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pcPuppyOS RC2 Posted 22 Jan 08
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friedsonjm

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PostPosted: Tue 22 Jan 2008, 06:42    Post subject:  pcPuppyOS RC2 Posted 22 Jan 08
Subject description: Updated WINE, JAVA, improved SAMBA
 

RC2 posted 22 Jan 08; Upgraded WINE, upgraded JAVA, SAMBA fixed for printer sharing.
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PostPosted: Tue 22 Jan 2008, 08:06    Post subject:  

Good luck to you and Jeremy (Pizzasgood) with this and the new web site.

A business orientated Puppy is very useful and welcome. Hopefully you will be able to retain a modular approach and a Puppy compatible core for the forseable future.

You seem to to be developing a core of happy users Smile

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friedsonjm

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PostPosted: Tue 22 Jan 2008, 09:46    Post subject:  

Lobster wrote:
Good luck to you and Jeremy (Pizzasgood) with this and the new web site.

A business orientated Puppy is very useful and welcome. Hopefully you will be able to retain a modular approach and a Puppy compatible core for the forseable future.

You seem to to be developing a core of happy users Smile


Thanks, Lobster! With this release, I think the system is pretty stable; I hope we will get a lot of downloads and feedback on RC2.
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Caneri

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PostPosted: Tue 22 Jan 2008, 10:14    Post subject:  

Hi guys,

I d/l and run your new version..posting from it now.

Looks good..thanks.

I may go with this pcPuppyOS for the local historical society as some things are automated for noobs. Wine and OO are what they will need.

Not much to say yet as it's my first run but first impressions are good.

xorg failed on my newer lappy with ATI Radeon Mobility X1600....but as I said this is a first test run and I'll dig in more later and let you know.

Thanks,
Eric

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PostPosted: Tue 22 Jan 2008, 12:59    Post subject:  

e are having a problem with Xorg and ATI cards. Fix is:

If in Xvesa already, first, us Setup-Xorg Video Wizard-Edit Xorg.conf
Look for Section 'Device' as shown below. Where the dri ver is listed as
Driver "vga" #card0driver
change to
Driver "ati" #card0driver
as shown below.

Section "Device"
### Available Driver options are:-
### Values: <i>: integer, <f>: float, <bool>: "True"/"False",
### <string>: "String", <freq>: "<f> Hz/kHz/MHz"
### [arg]: arg optional
#Option "ShadowFB" # [<bool>]
#Option "KGAUniversal" # [<bool>]
Identifier "Card0"
Driver "ati" #card0driver
VendorName "ATI Technologies Inc"
BoardName "Radeon Mobility M6 LY"
BusID "PCI:0:20:0"
EndSection


then, go to /usr/X11R7/bin/. Delete X. Right-click Xorg and choose "link". Link it to X. Use relative when it asks.

Or, from the command line:
rm /usr/X11R7/bin/X
ln -s /usr/X11R7/bin/Xorg /usr/X11R7/X

and restart X.

Have not figured out yet what causes this on a hard drive install, but at least we know how to correct it!

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NathanO

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PostPosted: Tue 22 Jan 2008, 13:44    Post subject:  

Decided to wait for this update to see what is happening with my HP Pavilion zv6000.

Downloaded RC2, tested on my tower,works good, just like pre Jan 15 did.

Moved CD to laptop. Did a cold boot. Went to xorg. Looked at xorg.cong like you said in other thread.

The Device section shows:

Identifier "Card0"
Driver "ati" #card0driver
VendorName "ATI Technologies Inc"
BordName "ATI Radeon XPRESS 200M 5955 (PCIE)"
BusID "PCI:1:5:0"

Screen section shows:

Identifier "Screen0"
Device "Card0"
Monitor "Monitor0"
DefaultDepth 24
Subsection "Display"
Depth 24
Modes "1280 x 800"

Monitor sections shows:

#DisplaySize 330 210 # mm
Identifier "Monitor0"
VendorName "AUO"
ModelName "1974"
HorzSync 30-48
VertRefresh 56-60
#UseModes "Modes0" #monitor0usemodes


The screen still does not work correct.

Put pre Jan 15 version in laptop. Did a cold boot.

All sections were the same. Screen worked correct.

Tried internet connection on pre Jan 15 version. Got on the Internet after one 'Auto DHCP'.

Cold booted to RC2 version. Went to xversa. Took 2 'Auto DHCP' tries to get on the internet.

xversa does not have the proper aspect ratio for the screen.

Tried the changes friedsomjm showed above, did not work. Tried both GUI and command prompt ways of dong the 'link'.

