Puppy Linux Discussion Forum

jamesbond · Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 1540 Location: The Blue Marble

@NewCrest - in my earlier test with 2.16, it still have the same performance problem as 2.15CE. I'm sure the bloat in my compiled NTFS is due to my own foresight ...

@MU - Thanks, I tried, but still the same Shocked

@Rest of 2.14R team - Thanks !

Pizzasgood · Posted: Thu 07 Feb 2008, 14:37 Post subject:

Pizzasgood · Posted: Thu 07 Feb 2008, 21:16 Post subject:

In case you're interested in the syslinux modifications I mentioned above, I just uploaded them here:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=172777#172777

Something to be aware of if you use it: my version uses f2.msg rather than f2.

Also, if you don't use it, I should let you know that as far as I can tell you didn't modify the remaster script nor the mulitisession scripts to take in account for the f2 file you added.
/etc/rc.d/rc.shutdown
/usr/sbin/pupremaster.sh
/usr/sbin/savesession-dvd

It's an easy fix, just use find to locate where it copies the boot.msg file, and add a line for f2. All three of the scripts are about the same.

One other thing about 2.14R that I took a while to realize: I like the GTK theme, but it's hard to tell at a glance if a check box is checked or unchecked. It took forever before I realized why Seamonkey wouldn't just shut up when I tried checking my email Laughing

pakt · Joined: 04 Jun 2005 Posts: 1089 Location: Sweden

ecomoney · Posted: Sat 09 Feb 2008, 09:09 Post subject: Puppy CE

Hi guys

Just wanted to stop by and say thanks for bringing out a thoroughly tested puppy. Im looking forward to the updated drivers/NTFS support. The first CE alpha will not be going out without these enhancements.

Keep up the good work!!! Woof Woof

ecomoney · Posted: Sun 10 Feb 2008, 23:42 Post subject: Progress Report

Hi there, how is the progress going? Were looking to start the development of the CE edition based on this soon and release an alpha.

Pizzasgood · Posted: Wed 13 Feb 2008, 19:47 Post subject:

I found another bug the other day that I was going to mention, but then I forgot what it was... I noticed it again today though, so here it is:

In the /usr/sbin/puppyinstaller script, it gives you the option to mount an iso to get the pup_xxx.sfs file. This uses a loop device. Since it wasn't specified which, it will generally grab /dev/loop2. That's a problem later, because the part that mounts pup_xxx.sfs (line 1417) is hardcoded to use /dev/loop2. This would also be a problem if the user had something else mounted (like an old pup_save.2fs file). Changing:

jrb · Posted: Sat 16 Feb 2008, 19:11 Post subject:

Hi Dougal,
Love hotpup and pfix=blacklist. I've just done full install to my harddrive (twice) and FYI it won't recognize usb flash drives in any way: hotpup, mut, pmount, or command line. I've tried 5 different drives of various types and sizes. Works fine from liveCD however. It's also the first puppy edition that's recognized my mrv8k wireless card.

tempestuous · Joined: 10 Jun 2005 Posts: 4944 Location: Australia

jrb · Posted: Sun 17 Feb 2008, 23:22 Post subject:

Sorry tempestuous.
Sadly the mrv8k doesn't find my network. I have this machine wired in and when I saw mrv8k wireless indicated I assumed it was correct without trying it. When I scan it doesn't pick up my unencrypted network, which my laptop does. This is a trendnet tew421pc wireless card which I have only used with ndiswrapper.

More info on my harddrive install. I formatted the drive and then did full install. On the 1st boot I get full usb drive function. On 2nd, 3rd, etc. it disappears. Strangely enough after all this, I uninstalled Seamonkey and installed Opera9.5b-staticqt and then remastered the CD (had to manually replace pup_0R.sfs with pup_214R.sfs in pupremaster.sh) and the new CD is fully functional including usb drives.

joe-roberts · Joined: 18 Feb 2008 Posts: 3

I also noticed the detection and loading of the native mrv8k driver, great as I have been using ndiswrapper forever now. but it didn't work. the log indicates that it failed to load a firmware file.

