Firefox 1, 2 and 3

What features/apps/bugfixes needed in a future Puppy

Which version of Firefox is best?

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darrelljon
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Firefox 1, 2 and 3

#1 Post by darrelljon »

Which version of Mozilla Firefox is best? I notice Damn Small Linux used Firefox 1 for a while, but Firefox 3 seems quite fast too.

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#2 Post by MU »

I usually use FF2, and am quite happy with it on a P700 with 1 gig of Ram.
I actually encountered crashes with flash 9 again, so I'll revert to flash 0.9.48 in the next Muppy.

I use Firebird 0.8 occasionally to visit malicious or buggy sites, when I don't want to risk, that they could crash my already opened FF2 with many opened tabs.

Con: FF 0.8 is quite usable, but encounters wrong CSS formating on some sites.
Pro: it seems to use less CPU resources.

Since I have the Orbit theme for seamonkey, I use that one more often, too.
I just wish the buttons were smaller.
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=27260
One reason I used seamonkey so seldom, was the "outdated" look.

Mark
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#3 Post by ttuuxxx »

Well I've haven't had any problems with the latest Firefox 2 series, but the write-ups on the 3 series and what it brings is incredible, Its supose to be 3 times faster then the 2 series, and also the fastest full sized browser in the world, faster than Seamonkey, Opera, All other Firefox's, Internet explorer, Safari etc, I've tried it a few times and always had problems with the CSS formating, Maybe because its a beta, who knows?
So I personally will stick with the 2 series. Until the official release of 3, then I'll give it another shot.
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#4 Post by jonyo »

Aren't there security issues running older vers. browsers. :?

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#5 Post by ttuuxxx »

jonyo wrote:Aren't there security issues running older vers. browsers. :?
Yes there are, But I would only do that on trusted websites, Some would says whats the odds? DSL does runs old versions of browsers. For the size factor.
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#7 Post by koolie »

Firefox 3.0b5pre is exceptionally fast, and uses memory much better than previously.
Extremely stable. No more crashing, with Flashplayer 9.0.r48.
It is as nimble as Opera now.
Not all extensions have been upgraded for it yet, but the most important ones have (noscript etc).
It may not run on all distros. I have had probs with it on several distros, and on Puppy2.
Runs well on Puppy3+4.

My vote: 5 woofs.

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#8 Post by Botanic »

cannot start firefox 3

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firefox-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libxul.so: cannot handle TLS data
i downloaded from this adress:
http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla ... 686/en-US/

since i can't access most of the official webpages of firefox
(54) Connection reset by peer

(also happened before, actually)
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#9 Post by big_bass »

Botanic wrote:cannot start firefox 3

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firefox-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libxul.so: cannot handle TLS data
i downloaded from this adress:
http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla ... 686/en-US/

since i can't access most of the official webpages of firefox
(54) Connection reset by peer

(also happened before, actually)

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=27773
The latest stable non BETA with flash

http://www.ttuuxxx.com/bigbass/firefox-2.0.0.13.pet

test your flash here
http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/welcome/

if you have java too test java here
http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp



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#10 Post by ttuuxxx »

I find Firefox 2 is more stable and has a better CSS rendering than Firefox 3.
But on the other hand Firefox 3 is the fastest full sized browser on the planet, Its 4-5 times faster than Firefox 2. So its up to you,
FF 1 = Lots of security leaks, Not as stable as #2, not as fast as #3, Not really smart option for most.
FF 2 = stability
FF 3 = speed
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Indic Unicode Fonts Render CORRECTLY Now

#11 Post by RR Koothady »

Hello:

Up till the release of Firefox 3, ALL BROWSERS IN ALL THE LINUX DISTRIBUTIONS were (and still are) rendering "Indic Unicode Fonts" (Tamil, Malayalam, Telugu, Kannada, Marathi, Oriya, Bengali, Hindi, Punjabi etc) INCORRECTLY. (IE renders them correctly, however)

NOW... Firefox Version 3 renders them CORRECTLY!

In a similar way ABIWORD, before the current v-2.6.2, could not render Indic Unicode Fonts correctly. Like Firefox 3, Abiword 2.6.2 has the capacity to render them correctly.

It may also be of interest to Indic Localizers of Puppy - that JWM and ICEWM do not render the Indic Fonts correctly. [Note: ROXFiler does the job perfectly]. However, XFCE-WM, with its Thunar File Manager (I am testing 4.4.1) renders them excellently. (I have not tried Enlightenment WM yet)

So, for Indic Puppies, FF3, Abiword2.6.2 and XFCE4 seem to be a necessity rather than mere choices.

Font Rendering by apps., was one of the prime blocks to Linux Localization in India. Now with Firefox 3, Abi2.6.2, and Xfce4 - be ready to welcome many Indic Puplets!!

BTW: For those who may be interested to test run Firefox3.0b5, here is the dot pet I am using (12.73MB). You may download it from the following link:

http://rapidshare.com/files/109493812/f ... 5.pet.html

(Note: many lib files are said to be missing, so says the post installation warning note. However FF3 works without crash in my Puppy 3.01. Flash 9 also works. I am unable to compile a dotpet without these errors, so can anyone bring out a cleaner error free FF3 pet? Thanks in advance)

RRK

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#12 Post by amitagroyee »

from where can I get the new abiword for puppy?

amit

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#13 Post by ttuuxxx »

amitagroyee wrote:from where can I get the new abiword for puppy?

amit
from me :)
http://www.puppylinux.ca/ttuuxxx/progra ... -2.6.2.pet
http://www.puppylinux.ca/ttuuxxx/progra ... i-Libs.pet
enjoy :)
http://audio.online-convert.com/ <-- excellent site
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http://html5games.com/ <-- excellent HTML5 games :)

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#14 Post by RR Koothady »

To ttuuxxx: Thank You very much for creating Abi 2.6.2 pet. Without it Indic Puppy Projects will take a little more time to arrive.

To JB4x4 - who created the nice XFCE 4 pets: Thank You very much for making these pets available. Your work is sure to help Puppy to make inroads into India soon.

Ramesh

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#15 Post by amitagroyee »

thanks ttuuxxx for providing the files.

Thanks RR Koothady for provind the Firefox 3pet.

I installed these packages successfully.

there is one problem about Firefox. The font used in menu etc in very small and somewhere overlapping. How can I increase or change the font?

Is there any solution?


Amit Agroyee

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#16 Post by RR Koothady »

Dear Amit:

I also had the same problem. What I have done for the time being is to go to:

Menu ..... Desktop ...... Set Global Font Size

Change the current set value to a higher one.
I have placed it at 84 DPI.
Now the fonts look agreeably bigger.

Ramesh

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#17 Post by amitagroyee »

Dear RRKoothadi

When I imported all the fonts from windows directory in puppy linux, it automatically selected another font and now it is much better.

Hope it will be useful for others also.

Amit

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#18 Post by RR Koothady »

Dear Amit

That's cool! Thank You!!

Ramesh

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#19 Post by Colonel Panic »

I downloaded Swiftfox (a speed-optimised version of Firefox) and it works well in Puppy. If others are interested, here's the link;

http://getswiftfox.com/

One problem I found in Firefox (and Flock as well, which is based on Firefox) is that it keeps wanting to update itself automatically whenever a new version is released, which takes up a lot of bandwidth when you're on dialup as I am.

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#20 Post by SirDuncan »

Colonel,
Go to "Edit>Preferences" and then click "Advanced" and then the update tab. You can now tell Firefox, or probably any other Mozilla based browser, to not update automatically.
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