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#21 Post by friedsonjm »

BUG REPORT: Installing decom98 from winetools does not appear to be working properly, will be fixed in the next release. jf

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#22 Post by Roger Hunter »

Ok, I figured it was something like that.

Nice distro anyway.

Roger

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#23 Post by Tui »

Hi Friedsonjm,
I did a D/L of version RC5 via xwget and had a good
burn to cd. All that I have tested so far is going ok, even
the latest version of xgxine 0.5.11, and yes it goes to FULL SCREEN !!

I am not sure how to tell what the diff between versions as the
HELP talks about v3.01 and nothing about pcpuppyos -rc5? With
so many versions of puppy around how does one keep track?

The problem I have found is that the fonts used in MENU and
sub MENU is very hard to read, I would like to change the style
and size of font used, where do I find the files with these fonts ?

I have tried the following screen res 640x480, 800x600,
1024x768 and 1280x1024 (I need times 5 reading glasses for
this one)
The best font that I have seen is in ver 2.14 and 2.15 and I have tested
over the above range of res' It looks good and clear.

Please advise what files I need to change.

Cheers Tui

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#24 Post by Sit Heel Speak »

pcPuppyOS on the Intel Classmate, booted from USB stick. Skype, Firefox, and the Gimp all work; awaiting technical data from Intel to get Oxygen Office's fonting to work right. A wonderful machine for people with hands one-quarter the size of mine. Perhaps this time next year every ten-year-old will carry one. The actual screen ought to be an inch larger in every direction but is clear and sharp, I hope it doesn't get degraded by resizing here.
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#25 Post by Sit Heel Speak »

EEhhhh, it got degraded. Let me try again:
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#26 Post by Sit Heel Speak »

Tui wrote:The problem I have found is that the fonts used in MENU and sub MENU is very hard to read, I would like to change the style
and size of font used, where do I find the files with these fonts?
It's hard to beat the look of WhoDo's EZPup, correctly tweaked...

http://i25.tinypic.com/28alr42.png

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#27 Post by jamesbond »

Excellent work. Planning to use this to update 2.15CE in my "recovery partition" because of the additional interesting applications - VPN clients etc.

I tested this on Toshiba Tecra A6 with Core Duo CPU, 2 GB RAM - boots beautifully, xorg runs straight away. Haven't really tested the VPN client though, will probably test it later.

Three request:
1. Can upgrade the ntfs-3g? 1.417 is very aged and doesn't handle large files very well ...
2. Can I have mrxvt installed? It's just a small addition but very useful.
3. Am not sure of the size of partimage, but if you can get it installed, it will be super useful.

Question:
4. The standard puppy pfix=ram means a) runs totally in ram, and b) don't use any existing save-file. What is the behaviour of pfix=noram? Will it use existing savefile or not?

While testing, I'd like to run with pfix=noram BUT don't use my existing savefile (which belongs to 2.15CE) - what is the pfix parameter to use?

Of course later on when everything is fine I'd like to use the savefile.

Thanks !

EDIT: corrected typo & clarify question 4.
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#28 Post by friedsonjm »

Tui wrote:Hi Friedsonjm,

The problem I have found is that the fonts used in MENU and
sub MENU is very hard to read, I would like to change the style
and size of font used, where do I find the files with these fonts ?

Cheers Tui
Per Jeremy:

To modify fonts in the menu, task-bar, and title-bar, you need to edit
the "default.theme" file for the theme IceWM is using. The default is
/root/.icewm/themes/Fbx/default.theme. Just find any entries that
have "font" in them.

jf

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#29 Post by friedsonjm »

jamesbond wrote: Three request:
1. Can upgrade the ntfs-3g? 1.417 is very aged and doesn't handle large files very well ...
2. Can I have mrxvt installed? It's just a small addition but very useful.
3. Am not sure of the size of partimage, but if you can get it installed, it will be super useful.

Question:
4. The standard puppy pfix=ram means a) runs totally in ram, and b) don't use any existing save-file. What is the behaviour of pfix=noram? Will it use existing savefile or not?

