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MU


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PostPosted: Wed 05 Mar 2008, 03:12    Post subject:  

to get teenpup, type this in a console:

Code:
cd /to_the_folder_where_to_download
wget -c --referer=http://puppyisos.org http://puppyisos.org/isos/2008-01-to-06/pfiles/TEENpup2008.iso



Of course you must use an existing folder with 530 MB free space as "to_the_folder_where_to_download" Exclamation

To resume a download:
If you have to interrupt, or the download blocks for a long time, you can hit CTRL-C
You then can resume the partially finished download by typing the same commands again Exclamation

To check if all is ok:
Then check the checksum:

Code:
cd /to_the_folder_where_to_download
md5sum TEENpup2008.iso


This will print a number after some seconds.
It must be: a267e4ead37f04c46362709d023c5bba
If it is different, your download is broken.

Problems:
If you just get a iso that is very small (some byte), open it in leafpad.
Most likely then the bandwidth-limit of my hoster is reached.
It will contain an errortext then.
Then you can try it again at 3.00 a.m. central european time (Berlin).

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john biles


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PostPosted: Wed 05 Mar 2008, 03:50    Post subject:  

Hello Everyone,
I've been informed by Caneri who hosts puppylinux.ca that you can now download TEENpup2008 from his site.

Go to www.puppylinux.ca/teenpup to download.

Softpedia have setup a page to download TEENpup2008 but the download link doesn't work. I am trying to get in touch with them to retify. I will post here when all is well at Softpedia.

Hello Koolie, I also live in Central Victoria, so we might be neighbours.
Maybe I should have gone to the same school as you, but I think most users will be able to forgive me for my bad grammer HA! HA!

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PostPosted: Wed 05 Mar 2008, 05:18    Post subject:  

John,

I downloaded the TeenPup. Looks great. So many applications.

I was trying to play one of my favorite video streams. It does not work in Gxine, Mplayer and in VLC, the video is not good.

Here is the stream.

http://media.tbn.org/wmedia-live/tbn/10200/300_tbn-the_smile_of_a_child_051222.asx?endtime=02:00:00

Any ideas?

Thanks,
Prit
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PostPosted: Wed 05 Mar 2008, 05:33    Post subject:  

Hello prit1,
I'm at work at the moment and will try the link when I get home.
One question, do this link work in any other Puppy version or another Linux Distro like SuSe for example?

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PostPosted: Wed 05 Mar 2008, 06:15    Post subject:  

Here's a little trick you can do in TEENpup 2008,
If you open Konqueror File Manager and click on a Dotpup package, Konqueror will let you look inside without installing the package.
This is very handy when you want to add, modify or take something out.

If you want to open and view Powerpoint docs, TEENpup 2008 comes with a viewer built in.

Seamonkey now comes with lots of Plugins to make life easier and is now version 1.1.8

I look forward to your thoughts on this release of TEENpup good and bad Very Happy

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Sage

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PostPosted: Wed 05 Mar 2008, 06:28    Post subject:  

You are certainly correct that an apostrophe is wrong, koolie, but I'm not too sure about handling that 's' ; Gowers is equally and, unusually, less than clear. Photos has to be correct, too. CD and MP3 are not strictly words, though. One way to treat them is to leave a space, viz: CD s . It's a form of shorthand so the traditional rules don't apply. More irksome are the guys who haven't twigged that Forum contributions need not conform to a character count. Text-speak is not only unnecessary but can lead to confusion and misunderstanding. Just the sort of thing moderators might stamp on.

Otherwise, TeenPup is beginning to mimic the offerings of Beelzebub. Far too long in arriving, too much hype! Let's hope it doesn't suffer the same 'features'?! By the time you reduce the .iso size to ~350Mb it might even become a competitor to Wolvix, Nimblex and a plethora of other worthy contenders....
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PostPosted: Wed 05 Mar 2008, 07:16    Post subject:  

Good old Sage, enough said.
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PostPosted: Wed 05 Mar 2008, 07:47    Post subject:  

Have updated the wiki news Smile

Managed to get the printer working (I used the wizard) but there seems to be an easier way using the KDE system. Smile

I was running from CD and I think the whole ISO went into ram . . . as the memory usage seemed to give erratic results. At first programs were slow then fast, then slow to load.
Be interested how others get on.
I have 512MB of Ram. Could it be the squash file technology?

Teenpup looks great.
Look at all those program - all there and ready to use . . .

Teenpup may have started for teenagers but I think it is great for adults.
(AdultPup anyone?)

Some important considerations:
John has offered development and support for this puplet
I am sure his long term plans will also ensure a great experience
for the mature teen

Update
John mentions at least 512MB of ram required
I think this is the key
I tried it on a 196MB laptop running from CD and it was too slow
for me to use

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PostPosted: Wed 05 Mar 2008, 09:13    Post subject:  

Hello Everyone,
Softpedia's link is now working, Download TEENpup2008 from here. http://linux.softpedia.com/get/System/Operating-Systems/Linux-Distributions/TeenPup-31563.shtml#

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PostPosted: Wed 05 Mar 2008, 10:05    Post subject:  

Hello prit1,
I tried your link and some videos played (see screenshot) while others didn't.
With the mms being a windows format, some feeds work and some don't. Not much I can do about it. I spend some time on this and even the large Linux distro's don't seem to have an answer for it either.
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PostPosted: Wed 05 Mar 2008, 11:04    Post subject:  

is possible start TeenPup as live Cd? and how?
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PostPosted: Wed 05 Mar 2008, 11:15    Post subject:  

john biles wrote:
Hello prit1,
I tried your link and some videos played (see screenshot) while others didn't.
With the mms being a windows format, some feeds work and some don't. Not much I can do about it. I spend some time on this and even the large Linux distro's don't seem to have an answer for it either.


John,

Thanks for looking into this.

BUT ... I always play this video stream in Puppy 2.16, Puppy 2.17.1, Puppy 2.15CE, FireHydrant, Muppy - NO Problems at all. Plays all the videos without interruption.

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PostPosted: Wed 05 Mar 2008, 11:34    Post subject:  

Hi; I'm downloading as I type this and looking forward to trying it out. I'm most eager to try gtkpod to see if I can connect my iPod successfully. I read recently in another forum (following a recent upgrade) about Apple's DRM making the "database" of content appear invisible, so this will be very interesting.

One general question about hosting iso files. Is there a policy among those who host ('caneri' and 'MU' and others) about filing them as metalinks and/or torrents? This would appear to help with bandwidth issues and to share out the load (I'm at work with a corporate T2 line and while I've been typing it's got to 5% downloaded with almost 2 hrs to go - presumably it's caneri's service which is throttled) as well as speed up the service for downloaders. Is there a downside which non-teckies (like me) cannot see? Or is it a case that they simply host whatever they are given?

If the latter is true then it might be prudent amongst the hosters to establish a policy.

PS. Damn! "The connection with the server was reset". I'll try at home with wget - currently forced to use The Devil's Own OS and Browser. Twisted Evil

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PostPosted: Wed 05 Mar 2008, 11:44    Post subject:  

john biles wrote:
Good old Sage, enough said.

Hear hear!

Has 'Sage' been officially awarded the title of 'Puppy's very own "Grumpy Old Man" ' yet? If not I'd like to propose it. Wink
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PostPosted: Wed 05 Mar 2008, 13:13    Post subject:  

In my day, it'd be the 'slipper' and no tea for such insolence!

OK, so there are a number of curious 'features' which I don't have time to outline tonight, but one that stood out was the message that my NIC hadn't been found (SiS900 - almost as ubiquitous as RTL8100-series). It had, though, and it was working.
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