Puppy Linux Discussion Forum

Aitch · Joined: 04 Apr 2007 Posts: 6825 Location: Chatham, Kent, UK

Hey Wolfie;

lovely bit of bling, now all you need to do, is to edit it to 640x480,

IMHO, I think, to stop it screwing my forum page up

Perhaps then, post it on a blog on the Community Website, Here

We need some more bling Wink

Aitch

wolfwatcher51 · Joined: 09 Mar 2008 Posts: 148

Hello everybody,

Long story short, I had to give up on puppy301 on my laptop. Even with all of Mark's help, it just refused to run xorg. It did not want to do wireless out of the box either. No xorg and incorrect resolution in xvesa was the deal killer for me.

So, I did a frugal install of puppy 4 and gave xorg a whirl, amazingly, it worked!

Now I am back here asking what it is about gdesklets that makes it puppy3 only? I really liked my desktop with gdesklets on my puppy301.

Remembering my noobness, is there a way to use gdesklets in puppy4?

Is there a gdesklets for puppy 4 coming?

Any help/information would be greatly appreciated, Chris.

MU · Posted: Fri 18 Jul 2008, 08:36 Post subject:

I just found out, that the Gnome-libraries are NOT required for Gdesklets!

I made a pet of the gdesklets from gnomeslack.org.
It complained about gnome-vfs, and exited.
But the problem was not gnomevfs, but the "log" function of Python, that is not available.
So it exited, because it could not handle an error-message.
I don't know, what module is needed to correct that, my python knowledge is rather poor.
So I just commented it in /usr/lib/gdesklets/utils/vfs.py (line 29).
Now gdesklets run without gnome-libs!

Just if you want to run a gnome-specific desklet, like the panel mentioned earlieron, you would need them.

I made a PET of my gdesklets, with some pre-installed as shown on the attached screenshot.
So you need ONLY the python-cssm in addition, nothing else Very Happy

http://dotpups.de/puppy3/dotpups/Desktop-Tools/gdesklets-0.36-i586-2gsb-MU.pet
mirror:
http://puppyfiles.ca/dotpupsde/puppy3/dotpups/Desktop-Tools/gdesklets-0.36-i586-2gsb-MU.pet

It is 7 MB, because it includes the pre-installed desklets and localization.

Mark

nutts4life · Joined: 15 Feb 2008 Posts: 263 Location: UK

MU,

Any chance of a puppy 4 version of the gdesklets?

I've asked wow for a big favour:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=27864&search_id=1320829250&start=60

It would be so good if we could get a gnome libraries pet for puppy 4. It makes it easy to get gthumb, dia and gdesklets working.

I was hoping wow muight create:
gnome-python.pet (for gdesklets)
libgnome.pet (gnome and gnomeui for gthumb, dia)
gnome-vfs (for all the good stuff)

I guess dbus might have to be seperate as well.

what are your thoughts on this?

n4l

MU · Posted: Tue 22 Jul 2008, 05:01 Post subject:

In Muppy0083, I added several Gnome-libs and the Panel.
I now saw, that this was an error, because then I was not able to use SFS files, that include other versions of these libs.
So I'd recommend, to use a gnome.sfs, if you want to run Gnome applications.

A Gnome.sfs of reasonable size (85 MB) for Puppy 4 can be found at:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=27864

Myself, I work on a 600 MB version for Muppy0084, I can release an alpha maybe tonight.

Note, that gdesklets do NOT need Gnome-libs, as mentioned in my last post.

You should be able to run Gdesklets in Puppy4 with:
1.) [python_for_CCSM.pet] by tombh [8.6 MB] (python-2.5; pycairo-1.2.6; pygobject-2.12.3; pygtk-2.10.3 ).
2.) the Gdesklets.pet from my former message.

I did not check that myself yet, so just try it, and please report, if you get errors about missing libraries when typing in a console:
gdesklets

Mark

nutts4life · Joined: 15 Feb 2008 Posts: 263 Location: UK

MU,

thanks for your swift reply.

I'm really looking to integrate this into my own puplet (which i'm building from unleashed). So the sfs isn't a worry.

