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Pup214R v1.01 uploaded
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Dougal
 Joined: 19 Oct 2005 Posts: 2505 Location: Hell more grotesque than any medieval woodcut |
Well yaf-splash is also ugly, so it can just be gxmessage, but the same thing. My idea was to actually open the tab for them and let them know (they'll learn to use tabs over time).
But didn't it run after giving that message? That message appears every time e2fsck is run on the pup_save, since when in the ramdisk we don't have /etc/mtab, but it still seems to run ok.
Yeah, I know that. It doesn't really matter -- it just tries to copy what isn't there. Barry tends to pipe all errors to /dev/null but I prefer to allow them to show, in case something real happens.
What about PMEDIA=idehd?
I find it really odd that you would have a problem with pfix=ram, since it should simply ignore all pup_save files! _________________ What's the ugliest part of your body? Some say your nose Some say your toes But I think it's your mind |
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HairyWill
 Joined: 26 May 2006 Posts: 2949 Location: Southampton, UK |
I have put in lines to sync,mount,df,umount, sync the pup_save before and after the resize they also support that no change is made to the filesystem, weird. line 935 of init has a check_status $? call after resize2fs surely this always results in a error being shown by check_status? There is also a check_status(0) call a couple of lines down. My guess is the first one shouldn't be there though it doesn't help me. [quote="Dougal"]What about PMEDIA=idehd?[quote]just tried that no help.
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HairyWill
Joined: 26 May 2006 Posts: 2949 Location: Southampton, UK |
KOWABUNGA After more hours than I would care to admit I've fixed my resize problem. I have recompiled e2fsprogs 1.40.5 and set the routine in resize2fs main.c which checks to see if the filesystem is mounted to ignore the result of the check. I have rebuilt pup_214.sfs with the modified resize2fs. One of the reasons I found this hard to spot was because the check_mount_point error being thrown by resize2fs was the same as the check_mount_point error from e2fsck. e2fsck ignores the error and repairs the filesystem anyway whilst resize2fs just exits Somewhere in all of this I also have a dodgy clock so most of the time the superblock last mount time is about 8 hours ahead. I have noticed this before and just confirmed this using e2fsdebug. hwclock and date both agree on the correct time. whew _________________ Will contribute: community website, screenshots, puplets, wiki, rss |
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MU
 Joined: 24 Aug 2005 Posts: 13642 Location: Karlsruhe, Germany |
Here is a replacement for yaf-splash: http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=25536 Mark |
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Pizzasgood
 Joined: 04 May 2005 Posts: 6270 Location: Knoxville, TN, USA |
I finally managed to bork my ancient (to me) save file last night. Rather than spend more hours trying to fix it, I decided to try 2.14R. So, initial impression: great stuff! The single biggest annoyance so far is that the Geany key-bindings are all different. Not hard for me to change back or anything, just annoying 
The lack of a desktop icon for Geany was also annoying, but I guess I can see why it would be omitted. Since I'm procrastinating over something (I forget what), I decided to look at the /usr/sbin/wag-profiles.sh script. I notice these lines (927,928):
I'm pretty sure that should be -lt 8 Also, back in December I had access to some WPA-capible equipment, and from what I could tell the line at 951:
I don't know a whole lot about WPA though, as I only messed with it for about a week. So maybe that line is important for some reason I don't see. Otherwise I like it so far, and I'll let you know about any bugs I rustle up. 