This is all from a 'Live CD', no save to SaveFile or Install of any type.

What can I do to help you trouble shoot this as I see Caneri had a similar problem with the ATI Radeon Mobility X1600.
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Caneri

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PostPosted: Tue 22 Jan 2008, 13:52    Post subject:  

Thanks,

tombh has had some success with ATI in wNOP...according to Thomas the 5th generation ATI cards are problematic..but as it's such a short test of pcPuppuyOS run I can't be more specific yet.

Myself I had to use the full ATI package from ATI to wobble.

Yes I'll plug in those edits next test run..thanks.

Eric

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PostPosted: Tue 22 Jan 2008, 18:06    Post subject:  

The problem friedsonjm is referring to is that on his system, Xorg detects his card correctly when running from LiveCD, but not when running from the harddrive (it sets the driver as 'vga' rather than 'ati'). The only remotely useful thing I've been able to glean about it is that if he uses the Xorg -configure command, it lists the available modules in a different order.

I haven't had any issues with this at all on both my laptop and my desktop, both of which use ATI cards (in fact, the card in my lappy is very similar to his).

So I don't know what the deal with that is.



This is different from what NathanO is experiencing. Aparently I messed something up, but I have no idea what. So lets investigate. I'll need the /var/log/Xorg.0.log files from the old iso after a successful boot, and from the new one after an unsuccessful attempt (mount a drive and copy it over, then reboot with the new iso to post it).

Since those are probably going to be pretty long (the successful one will be anyways), you might want to post them as attachments.

Another thing that might help is if you attach both /etc/X11/xorg.conf files, unless they're identical.

The /var/log/messages files wouldn't hurt either, but probably won't help much.

You could put all that in a tarball to avoid posting six attachments. Just make sure I can tell which ones are which (simple method is put them in separate directories in the tarball, that way you don't have to fiddle with renaming them all).

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NathanO

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PostPosted: Tue 22 Jan 2008, 19:26    Post subject:  

I have attached a tar with two folders (there is a duplicate of one, I do not know why).

Both were from cold boots. The RC2 was with a try at xorg, then going to xversa to get the files on to the pen drive.
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Caneri

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PostPosted: Tue 22 Jan 2008, 19:51    Post subject:  

ok,

This is from a live cd boot with no pup_save with puppy pfix=nosplash,ram.

I had to go to xvesa...xorg is no go for me.

Usb install is a no go yet...the screen just blanks and I wait for a long time then a three finger reboot...dunno..more tries coming..I forgot the log...next post

Eric
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PostPosted: Tue 22 Jan 2008, 19:54    Post subject:  

oops..sorry 'bout that.

var/log this time. This is as much as I can get so far.

EDIT: I also had probs with wNOP v2 on this lappy with the X1600 if that is anything you can use.

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PostPosted: Tue 22 Jan 2008, 20:10    Post subject:  

Pizzasgood,

Would it help if Caneri and I got on line with you in one of the two Puppy chat rooms to do some troubleshooting? Since I have two computers I could be on line with the tower while we tried different things on the laptop.

I will be here until about midnight SA, TX time, be here Wed thru about 4 PM then back in the evening. Fri, Sat, Sun I have a model train show I am working with our Large Scale Club, but would be here once more early nest week.
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PostPosted: Tue 22 Jan 2008, 20:25    Post subject:  

ok..ran a test on an ATI All-in Wonder 9800 Pro...with Asus A8V Deluxe mobo..1gb ram etc.

xorg crashes then I did a three finger reboot...and the xorgwizard completes...hmmm

A problem is this machine is totally offline never to touch the internet..and in another room...so sneaker net will be used to get a xorg.conf.

I have to wait as the room is in use..but I'll get a tar soon...

EDIT: I'm trying to get xorg.conf out of this Asus...I hope they don't boot me out for interrupting their room activities..lol..brb

Eric

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PostPosted: Tue 22 Jan 2008, 20:30    Post subject:  

Maybe the reason for strange behaviour lies in xorg --configure. This command likes to crash and it might depend on the order of modules in the file system whether the needed module is checked or not. (It will not be checked if a module checked earlier has caused a crash.)

But even more strange: a module might cause a crash in xorg --configure but work nonetheless! That's the reason I wrote a new Xwizard (see http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?search_id=477760145&t=23468) that does not call xorg for checking.
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PostPosted: Tue 22 Jan 2008, 20:44    Post subject:  

Well it may not make any sense but I had no joy in xorgwizard on the 9800 Pro and had to go to xvesa....but still got a file for you to look at...xorg.conf.

Now if I knew what I was doing it might help...sheesh.

I'm banished from the other room now..lol

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