Does remote desktop function in Puppy?

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Does remote desktop function in Puppy?

#1 Post by Swarup »

Remote desktop is one of the important applications I will need to use. Is there a remote desktop application either preloaded or (more likely) in the Puppy repository?

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#2 Post by disciple »

Yes, but I can't remember if it is preloaded in Puppy 4, or just in the repository.
It is a command line program called rdesktop, with a gui called remotedesktopclient or something like that, and it works perfectly.
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#3 Post by disciple »

If you are running Puppy, look throught the menu (I think it might belong in the "Internet" menu, but I can't recall). Or try running

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rdesktop
in a terminal and you will find out if it's there or not.
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#4 Post by HairyWill »

rdesktop and rdesktop client are not in puppy 4.00 but you can install them from the puppy 3 repository using the package manager
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#5 Post by Swarup »

Thanks for all the help. Sounds like it should be straightforward. :)

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#6 Post by Swarup »

HairyWill wrote:rdesktop and rdesktop client are not in puppy 4.00 but you can install them from the puppy 3 repository using the package manager
I did as you say above, and now "Remote Desktop RDP Client" is listed under Menu -> Network. But when I click on it, nothing happens. How is it supposed to work?

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#7 Post by BHINTZ »

I have also installed it, but cannot get any action. Looking forward to an answer.

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#8 Post by Swarup »

HairyWill wrote:rdesktop and rdesktop client are not in puppy 4.00 but you can install them from the puppy 3 repository using the package manager
I have now installed Puppy 3.01, so I could use Remote Desktop. I thought, ok it's not working in Puppy 4.0, but since it comes in 3.01 it must work there. And in Puppy 3.01 I see that it is indeed present under Menu -> Network -> RemoteDesktop RDP Client. But when I click on it, nothing happens there either. So what does one have to do to activate or use Remote Desktop in Puppy 3.01?

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#9 Post by Swarup »

I just got the solution to the problem. For anyone has gone to Menu -> Network -> RemoteDesktop RDP Client and had nothing happen: just download and install the following two files, and that option will start to work. Here are the files:

1) http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=15639
2) http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=92220

The first one is apparently needed in order for the main one--the second one--to work.

Now, my question is this: It appears to me that this tool is for allowing your computer to see another computer. But what about if you want a person on another computer to be able to see your computer--where are the settings for giving permission for another computer to gain access to your computer.

So this very computer which I am seated at, is going to be the "host". Is there software for setting up the permissions for another to access this computer?

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#10 Post by kirk »

If you want another computer to be able to connect to the desktop you use on your computer, you probably want this:

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 05&t=27424

If you want another computer to be able connect to a different desktop on your computer, you probably want this:

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 504&t=1144

The Xorg server can support many different desktops at the same time, usually you use only one.

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#11 Post by Swarup »

kirk wrote:If you want another computer to be able to connect to the desktop you use on your computer, you probably want this:

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 05&t=27424
Yes, this is what I want. I went to the link though, and it sounds if I understood correctly like it is made for Puppy 4.0. I am using 3.01. Will it still work?

(I know I wrote earlier that I was changing to 3.01 from 4.0 for the RDP. But actually there was another reason as well-- that SCIM does not work in 4.0. So I will need to stick with 3.01 for some time yet.)

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#12 Post by erikson »

Swarup wrote:So I will need to stick with 3.01 for some time yet.
Then you might consider to use pcPuppyOS (final) which is 3.01 based.

It has RemoteDesktop RDP client (with the tck/gnocl GUI) and TightVNC VNC client integrated. Ought to work straight out of the box.

Plus lots of other nice stuff (IceWM, full OpenOffice suite, Firefox, Thunderbird, Gimp, Wine etc).

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#13 Post by Swarup »

Thank you for the suggestion-- I may just try installing this pcPuppyOS final.

Before doing so though, may I ask:
It has RemoteDesktop RDP client (with the tck/gnocl GUI) and TightVNC VNC client integrated.
Now these are both listed in my current 3.01 install. It looks like the RemoteDesktop RDP client is working properly. The TightVNC VNC client though when I open it, opens as a tiny 1 inch window and I'm not confident that it is working. It doesn't seem to have any functionality that I can see.

