related to the VLC install or not, I don't know.
It shouldn't have any effect with xmms, I think thats unrelated, maybe just reinstall xmms.
as for Flac I tested it and yes its a bit choppy, I'll see what I can do.
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#11 Post by charnisingh »

Hi ttuuxxx,

you have really done it.

Thanks.

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#12 Post by JB4x4 »

ttuuxxx,

Tried out VLC today, works good on some AVI files I had laying around. I tried out some MP4's also, but had NO sound. The picture was there though.

Any thoughts,
JB

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JB4x4 wrote:ttuuxxx,

Tried out VLC today, works good on some AVI files I had laying around. I tried out some MP4's also, but had NO sound. The picture was there though.

Any thoughts,
JB
Hi JB4x4

Could you open VLC and then
click view/ messages
then start your video
it should give you a display of what is happening.
also I'm building a addon I would like you to try out and see if it works.
Thanks for helping out
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#14 Post by ttuuxxx »

JB4x4
can you try this little addon package, ?
I have another little bit bigger one I'll build in a bit.
Install the pet then exit VLC and open vlc and try out your video.
Thanks
ttuuxxx

updated
I tried some mp4 without this package and had no sound, then installed it and had sound. So it fixed the problem for me :)
Hope it works for you
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#15 Post by JB4x4 »

ttuuxxx,

I tried out a couple of MP4's and....... :) They worked. Thanks alot!! Just curious, it looks like you had to add some codecs and libs. Would you consider repackaging the pet with these?

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JB4x4 wrote:ttuuxxx,

I tried out a couple of MP4's and....... :) They worked. Thanks alot!! Just curious, it looks like you had to add some codecs and libs. Would you consider repackaging the pet with these?

JB
Hey JB

But of course I'll be more than happy to repackage it, :)
I was just waiting for your confirmation that it works,
The only outstanding issue to date is flac audio. well thats no big deal anyways, Users can use small audio players for that, like beep media player (bmp) player.
Actually VLC does have an issue with flac audio, I tried to fix it.
Thanks for testing it. Thats what I can use more of, is testers.
Thanks :wink:
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#17 Post by tempestuous »

ttuuxxx wrote:The packages were compiled as i386 so no hardware acceleration. But compiled at that speed It doesn't need it.
The term "hardware acceleration" is often misunderstood. Hardware acceleration, as it applies to media playback, is most importantly graphics hardware acceleration. With the appropriate "XVideo" output method a media player application should be able to take advantage of the graphics device's processing to handle colour space conversion and scaling, thus relieving the CPU of these tasks. The benefits in terms of CPU usage are slight, only 5-10% reduction, but image quality is far better and fullscreen works better.

With "XvMC" output method, the hardware acceleration concept is take one step further by actually decoding the MPEG2 codec ... but that's another story.

I'm pleased to report that this VLC version does include "XVideo" output, refer attached image, so graphics hardware acceleration is certainly available, and automatically in use when possible.
clickelliott wrote:I'm using 4.0 on a Celeron 2.something Ghz with 640mb 266ram, 256mb nvidia.
ttuuxxx wrote:a great report on an older pc
"older"? No wonder so few people understand hardware acceleration: they don't have hardware old enough to see the difference!

Let's get "older" into perspective: the official minimum specification for DVD playback is Pentium2 with 16MB AGP graphics card which supports Xvideo overlay.

I have a Pentium2-350 with (more recent) 256MB nVIDIA graphics card which is close to this specification, and ideal to test media player applications.

When I boot the Puppy4 CD and install this version of VLC my CPU usage while playing a DVD is 68%.
Under the MPlayer gui (GMPlayer) and using "xv" output my CPU usage is 81%.
When I launch MPlayer from the commandline my CPU usage is 70%.
Gxine is 77%.
ttuuxxx wrote:Plus it (VLC) takes less resources.
According to the above results, only by a small margin. On anything from Pentium3 up this margin will be unnoticeable.
ttuuxxx wrote:Well The dvd image quality is better <snip> It plays better image quality
Not on my system with nVIDIA and MPlayer using xv output. As good? Maybe, but no better.
Picture quality differences will more likely be due to video output configuration: xv versus x11.
ttuuxxx wrote:Plus its smaller.
This VLC package is 9.5MB total, thanks largely to wxWidgets.
My MPlayer-1.0rc2 package (with inbuilt ffmpeg) is 5.0MB.
The 2 MPlayer packages which bind to Puppy4's external ffmpeg; the official dotpet and the one by plinej, are both about 2MB.
ttuuxxx wrote:The DvD search is faster
Possibly.
Newcrest wrote:is there any advantage over Mplayer/Smplayer?
VLC's claim to fame is good DVD menu support.
VLC seems to engender loyalty amongst its longterm users. That's fine. I just wanted to get some facts straight.
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#18 Post by ttuuxxx »

