Puppy 4 Beta Bugs

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floborg · #121 Post by **floborg** » Fri 11 Apr 2008, 21:49

Every so often, the boot stalls at the point an IP address is obtained. I'm using both fastboot options. The printout states there is a 60s timeout, but nothing happens after 60s. I can press Enter to get to the command line and type startx to get to the desktop.

floborg · #122 Post by **floborg** » Sat 12 Apr 2008, 05:01

The mysterious and destructive unionfs (?) problem discussed in the threads below still occurs in Dingo.

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=27178

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=27407

When the problem occurs, no programs can write to the pup save file. Some larger programs (seamonkey, geany, gxine) will not start. Smaller programs, like Leafpad, still work. You also cannot modify files in the pup save layer with ROX. I've found no way to return a corrupted pup save to normal. When the problem manifests itself, I can kiss that file goodbye.

disciple · #123 Post by **disciple** » Sat 12 Apr 2008, 06:35

Like in the alphas, pmount doesn't see my Linux swap partition. I never had trouble with it in Puppy 1.x or 2.x.
I just found that if I switch pmount to use the MUT2 engine, then it shows the swap partition, but doesn't know what it is, and gives me a mount button, which doesn't work of course.

I just realised how stupid I was. The reason I have to run the alsawizard every time I boot, is that Puppy automatically configures my ONBOARD sound card, but I am using a different PCI soundcard (I think someone else might have pointed this out before). In my opinion this behaviour is VERY BAD. If I set up a card with the alsa wizard, and choose to save the settings, then they should actually be saved, not ignored because Puppy is too smart and automatically sets up something else again.

Hotpup is pretty cool!

GeoW · #124 Post by **GeoW** » Sat 12 Apr 2008, 07:20

disciple,

I think your swap partition is being used. For some reason
pmount doesn't see ( or report ) it.

In puppy 3.01 pmount has a nice entry:

Swap partitions
Currently in use /dev/hdb5 500M

This does not appear in Dingo Beta 1.

However in puppies 3.01, 3.96, 3.97, & 3.98

in /tmp/bootkernel.log every one in line 227 says adding swap

and in /tmp/bootsysinit.log everu one in line 1 says loading swap.

I think it must be a pmout thing - either a bug or a decision.

GeoW

T_B · #125 Post by **T_B** » Sat 12 Apr 2008, 08:38

I have had a couple of seamonkey crashes. I was busy typing a comment for this forum and was switching to bbc site and listening to live streams.
[edit] The BBC site caused the most crashes, but also on other sites clicking on seemingly harmless links caused some crashes.

- Youtube full screen doesn't work.
- BBC streams (radio) don't work 'out of the box', you need to select gxine as default player. Not a big deal for me, but I guess it can be confusing for beginners.
- BBC streams (video) don't work at all. Probably a codec issue, but IMHO this should work out of the box. BBC is always my first check for stream capabilities.
The BBC player streams do work btw. The issue is with streams opened by xine.

- Junk filter support out of the box would be nice (not a bug of course)

Sage · #126 Post by **Sage** » Sat 12 Apr 2008, 08:55

Sometimes it's possible to see that a swap partition is working when cfdisk & Pthing aren't responding by inspecting its entry in GPartEd. If it's in use, it'll be locked down. Furthermore, often it cannot be unlocked with GPartEd and swapoff may not work, either.
The sooner we can persuade Jesse to finish up on MUT2, the sooner we can all get back to business. At least BK has earmarked it for inclusion, again.

BarryK · #127 Post by **BarryK** » Sat 12 Apr 2008, 09:25

Guys, please note that I am working through this thread, solving problems one at a time, or implementing something that you have fixed. I won't necessarily respond here though, but to my blog.

For those who have the problem with Puppy shutting down without saving the first session, I think that I know what the problem is. I'll announce that on the blog too, after thinking about it some more.

Things are moving along! We are knocking down one bug after another, nothing has really stumped us so far!