I will test gdesklets in puppy 4 this week.

Thanks,

n4l

MU · Posted: Fri 25 Jul 2008, 20:11 Post subject:

I updated my gdesklets pet and added 200 clocks!.
Changes:
erratic modules quickly fill the logfile with warnings.
Mine was over 4 MB after some hours.
I fixed this by a code-modification:
/usr/lib/gdesklets/utils/__init__.py
Line 47:

MU · Posted: Sun 27 Jul 2008, 03:32 Post subject:

when gdesklets start, they suck up a lot of CPU power, what slows down other apps.
You get better results, if you edit /usr/bin/gdesklets to:

MU · Posted: Mon 28 Jul 2008, 00:13 Post subject:

I made a pet with 4 huge planet clocks.

- Sun (strong corona, light corona, no corona)
- earth
- neptune
- venus

The attached screenshot is scaled down ~50%, and shows the high quality.

Made them from pictures here:
http://www.hschulte.de/Daten/Kosmos/Dateien/download.html
The earth I found somewhere else.

After installing the dotpup type in a consolewindow:

puppyluvr · Posted: Mon 28 Jul 2008, 14:25 Post subject:

Mark,
As you can see, Gdesklets works great on Buddapup Dingo w/Enlightenment.
??? Is there a way to make the Gdesklets background transparent, to show the desktop background behind them????

magerlab · Joined: 08 Jul 2007 Posts: 730

Thanks again Mark and Wow!
gdesklets work fine in PuppyRus( wich is a mix between puppy 3 and 4

also i would like to know where can python be used in puppy

is it possible to make a request for compiling chidsplay ( wich i know uses python)- a child game suite

MU · Posted: Tue 29 Jul 2008, 14:37 Post subject:

puppyluvr

No, you cannot make them transparent.

E17 uses a composite-manager.
It is much faster than "xcompmgr", but basically uses the same technique.
The technique is to use the X composite extension, that allows to render transparent Bitmaps.

Gdesklets are written in Gtk2.
Via google I found out, that older versions of gdesklets had an option to check, that they could render transparent backgrounds using the composite extension.

Unfortunately, this worked only with Gtk2 older than version 2.8.
So it was removed in newer versions of gdesklets.
I tried such an old version myself with xcompmgr, but no luck...
Puppy uses Gtk 2.10 (Puppy3) or 2.12 (Puppy4).
I think, the Puppy 2 versions used 2.8.

Just Puppy 1 used 2.4 if I remember well. That one would work.
But with that one, many new applications will not run, so it is not worth to port that back.

One thing that might work:
get somewhere Gtk 2.4.
Store it in /usr/lib/gtk24
Then run gdesklets .035.3 (older version) like this:

export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib/gtk24:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH
gdesklets

But as gdesklets use Pygtk (Gtk-wrappers for python), here would be another problem.
I don't know, how they would react to such a change.
I fear, also a patched copy of Python had to be used.
So such tricks would not be trivial at all...

I currently use compiz (that uses OpenGL), that plays great with gdesklets.

Mark

puppyluvr · Posted: Tue 29 Jul 2008, 20:03 Post subject:

Hello Mark,
Boy am I Blind!!! Gdesklets are transparent..To the Jwm desktop. What I mistook for a static background was actually the default Dingo desktop background, behind Enlightenment.
So all I have to do is drop out of Enlightenment into Jwm, set my background, then return to Enlightenment and choose the same background..Viola...Transparency!!!!

MU · Posted: Wed 30 Jul 2008, 07:20 Post subject:

ah very cool.
So enlightenment has a very clever way, to handle this.
Hmmm... yes, it could be, that it detects, that they are not windows, but panels.
So it ignores them.

xcompmgr is supposed to do the same with the option -C , but this did not work for me.
So xcompmgr had to be patched to recognize the desklet-class as panel.

Mark

markofkane · Joined: 03 Jul 2008 Posts: 314 Location: Kane, IL USA

I redid my puppy, where can I get python for ccsm.pet? The link is bad.