well tempestuous
it looks Like vlc is wins 1st place in all area's except size, well I think compared to the last release which was a 18MB pup, this version is better, due to it is 1/2 the size, it has about 2-3 extra codeC's and lets not forget the streaming video, Thats where VLC wins hands down.
Have you ever played asx videos with mplayer/gxine vs VLC ? Some work and some don't, Vlc Is the old reliable/dependable which they all work.
If the others fail Vlc usually can do it.
Oh also 1/2 of this package is the wx Library, When comparing sizes, I would say VLC is 4.8 MB because you use this handy library for other things Like Multiget.
The multi-thread downloader with pause and resume. With that I can download from capped server around 4X the default download speeds.
from 30 mins to 6 :)
And that depends on the wx libs. I'll post muggins pet at the bottom of the screen, for an extra 300KB you have a real nice program.
Also when you were comparing cpu usage and you mentioned command line did you mean you were comparing mplay+gxine without UI vs Vlc with UI, because if so you run VLC via command line also. What was vlc cpu usage via command line, you left that one out?
Also I did try to make this version for older pc to use less system resources and it looks like 10% is a great number.
Have you measured what the original older VLC CPU usage was?
http://www.dotpups.de/dotpups/Multimedia/VLC-0.8.6.pup
Just wondering, Thanks for input. I did take about 30 tries to compile this Media player.
You probably could do better :)
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#19 Post by tempestuous »

ttuuxxx wrote:What was vlc cpu usage via command line
I originally did try this, but VLC failed to access /dev/dvd as a raw device.
So I just tried again by mounting the DVD and accessing the directory, like this -

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vlc /mnt/sr0/video_ts/
CPU usage is between 65-75%, almost identical to VLC with gui. It appears that the wxWidgets interface adds very little overhead.
ttuuxxx wrote:Have you ever played asx videos with mplayer/gxine vs VLC
Many times, but not recently.
I have not mentioned this on the forum before, but I work in television, streaming video, and new media. MPlayer will play any video stream which is not blocked by ActiveX code or java.
If VLC plays a video stream that MPlayer doesn't, then either VLC has some magical way of cutting through the ActiveX code which is designed to exclude non-WindowsMediaPlayer users ... which is unlikely, or it's due to a web browser plugin issue. Maybe the VLC browser plugin is superior?
To know for sure, quote me the streams that you claim MPlayer can't play.
ttuuxxx wrote:it has about 2-3 extra codecs
Until you can quote these codecs precisely, I will not believe that.
Over the years I've heard all manner of hocus-pocus about codecs. VLC, MPlayer, and Xine all use ffmpeg as their core decoding library. It stands to reason that their codec support would be equal, and this is generally true, except for additional library support which may be enabled.
By default, MPlayer utilises several different codec libraries and will even change between its libraries dynamically.
Thanks to the libmpeg2 library, MPlayer is famous for being able to handle corrupt MPEG1 and MPEG2 video files.
I don't think anything can touch MPlayer codec-wise.
As another example, try playing a video file with AMR audio codec in VLC. This codec is used in video files created by most (non-Apple) mobile phones.

After all this, am I an MPlayer zealot? No. With the current state of play I believe that a well configured version of XineUI (not Gxine) is the premier media player application.

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tempestuous wrote: To know for sure, quote me the streams that you claim MPlayer can't play.
That was a few months back, When I come across it again I'll post the link for sure, I have nothing against Mplayer, I think its also excellent and you've done wonders with it.
ttuuxxx wrote:it has about 2-3 extra codecs
Until you can quote these codecs precisely, I will not believe that.
Okay This one maybe I wasn't clear enough,sorry :? , I was talking about this version of VLC compared to the original 18MB version, Nothing to do with Mplayer

After all this, am I an MPlayer zealot? No. With the current state of play I believe that a well configured version of XineUI (not Gxine) is the premier media player application
Most of my Puppy Variant releases I've included Xine-GUI because the Xine-Gui works fullscreen, it might not be as fancy as xine, but it functions better. I would of used VLC at the time but it was too big, As for the best all around media player for puppy, Well VLC @ 10MB that includeds VLC and Multiget, I would take that over any other media player, and less resources, faster dvd searches, drag and drop movies, or dvd folders etc, Well Thats My personal Opinion

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http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/A-codecs/ <-- Codec Test Files
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