#128 Post by **BÃ©Ã¨m** » Sat 12 Apr 2008, 10:21

Barry, thank you for reminding us how you operate.

DreamsToGo · #129 Post by **DreamsToGo** » Sat 12 Apr 2008, 11:26

JVM configuration,

When I try to change the JVM configuration by going to,

Desktop/JVM configuration/Tray Management/Tray Autohide Option/ON

I get a message,

"New config currupt. Keeping Original"

I have this on two Frugal installs.

DreamsToGo · #130 Post by **DreamsToGo** » Sat 12 Apr 2008, 11:30

T_B, I'm like you, one of the first things I try on a distribution is to play BBC streams. None of them play them 'out of the box', not even Ubuntu, my reference distro.

For Puppy 4, I have installed Xine, with its mozilla plugin. I find it much better than gxine. To play BBC streams I have had to install Mplayer and its plugins too. Works fine.

drongo · #131 Post by **drongo** » Sat 12 Apr 2008, 13:50

The standard Puppy screenlock (with the "lava lamp" look) gives me a password screen but won't let me type anything in to set the password. Running from CD with brand new pupsave file.

bde · #132 Post by **bde** » Sat 12 Apr 2008, 13:52

Every time, I try to play a CD using the built-in player in the docking station by using Gxine (media player), the xwin crashes. The computer returns to console. The audio adapter (built-in) is OPL3SA2 - Yamaha OPL3-SA23 based on system information summary. The memory size is 96MB.

capoverde · #133 Post by **capoverde** » Sat 12 Apr 2008, 14:39

Testing Puppy4Beta on another machine (AMD Athlon XP on a K7SOM+ MB by ECS), it does start correctly with Xorg, i. e., HotPup displays all drive icons at the bottom, the first-time help tab appears at the top and the double bark is heard; thus there must be some kind of hardware incompatibility. Not so with Xvesa, requiring to restart X just as with the former PC (prev. posts p.6-7).

Same behavior with either X server when trying to set a different number of virtual desktops -- "New config corrupt. Keeping original".

MhWaveEdit seems more prone to hang than ever before - even OGG files, which were usually played smoothly, may block it beyond hope. It does continue to run in the background even if killed, reboot needed.

HotPup (once started) is a real gem, never to live without again: kudos to Dougal & Pakt. It contributes to the overall feeling that Puppy4 is making another giant step forward.

GrumpyWolfe · #134 Post by **GrumpyWolfe** » Sat 12 Apr 2008, 15:28

Hi all

I have done some work on my Pxset and if anyone would like to test it I posted it here http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 602#189602

Any commits will be helful.

lluamco · #135 Post by **lluamco** » Sat 12 Apr 2008, 17:03

In this threat,
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 0&start=30
it was suggested that petget should improve its way to estimate the free space to install new packages. I am not sure whether the present petget version in Puppy 4beta assumes correctly the blocksizes of the files and the filesystems. I suggest minor changes to the code which -I think- could improve the free space estimation.

Code: Select all

  EXPFREEB=`stat --filesystem --format=%f /` #no. free blocks. (1 k blocks)
  EXPFILEB=`stat --format=%b $APKGNAMEEX` #no. blocks. (512 byte blocks)
### EXPFILEB=`stat --format=%b hplip-2.8.4.pet` #no. blocks. # test pet 
#  EXPNEEDB=`expr $EXPFILEB \* 2` #bz2 can expand up to x3, need twice temp space
# . v3.01 changed 5 to 3. v3.92 changed to 2. 
#note, probably better to do like this: EXPNEEDB=$($(($EXPFREEB*3))) 
  
  BLOCKFSSIZE=`stat --filesystem --format=%s /` #filesystem blocksize
  BLOCKFILESIZE=`stat --format=%B $APKGNAMEEX` # blockfilesize
  EXPNEEDB=$(($(($EXPFILEB*6))/(($BLOCKFSSIZE))*(($BLOCKFILESIZE))))

Hope it helps

T_B · #136 Post by **T_B** » Sat 12 Apr 2008, 17:36

DreamsToGo wrote:T_B, I'm like you, one of the first things I try on a distribution is to play BBC streams. None of them play them 'out of the box', not even Ubuntu, my reference distro.