Now I just need to remember how I managed to configure everything last time. Usually I start fresh every couple months; this time it was six or seven months so I'm a bit rusty. _________________ Between depriving a man of one hour from his life and depriving him of his life there exists only a difference of degree. --Muad'Dib  |
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HairyWill
Joined: 26 May 2006 Posts: 2949 Location: Southampton, UK |
/usr/bin/qiv-command The messages associated with pressing keys 4-0 in qiv lack end of line terminators. This means that qiv does not show the last line of the message. Either remove the -n switch for echo or add \n. If you switch qiv to fullscreen mode and then press one of the bound number keys ie 2 for mtpaint, mtpaint starts hidden behind qiv and qiv locks up in fullscreen. This scenario is unlikely but its impact is severe as the only recovery I could make was to start another VT and kill qiv (presumably CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE would work as well to kill X) This can be overcome by binding the qiv command to something like 2) killall qiv ; defaultpaint "$2" killing qiv is not ideal but probably better than the risk of hanging it I wonder if there is any way to send qiv a signal to force it out of fullscreen? _________________ Will contribute: community website, screenshots, puplets, wiki, rss |
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Newcrest
Joined: 03 Mar 2007 Posts: 203 |
It does not appear that 2.14R has the improved NTFS support included in 2.16: NTFS support and general partition management improved. A swag of packages have been upgraded, namely FUSE, ntfs-3g, ntfsprogs. Puppy 2.14 and 2.15CE don't reliably write to NTFS partitions and cause corruption after a few writes have taken place. Shouldn't these changes be done in 2.14R especially if it is going to be used as a base for community editions? |
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jamesbond
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 1845 Location: The Blue Marble |
I suggested taking the latest ntfs-3g (and libfuse). The version in 2.15CE definitely has problems copying files over 1GB to NTFS partition - anything over 1.5GB is practically uncopyable. I have compiled it (1.1120 but now they have just released 1.2129 !!!) - but found out that for it to take effect, I need to update the version both in initrd.gz and in the pup_215.sfs. Unfortunately my static version is around ~630kb - unlike the original was around ~130K. _________________ Fatdog64, Slacko and Puppeee user. Puppy user since 2.13 |
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Newcrest
Joined: 03 Mar 2007 Posts: 203 |
It is not just files over 1GB that there is a problem with. After writing a few files of 100MB size the partition can become corrupted and further writes of any size larger than 1MB will become near impossible. Puppy 2.16 and newer does not have this problem and uses less cpu when writing as well. |
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Newcrest
Joined: 03 Mar 2007 Posts: 203 |
I just looked at the version in Puppy 2.16 and it is ~145K. Given that it works and does not have the hugely major problems that the version in 2.14/2.15CE has, would it not be a worthwhile compromise? |
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MU
Joined: 24 Aug 2005 Posts: 13642 Location: Karlsruhe, Germany |
Please try to strip binaries and libs. strip /usr/bin/TEST strip /usr/lib/TEST.so "strip" removes developers debug-messages, those are not needed in the public binaries. Mark |
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tempestuous
Joined: 10 Jun 2005 Posts: 5111 Location: Australia |
Be patient guys. Upgraded NTFS support for 214R is on the way. So, too, upgraded ALSA. Pizzasgood, Dougal has already noted those Network Wizard fixes for the next release. Expect upgraded wifi drivers, too. |
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Dougal
Joined: 19 Oct 2005 Posts: 2505 Location: Hell more grotesque than any medieval woodcut |
Oh my, you really went to a lot of trouble with this... I have a simpler solution that i intend to try: before running e2fsck/resize2fs I will just create /etc/mtab using /proc/mounts... should solve the problem.
8 hours ahead? When we're in the initial ramdisk the clock is not set, so we're always somewhere in 1970, so if you run e2fsck (or resize2fs) it sets the "last checked" date to that... When I added pfix=fsck I had that problem and tried setting the clock (and making sure it was set!) before running fsck, but for some reason it still said 1970! So I ended up moving the checks for all partitions other than the one with the pup_save to shutdown (also doesn't keep the user waiting). _________________ What's the ugliest part of your body? Some say your nose Some say your toes But I think it's your mind |
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Dougal
Joined: 19 Oct 2005 Posts: 2505 Location: Hell more grotesque than any medieval woodcut |
That's Enrico, not me... they changed to more "standard" keybindings. It took me a while to stop hitting Ctrl+Y and using F3...
All that has been fixed a while ago, we just haven't updated the iso yet (there's a service pack that's been "nearly ready" for more than a month..). _________________ What's the ugliest part of your body? Some say your nose Some say your toes But I think it's your mind |
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Dougal
Joined: 19 Oct 2005 Posts: 2505 Location: Hell more grotesque than any medieval woodcut |
Does that work at all? The way qiv-command works is that it runs as a sub-process of qiv and as a result you can't close qiv until you have closed the application that's running as a sub-process... It's odd that the app opens behind qiv. We need something more sophisticated than this, since you don't want to kill all qiv processes...
There probably is -- it has heaps of options and keybindings -- but the problem is that qiv will probably fill up the screen when viewing a huge image... _________________ What's the ugliest part of your body? Some say your nose Some say your toes But I think it's your mind |
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