While testing, I'd like to run with pfix=noram BUT don't use my existing savefile (which belongs to 2.15CE) - what is the pfix parameter to use?
Per Jeremy:

pfix=noram prevents pup_301.sfs from being copied into ram (instead it
is mounted from whatever it's on, such as the harddrive or the CD).
It doesn't affect anything else. This is the same as what Barry added
for Dingo and 3.02. You can use both noram and ram at the same time
like this: pfix=ram,noram. That will prevent the save file from
loading and also cause the pup_301.sfs file to be mounted from
whatever media it's on. I know the naming isn't intuitive. I was
thinking about changing it, but then Barry added the same feature to
Dingo using the 'noram' string, so I kept it to reduce confusion.

I'll try to look into partview, mrxvt, and ntfs-3g sometime, but
things have gotten really busy lately so I can't make any guarantees.
I definitely won't be doing anything until Monday at the earliest.

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#30 Post by friedsonjm »

I had not heard of partimage, so I looked it up; some very clever features here:

http://www.partimage.org/Main_Page
Description: Partimage is a Linux utility which saves partitions having a supported filesystem to an image file. Most Linux and Windows filesystems are supported. The image file can be compressed with the gzip / bzip2 programs to save disk space, and they can be splitted into multiple files to be copied on CDs / DVDs, ... Partitions can also be saved across the network since version 0.6.0 using the partimage network support, or using Samba / NFS....

Partimage will only copy data from the used portions of the partition. For speed and efficiency, free blocks are not written to the image file. This is unlike the 'dd' command, which also copies empty blocks. Partimage also works for large, very full partitions. For example, a full 1 GB partition can be compressed with gzip down to 400MB.

This is very useful to save partitions to an image in some cases:

* First you can restore your linux partition if there is a problem (virus, file system errors, manipulation error). When you have a problem, you just have to restore the partition, and after 10 minutes, you have the original partition. You can write the image to a CD-R if you don't want the image to use hard-disk space.
* This utility can be used to install many identical computers. For example, if you buy 50 PCs, with the same hardware, and you want to install the same linux systems on all 50 PCs, you will save a lot of time. Indeed, you just have to install on the first PC and create an image from it. For the 49 others, you can use the image file and Partition Image's restore function.

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#31 Post by jamesbond »

Thanks john. Yeah the partimage is interesting, I'm using it to backup my windows partition as well as full-install linux partitions.

More feedbacks, based on my random testing.

1. Request for Sydney timezone (for now I chose Guam - same GMT+10 as syd)
2. Clam AV update doesn't work behind proxy.
3. Gslapt doesn't work behind proxy.
(Perhaps there is a global proxy settings here that we can use?)

4. Hardinfo for system information display (instead of Xproc)
5. You may want to change the default pdf reader to something else - the gs reader is well - aged (and doesn't work on some pdfs) - and we can't select text for cut / paste. Perhaps epdfview (I haven't used it myself though).
6. CUPS can't print to windows printer. Every time I tried I failed with error message (in the error_log) "Can't load /etc/samba/smb.conf - run testparm to debug it", and the webpage says "/usr/lib/cups/backend/smb failed". I ran testparm, nothing wrong with it. I ran smbspool manually as in

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# DEVICE_URI="smb://user:topsecret@GROUP/SOMEPC/Canon"
# export DEVICE_URI
# echo something | smbspool 99 me test 1 ""
And it worked, so smbspool doesn't seem to be the problem. And /usr/lib/cups/backend/smb is symlinked to /usr/bin/smbspool correctly.

EDIT:
7. Tried mounting a Windows share from puppy with Linneighbourhood. Failed with error message: cli_negprot: SMB signing is mandatory and we have disabled it.
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Gxine Crash Problem

#32 Post by TheKid7 »

When I tried to open the following streaming audio link (asx file) Gxine appeared to quickly crash and I was at a Login Prompt. I am a Newbie to Linux so I am only reporting a possible "bug". Windows XP does not have any issues with this streaming audio file.

Streaming Audio Link:
http://streamstart.x9tech.com/fbn.asx

Web Page with the streaming audio link ("Play" Button):
http://www.fbnradio.com/

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Re: Gxine Crash Problem

#33 Post by friedsonjm »

TheKid7 wrote:When I tried to open the following streaming audio link (asx file) Gxine appeared to quickly crash and I was at a Login Prompt. I am a Newbie to Linux so I am only reporting a possible "bug". Windows XP does not have any issues with this streaming audio file.