Can you just clarify for me: in order for someone else on another computer to see my computer--the very desktop that I am working on--what is the name of the software that is needed? Is it the RemoteDesktop RDP client, or the TightVNC VNC client? Or are both needed for this to work?

Perhaps I should try downloading what was recommended to me by Kirk. Although it seemed to be indicated for 4.0, is it likely it may work for 3.01? Or rather, is there any risk associated with trying?

I ask because, aside from this remote desktop issue, everything else seems to be working fine for me in the 3.01 that I have.
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#14 Post by kirk »

If you want someone else to be able to control your desktop then you want x11vnc running on your computer and the other computer needs tightvnc client. To use thightvnc client to connect to a computer running x11vnc, in the tightvnc client window type the IP address of the computer running x11vnc and a colon then the display number, which is always zero for x11vnc. For example:

192.168.254.4:0

Or to state it in a more sane way it's the IP address:0

I haven't tried x11vnc on 3.01. If you want to try it in 3.01, make a new pup_save file to test it. You can do that by booting up with the pfix=ram boot option.

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#15 Post by Swarup »

I see-- what I need then is xllvnc. I can download it here as you have noted, http://www.karlrunge.com/x11vnc/, and as you have suggested, I should save it in a separate new pup_save file to test it. After reading a bit about that, is it to be done at the grub bootup window by hitting "e" over the puppy option and then typing "puppy pfix=ram" at the kernel line?

Erikson mentioned that pcPuppyOS, which is 3.01 based, has RemoteDesktop RDP client (with the tck/gnocl GUI) and TightVNC VNC client integrated. Is the first item mentioned, then, equivalent to xllvnc? (If so, then I guess it does run in 3.01.)

My colleague is running Ubuntu 8.04, which has the Remote Desktop Viewer 0.5.1, "Vinagre", which is a VNC client for the GNOME Desktop. I guess that ought to be able to recognize my xllvnc once installed in my 3.01?

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#16 Post by erikson »

Swarup wrote:Can you just clarify for me: in order for someone else on another computer to see my computer--the very desktop that I am working on--what is the name of the software that is needed? Is it the RemoteDesktop RDP client, or the TightVNC VNC client? Or are both needed for this too work?
Good questions. Of course you need the server part (on your computer); neither RDP client nor VNC client will do the job. Upon inspection, the server part is not included in pcPuppyOS (neither vncserver nor x11vnc), so that's not a complete solution to your requirements. My mistake :-(
Perhaps I should try downloading what was recommended to me by Kirk. Although it seemed to be indicated for 4.0, is it likely it may work for 3.01?
If working on 3.01, I think that's indeed the route to take.
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#17 Post by Swarup »

For anyone interested in using x11vnc in Puppy 3.01, I have tested Kirk's compiled version which he made for Puppy 4.0-- it installs and works perfectly in Puppy 3.01 as well.

Again, here is the link Kirk gave for the download. It works perfectly in 3.01!

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 05&t=27424

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#18 Post by erikson »

Swarup wrote:I have tested Kirk's compiled version which he made for Puppy 4.0-- it installs and works perfectly in Puppy 3.01 as well.
Great!

I posted that info on Kirk's thread as well.
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Swarup wrote:The TightVNC VNC client though when I open it, opens as a tiny 1 inch window and I'm not confident that it is working. It doesn't seem to have any functionality that I can see.
that is a password entry box
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#20 Post by Swarup »

HairyWill wrote:
Swarup wrote:The TightVNC VNC client though when I open it, opens as a tiny 1 inch window and I'm not confident that it is working. It doesn't seem to have any functionality that I can see.
that is a password entry box
This is prototypical of the obstacles that stand in the way of making Linux accessible to the public. How is anyone--especially a new person--supposed to divine what this box is for?

There needs to be some concise indication of what is expected to be placed in that tiny box.

And also it should explain: whose password is expected to be placed there? Isn't this the application for allowing a user to view someone else's computer? And if so, then why isn't it requesting first that computer's IP address, after which it would ask for their password? The answers to these questions should be apparent in the initial window that opens when one clicks on this application.

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