Black screen: Asus nvida card

[moogman]

I just tried Puppy for the first time and everything went great without any interaction from me while it loaded. However after it has loaded I have no picture on the monitor, it is just black. I have a Asus nvida card in my computer. How do I try to fix this?

[MU]

Hi,

Nvidia-cards do not support the Vesa-modes properly.

Try this:
Exit X with CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE.

Edit the resolution:
mp /etc/videomode

enter this line (delete the old line)
0x0117 1024x768x16

Now try to start X with the comand "xwin".

If it still fails, you might have to install another Xserver with the free Nvidia-driver:
http://www.murga.org/~puppy/viewtopic.php?t=2303

The message describes too, how to do it on the comandline.

Mark

[moogman]

How do I do that since the disk is booting up on its on?

[MU]

I don't understand what you mean.
Do you mean you can't go online?

If yes, can you download the file with Windows or Linux to your harddrive?
Can you exit X in Puppy with the keys CTRL and ALT and BACKSPACE?

Mark

[moogman]

I don't understand what you mean.
Do you mean you can't go online?

If yes, can you download the file with Windows or Linux to your harddrive?
Can you exit X in Puppy with the keys CTRL and ALT and BACKSPACE?

Mark

No the ctrl alt and backspace does nothing it stays a black screen

[MU]

Ok, try this:

Download this file (15 MB):
http://noforum.de/dotpups/pup001-puppy105-xorg.zip

It includes Xorg, the reboot-patch, and will not start X when Puppy boots.


Extract it to where Puppy created the "pup001"-file (this overwrites the existing one).
You will need 256 MB free space.

Then boot your computer with Puppy.

Now you will see a message "xwin" not found, and nothing happens.

Hit "CTRL-C" to see the prompt.
Type
mp /etc/X11/xorg.conf

Search for
Driver "vesa"
(at the end of the file), and replace it with
Driver "nv"

Save and exit, then type "xwin2" to start X.
If it works, you can rename xwin2 to xwin, so that X will automatically start when you boot Puppy.

Mark

[darnitall]

I'm trying to get Chubby Puppy running. I get to the desktop but the resolution is way low and the icons on the task bar are not completely built . I have the following card; NVIDIA GeForce4 MX 440 with AGP8X.
Would the 'vesa' problem apply to this card too?
And would the posted solution be the cure?
Thanks, Dennis

[MU]

yes, might work.

The free nvidia-driver is told to be very stable, it just has no 3D-hardware-accelleration.

You can try it: make a backup of your old pup001 (pup001.backup) and install the Xorg-server with a new pup001.

If something goes wrong, delete the new pup001, and rename pup001.backup to pup001.

Mark

[moogman]

Ok, try this:

Download this file (15 MB):
http://noforum.de/dotpups/pup001-puppy105-xorg.zip

It includes Xorg, the reboot-patch, and will not start X when Puppy boots.


Extract it to where Puppy created the "pup001"-file (this overwrites the existing one).
You will need 256 MB free space.

Then boot your computer with Puppy.

Now you will see a message "xwin" not found, and nothing happens.

Hit "CTRL-C" to see the prompt.
Type
mp /etc/X11/xorg.conf

Search for
Driver "vesa"
(at the end of the file), and replace it with
Driver "nv"

Save and exit, then type "xwin2" to start X.
If it works, you can rename xwin2 to xwin, so that X will automatically start when you boot Puppy.

Mark

Mark,
I did this exactly as you said and when I type in the mp /etc/x11/xorg.conf it brings up the editer and there is nothing in there to edit. I search for vesa and nothing is there I go to end of the file and nothing is in there at all.

[MU]

mp /etc/X11/xorg.conf

Big X, Linux is case-sensitive.

Mark

[moogman]

Gottcha I will try it now.

[moogman]

That worked! Thanks now however my mouse will only go up and down. Is there a way to edit the file again to select a different type of mouse?

[MU]

Great

Yes, hit CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE to exit X.
This should work now?
Then edit xorg.conf again in mp.

What for a mouse do you have, usb or ps2?

Mark

[moogman]

It is a logitech wireless that has wireless key board. I had to unhook the keyboard and hook up a regular one. The mouse receiver has a usb connection to computer and a cord to the mouse connector on the computer. It was seeing it but I could only move it up and down. I may have not picked that I have a scroll wheel on it as well, I do not know if that would make it do that.

[MU]

I think, by default, I uncommented the mouse-entry, so a minimalistic driver is used.

Search for
### Identifier "Mouse1"

In this and the following lines, delete the "###" in the beginning.

This should activate a typical USB-Mouse.

Also try this:

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Section "InputDevice"
	Identifier	"Mouse1"
	Driver		"mouse"
	Option		"Protocol"		"ImPS/2"
	Option		"ZAxisMapping"	"4 5"
	Option		"Device"			"/dev/input/mice"
EndSection

If it does not work, google for "xorg.conf logitech wireless", and try out some configurations you find.

I have a "normal" logitech (non-wireless) attached with an Cable to USB, so I can't check it.

Maybe you also have to sync the mouse again, if it is a new computer?
I think these wireless mice have a button to syncronice the receiver, and if you don't syncronize, you get the effect you described.

Or does it work on the same Computer with Windows?

Mark.

[Guest]

Hi MU

I would like to know if you can give me a help on this
First question, will xorg allow me to change refresh rates?
I tryed to install your xorg file even not knowing the answer to my first answer but when i try to unzip the file i get a wryte error (disk full ?) message. This must be made with puppy installed on hard disk?
Thanks

[Guest]

I'm working with puppy live cd and a 256mb ext2 partition for puppy storage information

[MU]

yes, you can change refreshrates by setting individual values for the "sync"-values in the monitor-section of xorg.conf.

xorg needs 35 MB extracted, you might need more temporarily during installation.

Type
df -m
to see how much space you have left on /root, you should get something like this:
/dev/loop1 468 392 52 88% /root

It tells me, I have a pup001 (root) with 468 MB size.
392 MB (88%) are used, so I have 52 MB left.

If you don't have enough space, you must enlarge pup001, or use the pup001.zip I posted earlier in this thread.

Mark

[pedro]

Hi MU
It's me again but now i'm logged in. Thanks for your reply, your module works! I was doing things wrong, it was very easy to install your module. I set up xorgconf file for radeon and i added the horsync and vertrefresh settings that my monitor suports. Now i'm running puppy at 85hz, this helps a lot my eys. Thanks for your module.Before trying your module i tryed the sugestion in puppy faq to change refresh rate but one of the modules freezes puppy here. Can you give just a small help? Where do i change screen resolution.In the screen sections i see many modes but i don't know witch line to change. Thanks again
Pedro

[MU]

There are 2 parts of importance.

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Section "Screen"
    Identifier  "Screen 1"
    Device "Standard VGA"
    Monitor     "My Monitor"
    DefaultDepth 24

The last line "DeafaultDepth" determines, how many colors will be used (24 bit=16.7 mio colours).

So this computer uses 24 Bit.

The next lines show the resolutions for each Color Depth.
So search the one with "24":

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        Depth       24
        Modes       "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
        ViewPort    0 0
    EndSubsection

OR

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        Depth       24
        Modes       "800x600"
        ViewPort    0 0
    EndSubsection

The first example will use 1280x1024, and you can switch the resolution to the other ones listed there with "xvidtune" (see here: http://www.murga.org/%7Epuppy/viewtopic.php?t=2361 ) or with "+" and "-" on the numpad (the right part of your keyboard) together with CTRL or ALT or SHIFT (Don't remember, have a notebook without numpad).

The second example uses only one resolution.

Mark