Streaming Audio Link:
http://streamstart.x9tech.com/fbn.asx

Web Page with the streaming audio link ("Play" Button):
http://www.fbnradio.com/
Well, for what its worth, its a repeatable bud; blew up on me too. jf

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#34 Post by happyhippo »

some problems

first,after a harddisk install and boot up from hd i get after loading the kernel
expr syntax error.
but it boot up and i get into puppy.
next problem is the network

mostly my dell cpx with pcmcia network card the card is found
now only wifi cards show up to chose.

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#35 Post by friedsonjm »

happyhippo wrote: first,after a harddisk install and boot up from hd i get after loading the kernel
expr syntax error.
I am getting this too, although I have been 'playing around' with turning Pebble on and off, which may have something to do with it.

I've had no problems at all with network, wired or wireless...

jf

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I ran the DVD then saved to a C.F in an IDE addapter, looked at the w.w.web,, then closed down. upon rebooting all went well until i tried to use the PPPoE connection when i clicked on start a message cam up saying:-"security message root is not owned by root" root is my login name. I could not get passed this point. so i shut down and removed the C.F Card then rebooted and started again all went well so i put the C.F card in an USB addapter, deleted the files, then saved to this on closing now i can re boot with no problem. had i a bug or a virus??????????????????????? Michael. :roll:

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#37 Post by Pizzasgood »

I've been really swamped lately; this is the first time I've made it to the forum in over a week. I just went through and added a bunch of stuff to my to-do list now, and I'll try to get started on some of this tonight (won't get much done though). Tomorrow I'll hopefully have time to get some more sorted out. I only have one class on Thursday, but I need to study for my test on Friday and to do some homework for next week in advance since I'll be away over the weekend (but will take my laptop so I can work on this a little then too).

@eccentric: sounds like the permissions on /root might have gotten messed up. Probably just a glitch.
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#38 Post by jamesbond »

Don't be too hard on yourself.

Well to be fair, the problems I listed above also happens in other puppies, but I never experienced that before because I don't normally use puppy for work environment (=only for recovery purposes). But since pcPuppyOS is "targeted for business users" - I decided to "throw the dog to the field" :P

Quoting my earlier post
1,3,4,5) - also happens for other puppies
2) is pcPuppyOS specific
6,7) probably happens on other puppies also

As for no 7), Google says this is a known problem, since "smbfs" doesn't support key signing. The solution is to use coax Linneighbourhood to use "cifs" (or use pnethood - supposedly the successor to Linnighbourhood) - but unfortunately "cifs" support doesn't seem to be compiled in kernel?

I have no idea on no 6 though.
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#39 Post by Pizzasgood »

So far today I have completed these items on my list:
fix pebble bug
upgrade to ntfs-3g-1.1004 (from dingo)
upgrade to ntfsprogs-2.0.0 (from dingo)
upgrade pctorrent to 1.4
add more harddrive devices
add mrxvt


I don't know anything about proxies. Shouldn't that be a Gslapt / ClamAV specific issue?
ClamAV website
Config files:
/usr/etc/freshclam.conf
/usr/etc/clamd.conf (the on_access and off_access files are just examples, you only have to edit them if you want to rename one to just clamd.conf. Note: on_access scanning seemed pretty slow and unstable to me)


I tried those audio links and they worked fine. Odd. Maybe they were streaming a different format when I tried than when you tried. Try running Gxine from the commandline and then using one of the menu options to open the stream. That way you might be able to catch any error messages it makes before dying. I'll try that myself over the weekend.


I'll also probably look at partimage and hardinfo over the weekend.


As for Cups and Samba, unless I do them tonight (and I probably won't) they'll probably have to wait until I get back so I can have access to my printer and computer. I can't test them on just my laptop (not willing to fiddle with my grandparents' machines). My professors have already claimed Monday and Tuesday evenings though. I think Wednesday should be fairly clear though.
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#40 Post by jamesbond »

Thanks, I will look at the clamav / gslapt sites then :oops:

Can I suggest you to use the latest ntfs-3g (1.2216 as of time of writing)
instead? :D
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