Macpup 2.17.1 Alpha 1

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#41 Post by earlytv »

Notes from all day.


First, thanks for super fast download site, I mean super fast, like 1.4 meg bytes per sec, you can see the bar screaming across as it loads.
Thanks for early link to site in a PM.

2nd I will try items on it all day on and off, so far I have gone from site to site to site, ect and its solid. The Yahoo movie preview works great so do movies full screen and small screen, music CDs great . Printer fine will try to install scanner later. Road Runner site fine. I think you added a log out icon on the bottom, it works. I think you fixed looking and asking for keyboard, it worked. I always use xorg at 1024x768 my monitor wont go higher, xversa gave me 800x600 max they look great.
Last, I gave it a acid test on hardware I will use in MAC SE case. (only 9 inch monitor)
The largest problem for all puppies there is, strange monitor I used, its the only thing that fits in the case and has very old strange standards. It works at 800x600 fine, about all you can use
on a 9 inch monitor, 1024x768, all is too small.

Looks great!!

Still rock solid. Been on for most of day.

minor item, icons on bottom still dont show untill I click screen.
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#42 Post by prit1 »

@pdrito: Thank you very much for the feedback. I am glad you liked this derivative.

@earlytv: Thank you for the detailed feedback and testing. Appreciate this a lot.

I will see if I can get a fix to the icons showing up automatically without clicking.

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#43 Post by ttuuxxx »

Hi guys I made another icewm package #7
Basically it has a puppy theme I made, I has taken me hourssss to do. All the graphics like the max,min buttons everything basically, even the code came from 3 different icewm packages then I adjusted/deleted redid etc.
just install the package and exit to prompt then type startx icewm
I'll really like the buttons a dog paw and 2 dog-bones :)
I also placed WhoDo's ruby red over my theme and gave that to tronkel for the next release of puppy 3.02. Its not included in this release because I'm keeping it small.
My next and final hopefully release will have the free memory applet included.
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#44 Post by prit1 »

@Ttuuxxx: Thanks for the update. This is cool. The menu with icons, blinky working finally even in the brushed metal theme I had. Can be used in the next version of Macpup. I just have to figure out how to change the background of blinky to suite the almost white background for brushed metal theme.

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#45 Post by ttuuxxx »

prit1 wrote:@Ttuuxxx: Thanks for the update. This is cool. The menu with icons, blinky working finally even in the brushed metal theme I had. Can be used in the next version of Macpup. I just have to figure out how to change the background of blinky to suite the almost white background for brushed metal theme.
I spent days trying to change the background lol and you'll have it done in seconds now, man your lucky :)
/root/.icewm/startup <---- open startup as text
it will look like this when opened
#!/bin/bash
# this script is executed by starticewm when IceWM starts

killall icesound
icesound &

killall icewmtray
icewmtray &

killall blinky
sleep 2 && /root/my-applications/blinky-0.8-icewm/src/blinky -bg "#49437a" & <------------Change this number to the color you want
xwin starticewm


hope that helps :)
ttuuxxx

Ps you'll have to exit x and type startx icewm :)
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#46 Post by prit1 »

@Ttuuxxx: Thanks for that tip. Just one more question. How can I make wbar appear automatically? I tried the adding it to the startup script and would not work. We have to click on the desktop atleast once for wbar to appear.

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#47 Post by ttuuxxx »

prit1 wrote:@Ttuuxxx: Thanks for that tip. Just one more question. How can I make wbar appear automatically? I tried the adding it to the startup script and would not work. We have to click on the desktop atleast once for wbar to appear.
I'll try to figure that one tomorrow but I have a final release of my icewm lite http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 203#183203
it has the free memory applet working:)
enjoy :)
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#48 Post by lesel »

I use to run yellowdog linux on my older mac machines, I noticed they use DR17 as their window manager on their current version.
http://www.terrasoftsolutions.com/produ ... ntro.shtml do you super studs think this WM would be a nice add-on or option to the MacPup? I'm going to install yellowdog on my older G4 machine partition to see how it looks since I'm have problems with getting it to run on puppy due to dependencies and linux skill level =). Thanks http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 98&t=22934

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#49 Post by earlytv »

How is MacPup doing? Anything more to test?
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#50 Post by prit1 »

@earlytv: The only things left to do from my part for now is to fix the autostart of the wbar and to move to the latest version of ttuuxxx's light icewm. This fixes the blinky, icons etc. I will send you the link when I have this done. Do you think there is anything else that will be needed in the Macpup for now?

Till now, there were only about 88 downloads from 1 download link in the last 8 days. I think the lack of any really great features in this version is the reason for the low interest shown.

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#51 Post by earlytv »

In about 1 week I will get to sit at my brothers real MAC to see what its like.