For Puppy 4, I have installed Xine, with its mozilla plugin. I find it much better than gxine. To play BBC streams I have had to install Mplayer and its plugins too. Works fine.

Thanks for the advise. I will wait for the next update before trying it, I'm having problems saving my first session.

Puppy was the distro with the best out of the box experience for me, but since I own an eeepc the Xandros version for eeepc has become the standard.
Everything works out of the box and a boot time of less than 30 sec!

Kal · #137 Post by **Kal** » Sat 12 Apr 2008, 17:37

DreamsToGo and capoverde

The problem with JWM configuration saying "New config corrupt. Keeping original", has already been addressed by BarryK. Check Barry's blog and this thread.

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=27975

bde · #138 Post by **bde** » Sat 12 Apr 2008, 19:40

As the subject says, when clicking Summary under Computer in System Information obtained from Menu/System/Hardinfo hardware information, the Hardinfo application crashes immediately without any additional information. This thinkpad has 4G of RAM.

Update: This problem seems like is associated with restarting from a saved puppy session. I saved this with heavy encryption. Later, I deleted this and restarted fresh. The crash problem disappeared.

WN2A · #139 Post by **WN2A** » Sat 12 Apr 2008, 23:02

Hello All:
Puppy 4 Beta 1 looks great, and works great, but I can't install dotpets (*.pet) that worked great on Puppy 2.16 thru 3.01 inclusive. Seems like I have dependency issues (library related??) on all these.

1) xpaint-2.7.0 : PETget Package manager message is:

........HOWEVER, these dependencies are missing:
File /usr/local/bin/xpaint has these missing library files:
libXaw95.so.7 .......

It creates the menu entry but can't run

2) Both qucs-0.0.13-i486 and qucs-0.0.14-i486

(I am the "packager" for QUCS on Puppy Linux, my "claim to fame")
I installed qt-3.3.8.pet first from repository ibiblio.org, OK.
PETget Package manager messages are:

........HOWEVER, these dependencies are missing:
File /usr/local/bin/qucs has these missing library files:
libqt-mt.so.3
File /usr/local/bin/qucsedit has these missing library files:
libqt-mt.so.3
File /usr/local/bin/qucshelp has these missing library files:
libqt-mt.so.3
File /usr/local/bin/qucstrans has these missing library files:
libqt-mt.so.3
File /usr/local/bin/qucsfilter has these missing library files:
libqt-mt.so.3
File /usr/local/bin/qucslib has these missing library files:
libqt-mt.so.3
File /usr/local/bin/qucsattenuator has these missing library files:
libqt-mt.so.3

So I tried creating a symlink (muggins suggested this in an earlier post) http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=22591
but got same results

3) openoffice_cutdown3-2.2.0.pet (from repository ibiblio.org)
Several (different) dependencies. It creates the menu entry but can't run.

4) fldigi-1.34-i486.pet also same results. Was available from
http://www.w1hkj.com/Fldigi.html

Any suggestions?? Otherwise Puppy 4 Beta 1 looks very promising.
WN2A

jcagle · #140 Post by **jcagle** » Sun 13 Apr 2008, 00:57

Finally got around to trying Hotpup (saw a lot of talk about it, but didn't know what it was before now)

So, when I try to apply the settings, it says it failed to apply the new mode, and restores the old one.

Maybe this has been brought up here already, I didn't really look, but I will later... good idea with hotpup...

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Puppy 4 Beta Bugs

Swap partion not recognised & soundcard autodect is BAD.

Swap partition

xwin crashes from gxine media player

Pxset .03

petget and not enough disk space: Suggestion

New config corrupt. Keeping original

Menu/System/Hardinfo...->Computer Summary crashes this app

Dotpets on Puppy 4 Beta 1