Pencil animation/drawing software QT4

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Pencil animation/drawing software QT4

#1 Post by ttuuxxx »

Hi I came across this application and wanted to give it a try, I was using 3.02 at the time.
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Pencil is an animation/drawing software for Linux. It lets you create traditional hand-drawn animation (cartoon) using both bitmap and vector graphics. Pencil is free and open source.

Pencil is not intended to mimick web-oriented vector-based animation software such as Flash. Its main purpose is to make traditional animation. Neither does it try to rival commercial software targeting the professional animation sector. Pencil is intended to be a simple program enabling anyone to make 2D animation.

It needs QT4 libraries which I installed from Puppylinux.ca
Once installed the qt4 libraries don't seem to register with usr/lib so I made some system links, then some parts of the Qt4 were missing from the q4 install, so I added those, and a few more audio/png files and finally it worked:)
So I packaged it all up and here it is.

Qt4 library
http://www.puppylinux.ca/pet4/qt4-4.3.2.pet

And Pencil is below
hope it works well for you.
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#2 Post by Lobster »

Tried in Puppy 3.99 (Dingo Beta 2)
Wot no animated rastapix logo yet? :wink:

This is as far as I got

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# ./pencil
./pencil: error while loading shared libraries: libGLU.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
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#3 Post by ttuuxxx »

Lobster wrote:Tried in Puppy 3.99 (Dingo Beta 2)
Wot no animated rastapix logo yet? :wink:

This is as far as I got

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# ./pencil
./pencil: error while loading shared libraries: libGLU.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
Hey lobster

I'm fixing it as we speak, Is the Qt4 library broken in 4 series because once again the file is included with Qt4 but its not being located in user/libs the actual file is in /usr/X11R7/lib/libGLU.so.1
I'll system link it to usr/lib but I shouldn't have to do this. maybe Qt4 should be installed to usr/libs and not /usr/X11R7/lib/
well its updated give it a try :)
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#4 Post by JB4x4 »

Shouldn't "libGLU.so.1" be part of an Xorg package - not QT?

I tried out Pencil in Puppy 3.99. I downloaded the Pencil.pet - installed the QT4 package via PETget (ibiblio repository), and have the Fatdog.sfs running (libGLU.so.1 included in sfs). Works like a charm.

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#5 Post by vovchik »

Dear Puppians,

Just for your info, I compiled pencil some weeks ago and had problems with it - and all qt4 apps - because, when exiting, xorg would crash. I scoured all the qt4 forums for answers and found none. Eventually, I saw something under the icewm forums that said an error with qt4 had been fixed (I use icewm). Once I upgraded icewm, qt4 no longer gave problems, and I can now run and exit qt4 apps without xorg crashes. So the problems I was experiencing were not related to pencil or qt4 under Puppy 3.01, but my buggy version - at least in qt4 terms - of icewm.

with kind regards,
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#6 Post by Lobster »

Ttuuxxx
Downloaded and tried again. No luck
Then added fatdog
I tried out Pencil in Puppy 3.99. I downloaded the Pencil.pet - installed the QT4 package via PETget (ibiblio repository), and have the Fatdog.sfs
running (libGLU.so.1 included in sfs). Works like a charm.
. . ..and I have Pencil running in Dingo.
Looks good. Outputs to swf

Thanks guys. This looks like some fun :)
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#7 Post by ttuuxxx »

Lobster wrote:Ttuuxxx
Downloaded and tried again. No luck
Then added fatdog
I tried out Pencil in Puppy 3.99. I downloaded the Pencil.pet - installed the QT4 package via PETget (ibiblio repository), and have the Fatdog.sfs
running (libGLU.so.1 included in sfs). Works like a charm.
. . ..and I have Pencil running in Dingo.
Looks good. Outputs to swf

Thanks guys. This looks like some fun :)
Hey lobster next time I boot 4.0 I'll make a new package for it :)
Thanks and have a nice day
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#8 Post by RR Koothady »

Hi!

The drawing tools are simple and I really feel wonderful to use them. This definitely is a great program.

I installed qt.pet and then pencil.pet. No Problem. It works wonderfully. I am in Lobster's Timexxine 3.01.

Thank You ttuuxxx!

RRK

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#9 Post by vovchik »

Dear ttuuxxx,

Please tell me what style you are using for your qt4 apps. I use "bespin", but yours looks better, much more like regular OSX.

with thanks in advance and kind regards,
vovchik

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#10 Post by kevin-isca »

Hi

This is a great! I have been looking for a simple animation program.
All works but with the export to .swf I get
sh-3.00# pencil
pencil: /usr/lib/libpng12.so.0: no version information available (required by /usr/lib/libQtGui.so.4)
Hello
"/opt/qt4/plugins"
"//opt/qt4/bin"
"//opt/qt4/lib"
------Flash------ 10
libpng error: Incompatible libpng version in application and library
Segmentation fault
sh-3.00#
I have NOP and ttuuxx's qt4
I have had a similar message when trying to run audacity-1.3.2-beta.pup

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... e885e84f72

Any ideas would be really valued

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#11 Post by vovchik »

Dear kevin-isca,

My own compiled version of pencil - using reqular puppy qt4 libs (on Puppy 3.01) - exports swf just fine - no segfaults or any other problems. You may be missing a few libs.

