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linuxblues

Joined: 30 Apr 2008
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PostPosted: Thu 01 May 2008, 18:44    Post_subject: wbar  

prit1,
Hey thanks for the quick reply.
Checked out the link and was able to get a rough idea.
Now, where is the wbar config located?
home/.wbar doesn't list any parameters just icons linked to apps...
Checked in .jwmrc-tray like in the link mentioned but cannot seem to locate the thing.

Really liking this macpup.
Was able to autohide the taskbar.

It seems I do not understand the setup which Macpup contains:
Icewm (theme only?)
JWM
Wbar

All parts of the whole, yes?


So to make the experience easier and less work for you:

Goal is a media macpup with wbar in the middle of the page.

tray hidden until needed;

wbar icons zooming as much as possible;

internet, media, chat, real simple for the wife.

She clicks program or file opens/plays


This will likely end up without a keyboard so browser will have bookmarks setup to make it easy.

Anyway I am quite a novice but enjoy puppy a lot. It is the most consistent among the players we've tried.


Have a great night,
Thanks again!

linuxblues
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prit1


Joined: 03 Jan 2008
Posts: 540
Location: Los Angeles

PostPosted: Fri 02 May 2008, 01:00    Post_subject:  

@linuxblues: The code to start wbar is present in .xinitrc under the root folder. This is because Macpup uses icewm by default. It also has JWM. But the mac look is enabled because of the Mac looking theme in Icewm.
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CatDude


Joined: 03 Jan 2007
Posts: 1470
Location: UK

PostPosted: Sat 10 May 2008, 14:18    Post_subject:  

Hello prit1

Just did a FULL install of your Macpup_2.17.1_Alpha1b (nice job)
Installed GRUB, edited the menu.lst and rebooted.

Only to be confronted by the following:
Code:

   -sh error while loading shared libraries
   libreadline.so.5: cannot open shared object file:
   Error 20
   unable to determine TTY name, got /dev/pts/0
   root login on 'pts/0'

Looks like puppyluvr encountered the same problem: see here

So i did a quick search of the forum,
and found this: Can't boot full install from Grub

As Irihapeti notes in the 3rd post, the /usr directory was missing (not copied at install) only a text file called usr with some garbage in it.

Well this is exactly the same issue, only (in this case) the file (script) called usr has the following content:
Code:

   #! /bin/sh
   exec defaultspreadsheet "$1"

So i booted the liveCD and copied the /usr directory to the partition with the FULL install on it.


Rebooted and i managed to get as far as choosing keyboard layout, then i chose xorg, but it would not work.
So i chose xvesa (just so i could have a mooch about).

Looking in /etc/X11
i looked at xorg.conf.NVIDIADEL515b (Yes, i have an nvidia card)
the thing that struck me was the Device Section,
it was trying to use the nvidia driver (which modprobe failed to find).
Code:

Section "Device"
   Identifier  "Card0"
   Driver      "nvidia" #card0driver
   VendorName  "nVidia Corporation"
   BoardName   "NV34 [GeForce FX 5200]"
   BusID       "PCI:1:0:0"
EndSection

So i edited it, to use the nv driver instead
Code:

Section "Device"
   Identifier  "Card0"
   Driver      "nv" #card0driver
   VendorName  "nVidia Corporation"
   BoardName   "NV34 [GeForce FX 5200]"
   BusID       "PCI:1:0:0"
EndSection


The following is as best as i can recall what i did next. (needless to say, it was a PITA)

I then re-ran the xorgwizard, but it still would not work.
So i again re-ran the wizard, when it would not work i edited the xorg.conf via Tweak,
i only edited the VertRefresh in the Monitor Section, still no go.
So i re-ran the wizard again, only this time i told it to use the "Generic Driver"
i ended up being left at a prompt, so i typed xwin and hit enter, and up came the desktop.

Biting the bullet, i rebooted and chose Macpup from the GRUB menu,
and bingo, it went right to the desktop without a hitch.

I hope this may help anybody having similar problems.

CatDude
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prit1


Joined: 03 Jan 2008
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PostPosted: Sat 10 May 2008, 14:46    Post_subject:  

@CatDude: Thank you for the post. I believe this might be of help to folks who are having issues.

Macpup is a simple remaster of Puppy 2.17.1 using a new look. Other than that I wonder how the internal functioning can be any different from 2.17.1. Confused

I never do a full install of Puppy. I already have a good looking grub so I keep using the same with any new Puppy by doing a frugal install. So have never come across such issues.
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CatDude


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PostPosted: Sat 10 May 2008, 15:20    Post_subject:  

prit1 wrote:

Macpup is a simple remaster of Puppy 2.17.1 using a new look.
.

Will you be making one based on a newer version of puppy ?
prit1 wrote:

I never do a full install of Puppy. I already have a good looking grub so I keep using the same with any new Puppy by doing a frugal install. So have never come across such issues.


I have both FULL & FRUGAL installs of various puppies.
I only tried a FULL install of this, as Meshica7 is having trouble with my GRUB package, and i thought that he might still be using this version
(have just noticed his reply, he isnt, hes using a full install of Teenpup 2008) oh well. Laughing

It just so happens i already have a FULL install of that, and i dont have any problems.

CatDude
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prit1


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PostPosted: Sat 10 May 2008, 15:53    Post_subject:  

@CatDude: I have not decided whether or not to release the Macpup using a newer version. I am also contemplating a pet or sfs package that can be plugged into the versions of Puppy. Since there are no additional features in Macpup except the looks.
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CatDude


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PostPosted: Sat 10 May 2008, 18:10    Post_subject:  

prit1 wrote:
@CatDude: I have not decided whether or not to release the Macpup using a newer version. I am also contemplating a pet or sfs package that can be plugged into the versions of Puppy. Since there are no additional features in Macpup except the looks.


OK, i will keep an eye open for it Wink

CatDude
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Meshica7


Joined: 30 Mar 2008
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PostPosted: Sat 10 May 2008, 20:16    Post_subject:  

Quote:
I have both FULL & FRUGAL installs of various puppies.
I only tried a FULL install of this, as Meshica7 is having trouble with my GRUB package, and i thought that he might still be using this version
(have just noticed his reply, he isnt, hes using a full install of Teenpup 2008) oh well. Laughing



Ah but I configured it to look like MacPup now! Very Happy

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=4001&start=420

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Juan
Teen Pup 2008,Wbar, OSX Icons."Teen Mac Pup"?
TigerPup on usb stick with modded Wbar & Mac4Lin Emerald theme
OS X Tiger on a Power Mac G3
System 7 on a Macintosh Plus (old skool baby!)
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mrd

Joined: 27 Nov 2007
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PostPosted: Thu 15 May 2008, 15:48    Post_subject: Where can I download macpup?  

I can't seem to find a working link for this...
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prit1


Joined: 03 Jan 2008
Posts: 540
Location: Los Angeles

PostPosted: Thu 15 May 2008, 16:06    Post_subject:  

@mrd: The first link is correct. I can see the files there as we speak.

The second link had changed as Caneri had changed the Puppylinux.ca server directory structure. I have updated this on the main post now.

Thanks for catching this and sorry for any inconvenience.
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mrd

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PostPosted: Fri 16 May 2008, 10:31    Post_subject:  

I love it!

When is the Dingo version coming out????
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prit1


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PostPosted: Fri 16 May 2008, 12:15    Post_subject:  

@mrd: Am glad you like it. Dingo version - Soon !! Smile
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