Not on a aproved list but I found SeaMonkey adons. The HOME button and a delete personal data button are ok. Has anyone delt with these? I have them on my 2.17 now. It depends what version SeaMonkey you use if you can install these.
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#52 Post by pdrito »

prit1 wrote:@earlytv: The only things left to do from my part for now is to fix the autostart of the wbar and to move to the latest version of ttuuxxx's light icewm. This fixes the blinky, icons etc. I will send you the link when I have this done. Do you think there is anything else that will be needed in the Macpup for now?

Till now, there were only about 88 downloads from 1 download link in the last 8 days. I think the lack of any really great features in this version is the reason for the low interest shown.

prit1,

Thanks again for your puppy derivative.

Can I sugest an addon ?

Well, since I want to easy add some software to your macpuppy, I ask to Mu, puppian guru and SFS-Combiner tool author if it is possible to make work the SFS-Combiner on puppy 2.17.1

(See this link, http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 7&start=15 )

Till now , no answer.
So maybe, If you like the idea or concept, you can re-enforce the mentioned solicitude to MU.

What do you think about ?.

pdrito.

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#53 Post by ttuuxxx »

Hey Prit1

I had problems to get the memory applet to auto-start in earlier versions of lite icewm.
the problem was in the startup file. My latest release has had that fixed. It took days grrrrrrrr
So a good place to look for your bar to auto start would be there. In past versions I bet that was your problem also :)
Also I found mplay itunes skin heres a pic
http://www.mplayerhq.hu/images/skins/iTunes-01.jpg
and the skin link is
http://www.mplayerhq.hu/MPlayer/skins/i ... .1.tar.bz2
but of course you'll need mplayer as the default media player :)
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#54 Post by prit1 »

@pdrito: Thanks for the suggestion. Let me see what I can do.

@Ttuuxxx: I will definitely add the latest lite icewm and try using startup for the wbar and see if that works.

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#55 Post by WhoDo »

prit1 wrote:How can I make wbar appear automatically? I tried the adding it to the startup script and would not work. We have to click on the desktop atleast once for wbar to appear.
Add it to .xinitrc in /root just before the exec $CURRENTWM section. I have it there and it starts first time, every time. Here is my code line:

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# Start wbar application launcher
sleep 3 && wbar -above-desk -pos top -balfa 0 -zoomf 1.8 &
Hope that helps
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Macpup remove topbar

#56 Post by Django »

Hi prit1,

I like your Macpup verry much.
I was wondering if there is a simple way to disable the topbar.
Making it look more simple would be even better for my taste.
Wy bother with a topbar if you have a mouse menu.

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#57 Post by prit1 »

@Django: The top bar is where the windows get minimized to and you can restore them from there. If you disable this, you will need to change the Rox options so that the windows get minimized to the desktop. I personally did not like the look and feel when the windows get minimized to the desktop.

On my machine, the version I use frequently has a taskbar at the bottom that is set to auto hide (to make it look clean) and the wbar goes on top. And I have set the windows so that they never overlap the wbar. This gives a very clean look and is more productive. But this does not look like the Mac. So can't be used with Macpup.

Am glad you like this version.

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#58 Post by Django »

Thanks for the info.
Here's my xp x desktop.
Rocket launcher and smoothstripes!
Looking for the same look with puppy.
You come close. Keep up the good work.
Hiding the taskbar gives me an error (taskbar.cfg)by the way.
Anyway I thank you for your puppy. :lol:
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#59 Post by prit1 »

@Django: Good screenshots. I like them. I have tried Rocket launcher in the past. Maybe I should give it another try to make it look like yours. But I use Puppy most of the time. Need to ask me wife if she likes this look. :)

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#60 Post by Django »

Hey I like puppy linux more than Windows. Don't get me wrong.
It's just the osx look I'm after.
I need windows for my work as a website builder in Flash.
But for the rest I prefer Linux.
I have 4 pentium 4 pc's and 4 pentium 3 machines. Only on one is Windows.
The rest have all linux. I'm trying out every distribution I encounter and so far puppy is the winner.
The dock concept is so cool. If I could have the same look without any other ugly taskbar on my desktop in puppy I would say goodbey to windows forever.
Wy not Mac? Well the platform of mac is like sitting on a deserted island.
I've used them for quit a few years. I still own a few macs (no high end machines) But Mac software is harder to get and more limited.
I can dismantel a pc and fix it when it is broken.
With Mac it's a different ballgame. The smallest parts have absurt prices.
So a pc with linux is the way to go.
The only thing I like about mac is the osx desktop.
It's getting close but not yet
Yep I think that soon I will have my ultimate lowcost interface because that's what a computer is all about. I thank you.
If there was a Flash professional version for linux than I would be the happiest man alive.

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