with kind regards,
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#12 Post by ttuuxxx »

kevin-isca wrote:Hi

This is a great! I have been looking for a simple animation program.
All works but with the export to .swf I get
sh-3.00# pencil
pencil: /usr/lib/libpng12.so.0: no version information available (required by /usr/lib/libQtGui.so.4)
Hello
"/opt/qt4/plugins"
"//opt/qt4/bin"
"//opt/qt4/lib"
------Flash------ 10
libpng error: Incompatible libpng version in application and library
Segmentation fault
sh-3.00#
well since it looks like a libpng problem try another png.

http://www.puppylinux.ca/pet4/libpng-1.2.22.pet <-- puppy 4.0 series, try it anyways you can always uninstall it :)
also
http://www.puppylinux.ca/pet3/libpng-1.2.18.pet <--- puppy 3.0 series
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#13 Post by kevin-isca »

Thanks for both of your responses. When I am staring at a screen going duh it helps that there is someone else out there :)

ttuuxx - I have tried both libpng links but with no joy

vovchik - Did you compile Ming before Pencil? I am getting error messages when extracting the file.

The only joy is that using qt4-4.3.1 instead of qt4-4.3.2 removes the
pencil: /usr/lib/libpng12.so.0: no version information available (required by /usr/lib/libQtGui.so.4) error
I am still left with the segmentation error on trying to export.

For my own sanity I have run Pencil with export successfully on ubuntu although with no sound.

I am trying to build a set of tools to work with in my class of 10-11 year olds. So far we have sound and rhythm with Audacity and Hydrogen, Gimp for graphics and open office for text and presentation. Animation and Video is the stumbling block so far. I am using cross platform open source as much as possible as it makes it far easier for families to access things at home. All good ideas its just getting the time to put everything together.

Cheers

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#14 Post by ttuuxxx »

kevin-isca wrote:Thanks for both of your responses. When I am staring at a screen going duh it helps that there is someone else out there :)

ttuuxx - I have tried both libpng links but with no joy

vovchik - Did you compile Ming before Pencil? I am getting error messages when extracting the file.

The only joy is that using qt4-4.3.1 instead of qt4-4.3.2 removes the
pencil: /usr/lib/libpng12.so.0: no version information available (required by /usr/lib/libQtGui.so.4) error
I am still left with the segmentation error on trying to export.

For my own sanity I have run Pencil with export successfully on ubuntu although with no sound.

I am trying to build a set of tools to work with in my class of 10-11 year olds. So far we have sound and rhythm with Audacity and Hydrogen, Gimp for graphics and open office for text and presentation. Animation and Video is the stumbling block so far. I am using cross platform open source as much as possible as it makes it far easier for families to access things at home. All good ideas its just getting the time to put everything together.

Cheers
Ok here's the deal since you have a class of students
just tell me which puppy version/model your using and i"ll try to get it going for you :)
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#15 Post by kevin-isca »

Wow :D
Ok here's the deal since you have a class of students
just tell me which puppy version/model your using and i"ll try to get it going for you
ttuuxxx
Rumour has it that the puppy forums are a friendly place! Proof positive!

Ok, I am running NOP r1 which as far as I can see is 3.01 with stuff taken out and XFCE opera and flash put in.

I only have one other package with QT4 which is VYM 1.10 and I was using QT4 4.3.1
I ran a clean install of NOP and hit the same error so I don't think it is anything else I have added that's causing the problem.

I appreciate your kind offer ttuuxx

Cheers

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#16 Post by swiatmar »

Wow :)

pencil is a very nice animation tool. very simple and has everything what I need for simple animation instead flash.

There is only one problem in my pencil. everytime i try to save new animation as .swf the program is crashing. and I am losing everything :(

Has any one the same problem? and an idea how to fix it?

mar

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#17 Post by ttuuxxx »

swiatmar wrote:Wow :)

pencil is a very nice animation tool. very simple and has everything what I need for simple animation instead flash.

There is only one problem in my pencil. everytime i try to save new animation as .swf the program is crashing. and I am losing everything :(

Has any one the same problem? and an idea how to fix it?

mar
well we all had that problem, and wasn't able to fix it, I haven't looked at it lately, but I'll try to compile it again when a newer less buggy release is released :)
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#18 Post by vovchik »

Dear Puppians,

I compiled the new pencil - 0.4.4.b - on Puppy 3.01 with qt 4.4.1 without problems. Unlike my earlier version, this one started mangling the swf output, doing something wrong in the rendering of bitmaps. I had wanted to install the new version because the former one would not produce sound on my system. After noticing the newly mangled swfs, I installed the latest ming package (libs and executables) from the Slackware 12.0 repo. Still no luck. I think there are bugs in the latest pencil, as ttuuxxx has suggested. We will probably have to wait a bit until they fix them. Apart from that, pencil is indeed a nice program.

With kind regards,
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#19 Post by battleshooter »

I'm with everyone, Pencil's awesome, thanks for the pet Ttuuxxx, but I can't seem to use the export movie function. Using it on Quirky. It's no big deal, just thought I'd mention it after playing with it a bit. Fun program!

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#20 Post by vovchik »

Dear Puppians,

I seem to recall that I figured out why the new version crashed. Everything was fine when libming was 0.3:

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/usr/lib/libming.so -> libming.so.0
 /usr/lib/libming.so.0 -> libming.so.0.3.0
Things get dicey in pencil with libming.so.1.4.x. When I restored those old libming links, pencil was able to export.

With kind regards,
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