I have located the firmware files in the zdrv file and plan to copy them into the appropriate location in my save file. But I haven't had a chance to try this yet. My puppy computer is very busy most of the time so I don't often have a chance to test new things. Thanks for a great puppy.

Puppy PC: Dell PIII 450 MHz cpu, 512 MB ram, 160GB hd. Backup Storage, Firewall, Router, Mail service etc. for a 5 PC network.

jrb · Posted: Mon 18 Feb 2008, 13:51 Post subject:

Inspried by joe roberts, I am attaching the /var/log/message.

tony · Joined: 14 Jan 2006 Posts: 265 Location: Montreal.ca

Hi,

Using teenpup which is based on 214 I get no problems. I can connect with my Toshiba portage 4010 laptop (orinoco_cs) and my mainframe
(rt2500).

With 214R, again I have no trouble connecting with mainframe.

With laptop the orinoco_cs driver is not loaded at boot. If I load it with modprobe I still can't get wireless.

I have tried the drivers from teenpup with the same result.

Anyone know of a procedure I can use to remedy the situation ?

Regards Tony.

ecomoney · Posted: Mon 18 Feb 2008, 22:23 Post subject: router

Joe, I would be very interested in how you got puppy to run all of the network services you have, would be useful for the cybercafe

joe-roberts · Joined: 18 Feb 2008 Posts: 3

>Joe, I would be very interested in how you got puppy to run all of the network services you have, would be useful for the cybercafe

Ecomoney:
My setup is quite primitive, serves only 5 lightly used PCs, and not secure at all. I guess that’s why its performance is acceptable. Everything I use I found in this forum so the credit belongs to others here.

The setup is a DSL modem on eth0 for internet access. Local LAN is on wlan0 in Ad-Hoc mode. The 5 PCs connect to wlan0 rather than an access point appliance. The printer has its own wifi card (otherwise it would be installed on this PC too).

Router functionality consists of enabling packet forwarding and NAT in the kernel. The default route sends every packet not intended for a local LAN IP to the DSL modem which itself forwards them out to the internet.

The Backup Storage consists of a cron job that runs rsync against the home directory of each of the client PCs several times a day. I does not delete backup files so its not a mirror. The client PCs run rsync as a daemon so they share the work of determining the bits that update the backup.

Samba is configured to publicly share the whole 160GB FAT32 drive to the local LAN only (rejects anything from eth0). Puppy’s 1GB of files and swap are not shared.

Firewall is iptables with only a few rules, these I have picked up from several examples in the forums. I often fiddle with the rules as some program or other doesn’t work as expected. Because we don’t provide ANY services or access from the internet into the LAN (this is why it works for me) it can be kept very simple.

Mail services consists of the standard UNIX mail program providing POP3/SMTP to the LAN from local storage. Incoming mail is provided by “yahoopops”, script that periodically scrapes the configured Yahoo web mail accounts, a small program that reformats the mail headdress and drops the messages in the mail store directories. Another small program forwards messages from the outgoing directories to HotPop.com that provides me with SMTP out to the internet.

vncX11 allows me to monitor this PC without having to go down to the basement.

Because of this setup several things don’t work from the client PCs. For example I have IM working on only one PC, eventually I will figure out some dynamic firewall rule to get that to work from the other PCs too. Also torrents only work from the server. That’s OK to keep an eye on what is downloaded. We copy the torrent file to a designated directory and I add them to Transmission when I see fit. I used to have a script to do this but the server & DSL link was often overwhelmed by my son’s downloads.

That’s about it, I hope the description was of some use to you.

Puppy PC: Dell PIII 450 MHz cpu, 512 MB ram, 160GB hd. Backup Storage, Firewall, Router, Mail service etc. for a 5 PC network.